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    Of the three archfiends which one is the demon, devil, and daemon?
    I know they all have names and different eye colors, but which one is which?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowscale View Post
    Of the three archfiends which one is the demon, devil, and daemon?
    I know they all have names and different eye colors, but which one is which?
    While it isn't necessarily explicitly spelled out (and might be a fan theory), it's worth noting that the first three letters of their names are LE, CE, and NE. These are also the alignment codes that apply to the devils, demons, and daemons in D&D cosmology.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knaight View Post
    While it isn't necessarily explicitly spelled out (and might be a fan theory), it's worth noting that the first three letters of their names are LE, CE, and NE. These are also the alignment codes that apply to the devils, demons, and daemons in D&D cosmology.
    It should be noted however that Sabine is working for Director Lee. As a Demon, that makes her Chaotic Evil (although Rich admittedly doesn't buy into the "always X alignment" thing D&D likes to do).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keltest View Post
    It should be noted however that Sabine is working for Director Lee. As a Demon, that makes her Chaotic Evil (although Rich admittedly doesn't buy into the "always X alignment" thing D&D likes to do).
    Was Lee the one Tiamat got pissed at? That'd confirm him as Lawful Evil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowscale View Post
    Was Lee the one Tiamat got pissed at? That'd confirm him as Lawful Evil.
    How do you figure?
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    The commentary in DStP confirms that Lee (devil) is the yellow fiend, Nero (daemon) is the purple fiend, and Cedric (demon) is the orange fiend. The last is the easiest to remember because Rich explicitly states that 640 was partially a joke about a demon having gone to college with a couple of devils.
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    The Giant has explicitly said that Lee is the devil, Nero the daemon and Cedrik the Demon. Yes, Lee has a succubus under him. Yes, Cedrik went to school with devils (Blue and Sun, to be specific).

    They're all interchangeable in terms of dialogue and actions anyway.

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    Just for the lulz, Cedric is confirmed orange in-comic - "Cedric springs the traps," we're told, and we see Cedric springing the trap.

    The college buddies joke, while not confirmation, very strongly hints that Cedric is Demon. Or Devil, if you try to read it straight. Pretty much knocks out Daemon, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keltest View Post
    It should be noted however that Sabine is working for Director Lee. As a Demon, that makes her Chaotic Evil (although Rich admittedly doesn't buy into the "always X alignment" thing D&D likes to do).
    He's suggested that supernatural beings could be an exception, and I would expect fiends to be an example of what he's thinking of there.

    Considering that the IFCC is interested in cooperation amongst the different fiendish races, I think it would be fitting to have a demon working for a devil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ti'esar View Post
    The commentary in DStP confirms that Lee (devil) is the yellow fiend, Nero (daemon) is the purple fiend, and Cedric (demon) is the orange fiend. The last is the easiest to remember because Rich explicitly states that 640 was partially a joke about a demon having gone to college with a couple of devils.
    Am I missing something here? What's so hilarious about a demon at university with devils? And how does said demon getting drunk by placebo impact the comedic value of this situation?
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    There are laser guns in the DMG, brain-eating green aliens in the MM, and the PHB has a whole character archetype built around making deal with cthulhu to get magic lasers.

    I don't think lightsabers are much of a stretch here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asorel View Post
    Am I missing something here? What's so hilarious about a demon at university with devils? And how does said demon getting drunk by placebo impact the comedic value of this situation?
    Demons and devils have an eternal war between them. You thus would not expect a demon to go to a devil college. From this apparent absurdity, comedy is derived. The level of hilarity is then left to the reader.

    Second law of comedy. As explanation increases, hilarity decreases.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DStP Commentary
    For the record, the devil is Lee (yellow), the daemon is Nero (purple), and the demon is orange (Cedrik).
    The Giant does go on to say that they all act very similarly, so in a way which one is which doesn't really matter. In fact, in most cases any of them could say each other's dialogue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by asorel View Post
    Am I missing something here? What's so hilarious about a demon at university with devils? And how does said demon getting drunk by placebo impact the comedic value of this situation?
    The joke is about American college sports team names. He's partying with one of the Duke University Blue Devils and one of the Arizona State Sun Devils.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay R View Post
    The joke is about American college sports team names. He's partying with one of the Duke University Blue Devils and one of the Arizona State Sun Devils.
    Ah, that makes sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slipperychicken View Post
    There are laser guns in the DMG, brain-eating green aliens in the MM, and the PHB has a whole character archetype built around making deal with cthulhu to get magic lasers.

    I don't think lightsabers are much of a stretch here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay R View Post
    The joke is about American college sports team names. He's partying with one of the Duke University Blue Devils and one of the Arizona State Sun Devils.
    I wonder if he went to Wake Forest? (They're the Demon Deacons for you unAmericans.)
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