What's the one book you wish you HADN'T bought?

[kalasulmar]

This is true. Unfortunately, whatever else it may have been (and I personally like it a lot), 9 Swords was primarily Wizards' way of playtesting a bunch of ideas they wanted to use for 4E while also making money. They were never going to support it because any success it had was just going to usher in 4E that much quicker.

This. TOB reads to me as 4e Lite. If I wanted 4e, I would play 4e.

[Just to Browse]

This. TOB reads to me as 4e Lite. If I wanted 4e, I would play 4e.

It's more like vice versa. Lots of 4e abilities felt like ToB lite. If I wanted to play 4e, I would go play ToB.

[Extra Anchovies]

My ears perked up when I saw people mention that the Mini Handbook had mass combat, cause I need one (well, my group does--I'm not the DM ), but sad to hear that its not a good system

Have you ever played the D&D miniatures game? Yeah, it's rules for turning your wonderful tabletop RPG into... that.

[Petrocorus]

The what? Is that a paladin acf from CoV or something?

I knew you were going to says something like this.

The mint is the place a book is minted, and mint condition means it is in condition equal to being fresh off the plate.

I was very confused when i saw it on the Paizo website. And because non-mint prices are below the PDF versions' prices, i thought it was some king of unmarked PDF, or some kind of premium edition PDF.

Maybe by being a useful party member? Heh.

Naw, I'd choose coffee.

Lies and slander. That books is absolute gold! How else am I supposed to fill up my inventory with "just in case" items? How else would my gnome bard have been able to make coffee for the party and thereby prove that he was useful?

All Hail the Holy Coffee. The greatest beverage that ever was or will be.
Seriously, isn't there a spell for coffee? Create Food and Water seems limited.

On a completely unrelated note, Siuis. I see several people like Fax and you who have the same kind of square profile picture, with the same kind of art. Where is this from?

[Susano-wo]

Have you ever played the D&D miniatures game? Yeah, it's rules for turning your wonderful tabletop RPG into... that.

I though the mini game was squad based combat using basically D&D rules, with some simplifications for ease of play. What I'm talking about is Army vs Army combat

[Kelb_Panthera]

Lies and slander. That books is absolute gold! How else am I supposed to fill up my inventory with "just in case" items? How else would my gnome bard have been able to make coffee for the party and thereby prove that he was useful?

Could not agree more. Spider poles, portable crane, the hang glider, all kinds of great stuff in there. It's got the rules for beer for chris' sakes. How could you dislike the book that has the rules for beer. and coffee. Beer and coffee, mmmmmm.

[Extra Anchovies]

On a completely unrelated note, Siuis. I see several people like Fax and you who have the same kind of square profile picture, with the same kind of art. Where is this from?

It's from the mobile game Puzzle and Dragons. Here's a GitP thread devoted to it.

[Arbane]

I actually like the idea of different disciplines working off of different stats, though six is a bit much. Hard to rationalize casting off of DEX or STR

Spoken like someone who's never seen Fullmetal Alchemist or this guy.

[Susano-wo]

Very familiar with FMA, but Psionics is very much not Alchemy (Armstrong's ability is more akin to ahving a magic item on your fists )
And yeah Muscle Wizard is funny.

[Telok]

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Please, for the love of all that is good and just in the world, tell me that this actually exists somewhere

Ask and ye shall receive.

Here.

That's the Official D&D Update from the official WotC errata page (archived).

[Threadnaught]

Ask and ye shall receive.

Here.

That's the Official D&D Update from the official WotC errata page (archived).

Is it wrong that I want the persons responsible for that awful excuse for being told it's raining while being urinated on, to be forced to listen as I describe in great detail why I hate that and it makes them unprofessional?

[kellbyb]

i actually like the idea of different disciplines working off of different stats, though six is a bit much. Hard to rationalize casting off of dex or str

I CAST FIST!

Seriously, 6-stat casting can be pretty fun.

[T.G. Oskar]

Miniatures Handbook.

Marshal can be a helpful 1 or 2 level dip, although I've yet to actually make use of this in-game. And Skullclan Hunter always looked serviceable; possibly one of the few decent noncaster Rogue PrC's. But again, haven't ever played one.

Useful, un-reprinted crunch ends right about here, as I see it.

Strange not to see War Hulk. No BAB progression, but you get +20 to Strength. That's one of the few PrCs I really consider Epic PrCs in disguise: by 21st level you get all your BAB and all you get is Epic Attack Bonus progressions; get a bunch of boosts to Strength, and it's like getting BAB with a free bonus to damage rolls, Strength checks and increase to carrying capacity, minus extra attacks. The others are: Dragon Disciple (for the bonus spell slots after getting 9th level spells), BoED's Wonderworker (ditto, except they also get more PP) and Oriental Adventures' Eunuch Warlock (also free bonus spell slots). Early on, they suck; later on, they rock. Warchief is also funny. Also: Protectar and Ramadeen were never updated (read: two celestials with low CR but without being Tiny, Small, or incorporeal), no other way to get free +8 to natural armor than a Crucian and Alter Self, Kruthiks were pretty awesome...a good deal of the monsters are fairly good. Besides, how I'm gonna convince my girlfriend to play D&D without the healer?

[squiggit]

Advanced Class Guide

Not because I hate the book or anything, but since it doesn't have any fluff of any sort in it (other than two sentences at the start of every chapter I guess), every time I want to look up anything ACG related I just use the pfsrd and I don't think I've touched the actual ACG since everything got printed on there.

[kalasulmar]

If I wanted to play 4e, I would go play ToB.

I think I just found a sig quote.

[Ethelesin]

Magic of Incarnum, no doubt. I love the book to bits but i just... Dont have the right kind of imagination to work with the tools it gives me.

[Psyren]

Advanced Class Guide

Not because I hate the book or anything, but since it doesn't have any fluff of any sort in it (other than two sentences at the start of every chapter I guess), every time I want to look up anything ACG related I just use the pfsrd and I don't think I've touched the actual ACG since everything got printed on there.

That's true for any of the core product line (i.e. Advanced X or Ultimtate X.) They are specifically designed to be setting-neutral, not that PF has more than one setting anyway.

ACG's first print run completely sold out even so.

[Fitz10019]

The Complete Riding Dog
What a mongrel.

[squiggit]

That's true for any of the core product line (i.e. Advanced X or Ultimtate X.) They are specifically designed to be setting-neutral, not that PF has more than one setting anyway.

ACG's first print run completely sold out even so.

Yeah I know, and I'm not blaming everyone. I've just realized that basically every time I want to work on an investigator or arcanist (etc.) I'm on d20pfsrd before I even think about opening the book.

The book itself is awesome and I only have a few minor complaints (ignoring the typos and some classes I don't like the only big one is stuff like the killing flourish feat chain being mysteriously slayer only for no real reason, which is minor stuff).

[JimboG]

Manual of the Planes, not because I was unsatisfied with the content, but because after reading it I instantly felt that all of my campaign settings were horribly and irrevocably inadequate and lacking imagination.

[blackspeeker]

I sometimes wish I hadn't bought the advanced class guide too, things are cool but seem sort of bland, maybe it's the fact that some of the classes feel forced together. Other days I'm glad I have it for a physical reference, since three guys myself included are playing a hybrid in one game and another member of our group recently converted to a bloodrager. But I don't really see myself using it that much in the future.

[lsfreak]

Of the ones I personally own, toss up between Heroes of Battle and MM1. HoB because it is primarily a collection of ideas, with precious little crunch. MM1 because all of it that I'd ever want is online. Missing a few things, but not enough to warrant what I paid for it.

Of other books, a number of good contenders have been mentioned. I don't think Epic Level Handbook has been mentioned yet though. It's primarily available online, but on top of that, you could probably take an evening and come up with something better-balanced and more interesting to play.

[Petrocorus]

MM1 because all of it that I'd ever want is online. Missing a few things, but not enough to warrant what I paid for it.

On the top of my head, the only monsters i really miss in the SRD are the Illithid and the Beholder.

[Svata]

On the top of my head, the only monsters i really miss in the SRD are the Illithid and the Beholder.

In addition, I'm partial to the gith, myself.