Hercules: a Disney Princess?

[Jak]

Okay, serious question. I know he's not technically a princess, but for some reason, I think he might meet the requirements of being a Disney princess. I can't remember where I heard this argument initially, but I remember being at least partially convinced that it was true.

Let's look at the facts. He's royalty, he's the star of a Disney movie, and physical contact with his true love was the climax of the story and technically saved him from death, (although this time it was a hand-grab instead of the usual kiss.). Not to mention he doesn't wear pants. (Not that that counts for anything.)

What do you guys think? Does this hold water? What are your guys' arguments on the subject?

[golentan]

If she identifies that way, sure, and if he doesn't, no, and that's all there is to it.

[Jak]

If she identifies that way, sure, and if he doesn't, no, and that's all there is to it.

Not exactly what I meant, although this being the first reply did confirm my suspicions, as well as give me a chuckle of amusement.

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This isn't an identity issue. He already solved that in the movie. He's a hero. What is still up for debate is whether or not he gets to be in the "club." The Disney Princess Club, that is.

[golentan]

I stand by my statement.

[SiuiS]

I'll make you a deal. He gets in, but in exchange we remove Mulan.

[golentan]

I'll make you a deal. He gets in, but in exchange we remove Mulan.

Ping/Shang, OTP. Mulan who?

[Jak]

What? Mulan is a Disney Princess? Oh, and I suppose we let Kaylee from "Quest for Camelot" in, too?

[Mystic Muse]

What? Mulan is a Disney Princess? Oh, and I suppose we let Kaylee from "Quest for Camelot" in, too?

Apparently, yes, even though she is not in any way royalty.

She also has a higher body count than most villains which I find to be rather impressive in its own way.

[LaZodiac]

At some point we basically have to decide what does and doesn't classify as a "Disney Royal Family Member".

Because if we're being technical here, Lilo and her sister should be princesses in the Disney canon, which makes Stitch and Lilo's Sister's Boyfriend both Princes. To be fair the boyfriend is actually the best Disney Prince as a result because he's completely supportive of her in every way and doesn't take her for granted and is a nice guy, but uh...Stitch counting as a Disney Prince is a little out there.

[SiuiS]

What? Mulan is a Disney Princess? Oh, and I suppose we let Kaylee from "Quest for Camelot" in, too?

There's a canon list, mate. I don't make the rules. I just remember them for future abuse in the noneuclidian convolutions of space that pass for my mind.

Ain't got no time for being a Disney princess, not wen you're the great stone dragon!

At some point we basically have to decide what does and doesn't classify as a "Disney Royal Family Member".

Disney does that.

Because if we're being technical here, Lilo and her sister should be princesses in the Disney canon, which makes Stitch and Lilo's Sister's Boyfriend both Princes. To be fair the boyfriend is actually the best Disney Prince as a result because he's completely supportive of her in every way and doesn't take her for granted and is a nice guy, but uh...Stitch counting as a Disney Prince is a little out there.

... How do they become royalty? Milan has a tenuous connection through high ranking official position granted by te emperor of China if Disney canon isn't sufficient. But LILO has... A sister with a good job?

[Gnoman]

The condition for being a Disney Pricess is "Looks good as a doll in a pretty dress, and is good at hugging little girls at Disneyland." Herc probably doesn't apply for the latter, and as for the former, it's a matter of opinion.

[Jak]

There's a canon list, mate.

Wow, I just looked at the Disney Princess wikia article, and he actually meets all of the listed requirements.

http://disneyprincess.wikia.com/wiki...ney_Princesses

[golentan]

The condition for being a Disney Pricess is "Looks good as a doll in a pretty dress, and is good at hugging little girls at Disneyland." Herc probably doesn't apply for the latter, and as for the former, it's a matter of opinion.

What quality does he have that would make him bad at hugging kids? Don't be afraid to dig yourself deeper on this one, you might luck out and hit land on the other side.

[Lentrax]

Besides, we all know that Herc'll turn down the godlike strength for huggin the little ones.

And I do enjoy all the freedoms a toga provides. good for movement, provides dramatic billowing when necessary, and to quote Mal, "It's the whole air flow."

[SiuiS]

The condition for being a Disney Pricess is "Looks good as a doll in a pretty dress, and is good at hugging little girls at Disneyland." Herc probably doesn't apply for the latter, and as for the former, it's a matter of opinion.

I can vouch for both of those. Herc already comes as a doll in a pretty dress (it's more of a dress than Tinkerbelle's!) and he's great at the hugs.

Wow, I just looked at the Disney Princess wikia article, and he actually meets all of the listed requirements.

http://disneyprincess.wikia.com/wiki...ney_Princesses

Score!

The trade is official. Mulan is no longer a mere Disney princess..

[Coidzor]

The only male disney princess I'm aware of is Kuzco.

[Themrys]

Wow, I just looked at the Disney Princess wikia article, and he actually meets all of the listed requirements.

http://disneyprincess.wikia.com/wiki...ney_Princesses

They're not required to be female? That's a surprise.

Wait, isn't "Maleficent" also a Disney movie? Why isn't Maleficent on that list? Okay, she's more of a queen, but she does look pretty in a dress.
Edit: Ah, the movie isn't animated. That's probably the problem.

[The Glyphstone]

I like the unofficial/unspoken requirement that your movie has to be profitable.

[Haruki-kun]

Oh, and I suppose we let Kaylee from "Quest for Camelot" in, too?

Would be difficult, since Quest for Camelot is Warner Brothers.

[EmeraldRose]

I forgot Princess Leia is sort of but not really a Disney Princess. You'd think they would include her, since Star Wars was and continues to be a success, and she is marketable.

[Gnoman]

What quality does he have that would make him bad at hugging kids? Don't be afraid to dig yourself deeper on this one, you might luck out and hit land on the other side.

He's big and intimidating. Kids tend to be afraid of very large people.

[SaintRidley]

Herc also sings, if I remember right. Bonus princess points.

[SiuiS]

The only male disney princess I'm aware of is Kuzco.

Luci isn't a princess. That's a remark on assuming he's got to be feminine because he's sassy, let's make fun of him good-naturedly. He's an emperor. Emperors can be as sassy as they please without slipping into a different and supposedly belittling gender role.

I forgot Princess Leia is sort of but not really a Disney Princess. You'd think they would include her, since Star Wars was and continues to be a success, and she is marketable.

Not animated.

He's big and intimidating. Kids tend to be afraid of very large people.

... no? Have you seen the guy at Disneyland? I could see children running terrified from Jack Skellington, but herc is a sweetheart.

[Haruki-kun]

IIRC, both Hercules and Gaston have little kids running up to them for pictures and autographs.

[Scarlet Knight]

Wow, I just looked at the Disney Princess wikia article, and he actually meets all of the listed requirements.

http://disneyprincess.wikia.com/wiki...ney_Princesses

No, no, no. Just stop this now.

First unbreakable rule of being a princess: you must be female.

"...the male counterparts are known as Disney Princes. "

Since this whole Disney Princess business is only a marketing ploy, Hercules is not a princess as you cannot package him with the girls. You cannot market Hercules hairbrushes, dresses, etc. to parents and expect to turn a profit.

[Hiro Protagonest]

Apparently, yes, even though she is not in any way royalty.

She also has a higher body count than most villains which I find to be rather impressive in its own way.

There are Disney villains with a higher body count than Mulan?

[BannedInSchool]

First unbreakable rule of being a princess: you must be female.

Don't you oppress him!

[TheCountAlucard]

Wow, I just looked at the Disney Princess wikia article, and he actually meets all of the listed requirements.

http://disneyprincess.wikia.com/wiki...ney_Princesses

Excuse me, first off, he still needs to be crowned such at Disney World. Since that hasn't happened yet, he's at best a Princess-in-Waiting.

And secondly, in the article you yourself provided, Jessica Rabbit was supposedly excluded from the list (in spite of being a character in a Disney movie) by dint of controversy over her sexist exaggerated proportions. So Herc's probably off the list for similar reasons.

[TheThan]

Fine, if Hercules gets in,

Spoiler: then she does too

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[Hiro Protagonest]

Fine, if Hercules gets in,

Spoiler: then she does too

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I thought that was already guaranteed regardless of Hercules.