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    Does my disjunction disjunct spell effects on me?

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    Yes. Unless the burst is centered far enough away that you're not contained inside the area of effect, or you're using something like Extraordinary Spell Aim from Complete Adventurer or similar.

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    Yes, if you're in the area of effect. The solution is to not put yourself in the area of effect of a Disjunction.
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    Would any effects made by Alter reality be affected? Since that's the only way I know that can reproduce magic effects but might not BE magic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Genesic View Post
    Would any effects made by Alter reality be affected? Since that's the only way I know that can reproduce magic effects but might not BE magic.
    Depends whether or not your DM decides Psionics and Magic are separate or not.
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    I think the OP might have meant the god ability.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renen View Post
    I think the OP might have meant the god ability.
    Ah. Then it probably depends on what they did. If they made something non-magical, then no. It's as real as the ground underneath your feet.

    Magical effects and the like... I'd say yes, but ask your DM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renen View Post
    I think the OP might have meant the god ability.
    In that case, disjunction will still affect it, if it is magical.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bad Wolf View Post
    Ah. Then it probably depends on what they did. If they made something non-magical, then no. It's as real as the ground underneath your feet.

    Magical effects and the like... I'd say yes, but ask your DM.
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    Salient Divine Abilities aren't tagged as magical anywhere. They ignore Disjunction, Dispel, AMF, Dead magic zones, etc. as a general rule.
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    Tippy comes through again!
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    Disjunction has a specific exception:
    All magical effects and magic items within the radius of the spell, except for those that you carry or touch, are disjoined.
    So the question is, do spells that target you count as being carried or touched by you? I would say yes, so the answer to the original question is actually no, spells on you are not affected by your own Disjunction.
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    Does that clause refer to magic effects and items or just items? To me it would mean just the latter since you don't actually carry or touch spells.

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    Quote Originally Posted by holywhippet View Post
    Does that clause refer to magic effects and items or just items? To me it would mean just the latter since you don't actually carry or touch spells.
    I would think the same, but the wording is certainly ambiguous enough to leave Douglas' interpretation as a legitimate possibility.

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    Maybe you can choose whether or not your own spells get disconnected when you case Disjunction on yourself?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aegis013 View Post
    I would think the same, but the wording is certainly ambiguous enough to leave Douglas' interpretation as a legitimate possibility.
    Yeah, maybe. But that makes the spell a lot less useful. If an enemy magic user has dropped a darkness spell on you and you are trying to use disjunction to take out the spell and any other magic in the target direction then the darkness spell isn't going to be removed since it is technically touching you.

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