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Thread: The Arkentools....Chaotic?
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2007-04-10, 12:08 AM (ISO 8601)
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It seems to me that her desire to force her will on the outside world (and thereby prevent it from hurting her again?) fits that view....
But even the Plaid tribe of Stanley and Sizemore is in danger. It's "nearly lost." What effect has the near destruction of their tribe (family?) had on Stanley and Sizemore?
Sizemore expects to die soon. Why does he return from the Magic Kingdom, to face his doom? (I don't know for sure that Sizemore had other options, but it seems at least possible he could have stayed in the Magic Kingdom, rather than returning to Gobwin Knob with Wanda.) Does Sizemore remain loyal to Stanley (his big brother?) because the two of them are among the last members of the Plaid?
Basically, I think Sizemore is loyal because he doesn't have the gumption to consider doing anything else.
Jillian doesn't know what she really wants. Is this because she's rejected her family? She doesn't let anyone except Wanda know she really a Royal. She has rejected both the obligations and privileges that come with being a member of her family. She is drawn to both Anson, who has a family like hers, and Wanda, who has no family.
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2007-04-10, 12:40 PM (ISO 8601)
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I think that when Sizemore insists on paying Janis 20 Rands on page 11, and explains why he's overpaying her by saying, "There's a good chance I'll never see you again", he's doing so because he strongly suspects that he's going to die soon. So I think his ignoring the danger and returning to Gobwin Knob showed real courage.
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2007-04-10, 09:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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Very true.
The new comic seems to support that....
I think this is unlikely; when you consider a typical family with several children, the children try to be as different as possible....And so a child wouldn't really relish the idea of being stuck in families in Childworld. More likely (imho) is that each tribe is a group of friends, and the reason that they're becoming lost is that they're growing up, and growing apart from each other.
For Stanley, I have to ask you this question in return: Is Stanley capable of feeling love for members of his family/group of friends? Or is it a result of his apathy that the Plaid tribe is becoming lost, as people abandon him?
Had he not returned to Gobwin Knob, and Stanley lost the battle, then it's quite likely that he'd be killed as soon as someone from Ansom's army found him. So the least dangerous thing for him to do is probably to go back to the capital anyway.
Actually, Jillian has no family (or no friends) because she claims no tribe, and Ansom does have one because he's a Jetstone. I don't think Royals are all members of the same family; it seems more like Royals are the leaders of their respective tribes.
I don't think Ansom has a relationship with Jillian yet; he wants to, but she seems to be ignoring him completely....
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2007-04-11, 05:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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On Page 40, Wanda, Parson and Stanley remind me of a sitcom mom/son/stepdad dynamic. Read the first two panels again, replacing "perfect warlord" with "perfect son" and replacing "Overlord" with "husband". It totally works!
Wait...now I'm not sure why I posted that in this thread. It doesn't really fit a Childworld reading, does it? I must've been looking at it more general terms of family dynamics.Last edited by Scientivore; 2007-04-11 at 05:54 PM.
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2007-04-11, 11:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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Consider: Erfworld is first and foremost a game.
What is the purpose of this game, and how can it be won? Parson is an expert on games: how long will it take him to recognize the fundamental nature of the situation he's in, and see it as more than a series of combats?Alignments are objective. Right and wrong are not.
Good: Will act to prevent harm to others even at personal cost.
Evil: Will seek personal benefit even if it causes harm to others.
Law: General, universal, and consistent trump specific, local, and inconsistent.
Chaos: Specific, local, and inconsistent trump general, universal, and consistent.
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2007-04-12, 10:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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Last edited by Maerad of Pellinor; 2007-04-12 at 10:07 PM.
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2007-04-13, 11:18 AM (ISO 8601)
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2007-04-13, 09:05 PM (ISO 8601)
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Good point....
Edit: But assuming Parson isn't croaked, can he really lose the game? He isn't under any obligations to defend Gobwin Knob, after all--only to obey Stanley....So if Stanley dies, he wins (he's free of his needing to obey) and if Stanley lives, he wins (his side won the battle--assuming GK losing implies Stanley's death)Last edited by Maerad of Pellinor; 2007-04-13 at 09:08 PM.
"Take my love, take my land, take me where I cannot stand, I don't care, I'm still free, you can't take the sky from me. Take me out to the black, tell 'em I ain't comin' back, burn the land and boil the sea, you can't take the sky from me. There's no place I can be since I found Serenity, but you can't take the sky from me."
May the Force be with you.
Why are you standing in the courtyard holding a parasol painted like a bullseye?
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2007-04-22, 12:59 PM (ISO 8601)
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Wanda doesn't know what a child is. Which makes me think even more that Erfworld is the world of a child's imagination....
"Take my love, take my land, take me where I cannot stand, I don't care, I'm still free, you can't take the sky from me. Take me out to the black, tell 'em I ain't comin' back, burn the land and boil the sea, you can't take the sky from me. There's no place I can be since I found Serenity, but you can't take the sky from me."
May the Force be with you.
Why are you standing in the courtyard holding a parasol painted like a bullseye?
Highlight: I prepared Explosive Runes this morning.