My Little Pony LXXXVI: Too Suggestive for Ponythread!

[Alabenson]

It's a CARTOON NETWORK reboot.

One only has to look at the final series of Dexter's Lab, what I'm told (and fractically little I'm seen) of Xaolin Showdown's reboot - even that attempt they had a while back. (Heck, you coukld even argue Avatar => Korra.)

They usually don't come to to standard. Especially if they have a new ste of voice actors (and nothing in "reboot" suggests that they will.)

We're not talking about the reboot of MLP G1 - 3.5, we're closer to talking about a reboot of FiM. The former series had a lot more room to improve (and lightning struck and struck HARD when FiM was created)... Whereas reboot a series that was already good give you a MUCH higher chance of something worse. Higher you start, the further you have to fall - and the easier it is.

And, need I remind you that CN axes anything with any kind of potential these days in liu of chasing the Next Big Thing. Unless they've finally replaces whatever numpty took over and made decisions like cancelling Young Justice and Green Lanturn and Brave and the Bold for the underwhleming (and shortly cancelled, to one-one's surprise) Beware the Batman, bringing Titan Go rather than Titans (and I even do like Go).

So, yeah. Until we hear something FAR more positive (like who's writing it, what the cast is) I'll remain thoroughly sceptical.

Two positive points which might help;

1: The executive producer they've put in charge of the reboot is the same guy who runs Adventure Time, so there's at least someone who knows what they're doing on-board in a decision making role.

2: The idiot who had been mutilating Cartoon Network since 2007, CEO Stuart Snyder, was fired last May.

[Rater202]

2: The idiot who had been mutilating Cartoon Network since 2007, CEO Stuart Snyder, was fired last May.

...Would it be inappropriate for me to start Singing Brand New Day*?

*The one from The Wiz, not the One from Doctor Horrible

[zimmerwald1915]

...Would it be inappropriate for me to start Singing Brand New Day*?

*The one from The Wiz, not the One from Doctor Horrible

Is it ever?

[DigoDragon]

...Would it be inappropriate for me to start Singing Brand New Day*?

I don't see why it would. Unless you're actually a siren and your singing lures sailors to their doom, in which case it might be a bad idea.

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[Aotrs Commander]

Two positive points which might help;

1: The executive producer they've put in charge of the reboot is the same guy who runs Adventure Time, so there's at least someone who knows what they're doing on-board in a decision making role.

2: The idiot who had been mutilating Cartoon Network since 2007, CEO Stuart Snyder, was fired last May.

Well, that is something more hopeful, at least.

Especially that last one.

[b_jonas]

T) She becomes a winged cyborg, gets paired up with Rumble, and they take their vigilante show on the road to Las Pegasus.

That could work too, yes. Flying cyborgs are rare, I think.

[DigoDragon]

Your PSA for today:

If you open the dryer and find all your clothes clinging to the right side of the drum, for the love of Celestia don't reach in and grab them! Because yes, there is a threshold for static electricity where it can be visibly seen in the daylight.


Also, OUCH.

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[HalfTangible]

Because yes, there is a threshold for static electricity where it can be visibly seen in the daylight.

I can vouch for him on this, if need be.

[Forum Explorer]

So someone hired Discord as weather manager in my area. Remember how I was saying it was +2ish a day or two ago? Well today it's -15. Tomorrow? They say it's going back up to +1. By Wednesday? -17.

The roads in my city are going to be so bad this year.

[Metahuman1]

It's a CARTOON NETWORK reboot.

One only has to look at the final series of Dexter's Lab, what I'm told (and fractically little I'm seen) of Xaolin Showdown's reboot - even that attempt they had a while back. (Heck, you coukld even argue Avatar => Korra.)

They usually don't come to to standard. Especially if they have a new ste of voice actors (and nothing in "reboot" suggests that they will.)

We're not talking about the reboot of MLP G1 - 3.5, we're closer to talking about a reboot of FiM. The former series had a lot more room to improve (and lightning struck and struck HARD when FiM was created)... Whereas reboot a series that was already good give you a MUCH higher chance of something worse. Higher you start, the further you have to fall - and the easier it is.

And, need I remind you that CN axes anything with any kind of potential these days in liu of chasing the Next Big Thing. Unless they've finally replaces whatever numpty took over and made decisions like cancelling Young Justice and Green Lanturn and Brave and the Bold for the underwhleming (and shortly cancelled, to one-one's surprise) Beware the Batman, bringing Titan Go rather than Titans (and I even do like Go).

So, yeah. Until we hear something FAR more positive (like who's writing it, what the cast is) I'll remain thoroughly sceptical.

So, fun fact time. The chuckle head your referring to was Stuart Snyder. He was adamant in his hate of cartoons and animation. Everything that's bad about CN in the last decade can be tied to him either directly, or indirectly through one of the MANY yes men he liked to hire.

Second fun fact, he was fired about 2 years ago. They were quite about it, they let him keep what dignity he had left (Decent of them, don't know I'd have done the same.), and have been quietly purging the Networks ranks of is Yes Men in that time so that they can start effectively reversing his policies.


And finally, CN has an upcoming ep of Teen Titans Go were in the cast and characters form Young Justice will guest star and team up with the team. This means one of two things is going on. 1: There gonna announce that there bringing Young Justice Back. Or, 2, this is a screen Test, and if the ratings are good (Or better still, better then Go's norm.), then they'll decide to bring it back. Thus, it's in the YJ fandom's best interest to seek out and watch this one ep.



And 1 Skit none withstanding, I Dispise TTG. (The first skit ever. The one that was built around the Brony In joke.)

[DigoDragon]

I can vouch for him on this, if need be.

I'm apparently a really good electrical conductor. Might make sense given I'm an earth sign?

So someone hired Discord as weather manager in my area. Remember how I was saying it was +2ish a day or two ago? Well today it's -15. Tomorrow? They say it's going back up to +1. By Wednesday? -17.

Wow, that just brings back the Lewis Black skit about weather...

That is a crazy rollercoaster.

And 1 Skit none withstanding, I Dispise TTG. (The first skit ever. The one that was built around the Brony In joke.)

What about the one where the Titans were sent into pony land? I think the episode was called Friendship.

[Fable Wright]

So, fun fact time. The chuckle head your referring to was Stuart Snyder. He was adamant in his hate of cartoons and animation. Everything that's bad about CN in the last decade can be tied to him either directly, or indirectly through one of the MANY yes men he liked to hire.

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Why did he become the head of Cartoon Network, then? You know, the channel well-loved for its cartoons and whose main draw is, was, and will always be, well, Cartoons?

Who would ever think this was a good idea?

[DigoDragon]

Why did he become the head of Cartoon Network, then?

Maybe his hatred was so great that the best way to destroy cartoons was to get himself put in charge of the network with cartoons for it's name? And get paid while doing it?

[Kd7sov]

But then she'd have to leave the other Crusaders behind.

I think.

Somepony have the map? Is Los Pegasus a cloud city?

My own headcanon is that Las Pegasus is built half on a cloud, half on a mesa to which the cloud is anchored. So it's largely a cloud city, yes, but there's plenty of non-cloud districts.

[Forum Explorer]

Maybe his hatred was so great that the best way to destroy cartoons was to get himself put in charge of the network with cartoons for it's name? And get paid while doing it?

He sounds like a villain out of, well, a cartoon.

[Rater202]

Has his house been shot up by GIJoe yet?

[DigoDragon]

My own headcanon is that Las Pegasus is built half on a cloud, half on a mesa to which the cloud is anchored. So it's largely a cloud city, yes, but there's plenty of non-cloud districts.

Sounds like how the actual Las Vegas is built. :3

He sounds like a villain out of, well, a cartoon.

He does, right? It's hard to make up stuff like that.

Has his house been shot up by GIJoe yet?

No, because G.I.Joe were terrible shots. :3

[Rater202]

No, because G.I.Joe were terrible shots. :3

Which is why his house would be shot all to hell, but not him.

[Aotrs Commander]

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Why did he become the head of Cartoon Network, then? You know, the channel well-loved for its cartoons and whose main draw is, was, and will always be, well, Cartoons?

Who would ever think this was a good idea?

That was the question everybody asked at the time.

I googled the fellow, and apparently it was simply down to him being an idiot - he decided (for some reason) children were watching reality television and live-action, and thus Cartoon Network should do that. Funnily enough, it backfired terribly. What I cannot understand is his superiors not hitting him in the head with a shovel the very second he first mentioned it. I can only assume they were the sort of blind-headed cretinuous business people unable to comprehend anything outside their own (current, limited) expereince.

The sort of people whose souls will be set on fire when I'm in charge just on general principle. After, y'know, I utterly destroy everything they've ever understood or worked for by dragging Earth into post-scarity and rendering all their life's dreams utterly worthless.

Right, enough of that - time to go and start on the last four episodes of Korra...

[Thanqol]

Hi, Ponythread!

Here's a not very serious pool question about the next two seasons. Whose magic do you think will help Scootaloo fly on her own? (Rainbow Dash or other flying creatures lifting her don't count.)

None, that would defeat the point. Scootaloo not being able to fly is the show talking about children with disabilities and saying that's okay and they're still special just the way they are.

[Rater202]

None, that would defeat the point. Scootaloo not being able to fly is the show talking about children with disabilities and saying that's okay and they're still special just the way they are.

Without being preachy about it.

Though part of me would still like her to get some kind of magitech scooter that gives her a bit of extra lift.

[Aotrs Commander]

Bleakbane Watches:

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Oh, this is getting intense. This was definitely "callback" episode.

Fricking Iroh! The original. Damn, dude! Never did get enought of that Wise Old Master thing, did you? That was a very welcome surprise!

I actually liked the whole "Korra becomes a child" thing.

Evil Uncle is clearly an idiot beyond all recognition. I cannot wait to see his face when he releases Batu and Batu is like "excellent! Now die!" and he'll be like a little kid "y-you lied to me!?" And Batu will be like "uh, which bit of 'chaotic spirit of evil and destruction' did you not understand, frackwit? Seriosuly, I'd be doing the genepool a favour killing you if, y'know, I wasn't destroying the whole thing."

Poor Jinora. But what could Korra do? Don;'t open the portal and her soul carks it, and even if she does, run the risk of both their souls carking it.

Also, that owl-spirit due is a real [expletive]-bag. Somenecromancer needs to go kill his spirit in the face. Asshat.

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Speaking of asshats, Beifong's moustache twisn got everything they deserved. Unfortunately, the blame still lies solidly at HER door for not dealing with them (or listening to Mako) in the first place. I'm starting to believe she might be a good fighter - but as chief of police, she's incompetant.

Bolin... Hmm. At the start of this episode, I was really starting to dislike him. But... he actually DID save the president singlehandedly. (Again, good job Beifong, shout orders but don't go HELP or anything, frag's sake.) So we'll call that a wash ion the end.

The president is so generically Blind Politician it's not funny. Which bit of "if Evil Uncle succeeds, the world willbe destroyed" did you NOT understand? Are you actually mentally retarded mate? Clearly you are, and clearly you need to be replaced by someone in possesion of somethign resembling an actual brain. Don't make me break out the Bleakbane's List of Who Would Have Been A Better President...

Evil Uncle may be, frankly, dumbfrack for following Batu... But hey, at least now the guy actually cops to what he's doing and what he's after. And he actually has some charisma, unlike some other narrative objects I won't even dignify with a name... (And even in victory, it showed he didn't do it without effort and he did show signs of worry.) Dude's a bit generic, maybe, yeah, but at least he's a proper character.

Mako - you're a bloody idot. Lying to Korra is not only going to make HER mad, but fracks of poor Asami as well. Good job on undoing all the characterisation you'd accrued as an independant character.


Also. The first avatar was "Wan" => "One." Haha guys, I nearly missed it, but I see what you did there.

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Well... they tried. And, to be honest, is was pretty obvious that of COURSE they weren't going to defat Evil Uncle before Batu got out, because it's have had to be written by Joss Whedon to have done otherwise...

Ya gotta hand to Evil Uncle... Bonding with Batu to become the Dark Avatar... That's... actually way smarter than I'd givne him credit for...and just plausible enough for Batu to go along with willingly. I got to tip my hat to him, as one evil doer to another, that takes some stones. Jealous of the Avatar? Scheme to BECOME the next avatar. I'm actually impressed.

Suddenly, watching Bumi... Inept his way to victor, I find I can actually start to believe his crazy stories. Clearly, he IS a Bender... He just bends LUCK and wild chance to Inspector Gadget his way through all his crazy shenaigans...

(In one way, I'm almost disappointed, since it means he's basically just a comic relief character. Even though he did save the day... It would have been more awesome if it had been with skill, old age and treachery, rather than dumb luck and shown that beneath his exterior, there was a capable individual well hidden. But, sadly, not to be.)

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Okay, so that went about as well as expected. And Dark Avatar has glowing red-orange eyes. Heh. Naturally.

Bolin... you're either being really clever... Or this is turning out to be the creepiest romance since Fifty Shades of Grey.

Tenzen - good job, mate. (I'd have thought Iroh might have lent a bit more help... Though I suppose he DID actually tell them where to go...!) 'Bout time you started realising you're you and not Aang. And that's something to be proud of.

Also ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! Zhou! Ahahahahahahahahahaha! Man, there's nothing quite like seeing the satisfaction of someone truly deserving getting his eternal punishment. Cracking!

Okay, so Evil Spirit Avatar Combo has some sort of "soul-stripping attack." Well, given as how he's had nothing but ten thousand years to plan and work out new attack forms, I'mma gonna allow that one.

Watching him literally beat the Avatar out of Korra was kind hard, since once you're acquianted with the characters... It's nasty.

And then Batu is clearly better at this, or he's doing something nastier because his Avatar state because yikes...

Well. Frack. Cliffhanger.

Now I got to wait until April until season 3.

*takes DVD out*

*starts to put DVD back in case*

*see 14th episode*

...

*puts DVD back in*

Huh. I was sure it was a 13-episode season....

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So, Mr President, how's that "keeping my force to protect my city" working out for you? It isn't? Oh, then maybe you should have actually DONE SOMETHING IN THE FIRST PLACE. Y'know. Because if you had actually not racked about like a moron, Korra and co would likely have pulverised Evil Uncle before Batu got out.[Expletive]wit.

Okay. Jinora is offically badarse. I don't even KNOW what she did there, but damn!

And Bolin's creepy relationship appears over. I think I'm relieved...

And Batu and Evil Uncle get discombulated.Well, they had it coming.


Mm. I'm not sure I like the whole "broken connection to previous Avatars" thing. At all. Not only does it take away from one of the more interesting parts of the mythos - and seal off a host of interesting characters (Avatar Freaking Kyoshi) and world-building, but it's such terrible cliche thing to do as well. (Oh yawn, the whole "blahblahblah coming of age blahblahblah no help from old people blahblahblah;" heard it all before lads, try something new.) I would like to hope they fix in in later seasons. (Either that or I will simply headcanon it fixed later on and damn their eyes.)

Not sure I think leaving the way open to the spirit-realm is a good idea, either. Since, y'know, as we've seen the majority of the spirits appear to be kind of [genitalia]. (Mind you, so are the majority of humans. Keeping the twain in their seperate corners would seem to be wiser, since a large proportion of the latter are utterly helpless against all the former. Hah, that said, I'd almost want to see the Equalists faces when they realised they'd gotten rid of the only people that could give them any kind of defence against the spirits.)

And it also seems... unwise... to leave the door open for people who just don't want to move on and linger in the spirit world. Iroh's fine, yeah... But Zhou's in there. And it only takes one manic who refuses to die. Not too mention all the fracking nasty spirits likr Koh the face-stealer who's just been given a free pass to an open buffet. (Or mister Asshattowl.)

So, giving the very last a bit of a black mark.



Other than that, definitely a better season than the first.

There are still some problems. Bolin... varies from unbearable to watchable erratically. Mako is.. struggling as well. You'd nearly have been as well combining Bumi and Bolin into one, really. Kya always seemed sort of... I dunno, tacked on. We never got to see her aside from in the context of bickering with her brothers or healing. Lin Beifong, I'm sorry to say, basically wants sacking. She's pretty damn crap at her job. On the otherhand, it appears than the Equalists magically stole everyone else's competance. Asami was under utlised: I think a lot more could have been made of her.

Korra, on the other hand, I like. She is hot-headed, but she's starting to temper that with experience, and she has her head screwed on mostly right. Tenzen is extremely well done, uniquely so. Jinora has been very well used and it was nice to see all the children had at least some attempt at development, rather than being completely one-note.

Evil Uncle and Batu made for MUCH better bad guys... I mean, they weren't sp[ectacular, but they were at least above just functional - and well above completely risible like Amron and company. Even if they might have been a shade on the generic side, at least it was with some heart. And most of all, both of them were entertaining to watch (and were actually allowed to be beaten by the y'know, protagonist.)

That's it for Korra for the moment, as I only have up to season two. Probably back onto Naruto next, as the next volume is in - which is starting to be something of a mixed experience in its old age. It hasn't quite got to be the point I abandon it... but it's definitely on a slow slide from its heyday. (The tragic thing is, it's often better when it's being filler than when it's being main plot. Still, Killer Bee is in it, so that's always a good laugh...)

[Rater202]

That's it for Korra for the moment, as I only have up to season two. Probably back onto Naruto next, as the next volume is in - which is starting to be something of a mixed experience in its old age. It hasn't quite got to be the point I abandon it... but it's definitely on a slow slide from its heyday. (The tragic thing is, it's often better when it's being filler than when it's being main plot. Still, Killer Bee is in it, so that's always a good laugh...)

Are you at the "Confining the Jinchuuriki Arch" yet, on those DVD releases? The quality goes up from there, although it plateaus at the end of the Ten Tails Revival Arc

[Aotrs Commander]

Are you at the "Confining the Jinchuuriki Arch" yet, on those DVD releases? The quality goes up from there, although it plateaus at the end of the Ten Tails Revival Arc

Think we're at the point where Naruto is training with Bee to control/whatever the Nine Tails on that island, and I think Dark Naruto showed his face. (I was a bit later than usual ordering the DVD so I can't remember exactly...)

[Rater202]

Think we're at the point where Naruto is training with Bee to control/whatever the Nine Tails on that island, and I think Dark Naruto showed his face. (I was a bit later than usual ordering the DVD so I can't remember exactly...)

Yeah, that's the Confining the Jinchuuriki Arc-where Naruto and Bee and put in the giant turtle island filled with giant Animals under the guise of A special mission/a vacation, respectively, in order to keep them from finding out that there's an entire War being fought to keep them safe.

[Juntao112]

Without being preachy about it.

Though part of me would still like her to get some kind of magitech scooter that gives her a bit of extra lift.

You're thinking too small.

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[DigoDragon]

You're thinking too small.

This post needs more Jetpack. Mares love Jetpacks.

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[Dexam]

I, for one, am not at all clear on the lead-up to the unicorns. These ponies have trouble understanding magic, and therefore they're both scared and frightened? Is the magic doing something that they specifically don't understand, something scary and frightening, and they want Equidae to teach them to tame it or something, like with the weather?

The bit with the unicorns and magic could use some more specific examples. It's easy to understand tending the earth and dealing with storms, it's a little tricky to imagine what went down with the magic that got the ponies so worried.

The idea is that all this original "creation magic" is running around loose, and the earth ponies and pegasi are all "weird freaky stuff keeps happening, which we call magic, and we're so busy looking after the land and sky that we don't have the time to figure out how it works... Help us!". It was a bit difficult trying to explain all that while keeping the same format as the Earth Pony and Pegasus parts of the myth - I guess I lost some detail in trying to keep it simple. The overall concept is earth ponies tame the land, pegasi tame the sky, unicorns tame the magic, alicorns tame the future.

[cavalieredraghi]

You're thinking too small.

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This post needs more Jetpack. Mares love Jetpacks.

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How come her tail is not catching fire

[DigoDragon]

How come her tail is not catching fire

Because she's too cool to take the heat.

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Edit:
So thanks to Balmas' Tumblr, I learned today that leather can be made from pineapples.