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    Default DEX: How to increase it

    Hey guys

    I'm trying to build a DEX (and maybe WIS) based character, and I wanted to know how can I get my DEX as high as possible..

    I can start my character at ECL 4, which means LA+1 are already bought off, but I wouldn't like more than LA+1 (Although suggestions are welcome)

    I'll focus on a Confound the Big Folk build, so I intend to get tiny, but I can simply polymorph myself into a giant type race and buy some castings of return to nature to decrease my size.

    This means that any high dex race is good, and templates are welcome, so I'm trying to reach something like +6 or higher in DEX, with templates and races with LA+1 or at most LA+2

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    Default Re: DEX: How to increase it

    jermaline from MM2 pg 131 is a playable tiny fey with -6 Str +6 Dex -2 Con -2 Int +6 Wis -6 Cha, and has a speed of 40 ft
    LA 0.

    you could add templates to it but honestly its good enough. since you are tiny you can use confound the big folk on medium creatures.
    Damn girl you definitely have a +8 size modifier to AC!

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    Race: Air Goblin or Lesser Wispling
    Unseelie Fey (LA +0)
    Shadow-walker (LA +1)
    Dex +8
    May be +10, if you take Deformity (Gaunt)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShurikVch View Post
    Race: Air Goblin or Lesser Wispling
    Unseelie Fey (LA +0)
    Shadow-walker (LA +1)
    Dex +8
    May be +10, if you take Deformity (Gaunt)
    with -6 str, -6 con to boot...
    Damn girl you definitely have a +8 size modifier to AC!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sideswipe View Post
    with -6 str, -6 con to boot...
    Where you got those numbers?
    Str: 2 for race, 2 for Unseelie. -4
    Con: 2 if Air Goblin, 2 for Unseelie, and... 2 if Gaunt?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShurikVch View Post
    Where you got those numbers?
    Str: 2 for race, 2 for Unseelie. -4
    Con: 2 if Air Goblin, 2 for Unseelie, and... 2 if Gaunt?
    your forgetting your other template....

    so my mistake, -4 str -6 con
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    Damn girl you definitely have a +8 size modifier to AC!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sideswipe View Post
    with -6 str, -6 con to boot...
    Faerie Mysteries, anybody?
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    Another variant:
    Beguiler as race (from Shining South)
    Arachnoid Creature template (from the Underdark)
    +10 Dex, -4 Str, -4 Int; LA +0

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    If you want a tiny +DEX critter with no –CON, you want the muckdweller, from Serpent Kingdoms (pg. 71). –6 STR, +6 DEX, –2 WIS, –2 CHA. Tiny size, Weapon Finesse as a bonus feat, good natural armor, a squirt attack that blinds people (with one of the very few DEX-based save DCs in the game), a bite attack, and some other goodies. (Even better, if you're an arcane caster, you can pick up a muckdweller as an Improved Familiar. Yes, even if you happen to be a muckdweller yourself.)

    I'm a big fan of muckdwellers. Anything that gets 18 AC stark naked with zero investment at level 1 (assuming a 10 DEX pre-racial, you've got NA + 3, DEX + 3, size + 2, and that's before wearing armor or putting any stat points into DEX) is worth looking at. Best of all, they're LA 0, so you can still pick up an LA +1 template if you want one, though I'd personally probably just keep my class levels.
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    Default Re: DEX: How to increase it

    What about a muckdweller with unseelie fey template? I think it would fit my needs

    My only doubt is: Can I use unseelie fey? I mean, it doesn't have a listed LA, only in the example critter..

    @atemu1234: Faerie Mysteries is only appliable to elves

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    Quote Originally Posted by bootzin View Post
    What about a muckdweller with unseelie fey template? I think it would fit my needs

    My only doubt is: Can I use unseelie fey? I mean, it doesn't have a listed LA, only in the example critter..

    @atemu1234: Faerie Mysteries is only appliable to elves
    Any regional feat can be taken if you have 2 ranks in the appropiate knowledge local.

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    Bind Paimon for +4 untyped bonus to DEX (requires at least Binder 3).

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    Default Re: DEX: How to increase it

    Quote Originally Posted by Wacky89 View Post
    Any regional feat can be taken if you have 2 ranks in the appropiate knowledge local.
    IIRC, it is a racial feat, isn't it?

    And I would really like to know if Unseelie Fey is LA +0 and where is it from. Is it from Dragon Mag or Forgotten Realms? Or neither?

    I'm not really familiar with a binder :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by bootzin View Post
    IIRC, it is a racial feat, isn't it?

    And I would really like to know if Unseelie Fey is LA +0 and where is it from. Is it from Dragon Mag or Forgotten Realms? Or neither?

    I'm not really familiar with a binder :/
    Unseelie fey is from Dragon Compendium, Binder from Tome of Magic. Have fun.
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    Default Re: DEX: How to increase it

    Now I want to make an Unseelie Fey Binder/Jaunter/Telflammar Shadowlord

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    Default Re: DEX: How to increase it

    Quote Originally Posted by bootzin View Post
    IIRC, it is a racial feat, isn't it?
    Faerie mysteries is from Dragon Magazine#319


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    Unapproachable East p. 40. You can read about taking regional feats there.

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