New OOTS products from CafePress
New OOTS t-shirts, ornaments, mugs, bags, and more
Results 1 to 13 of 13

Thread: Devotion feats:

  1. - Top - End - #1
    Barbarian in the Playground
     
    HalflingRangerGuy

    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Sin City
    Gender
    Male

    Default Devotion feats:

    Ok so I have been reading around on the boards about devotion feats from the Complete Champion. Since I don't have the book I am realying on the GITP to help me understand the concept of them.

    To take a Devotion feat one must already have the domain selected as one of the two/three domains given and THEN "sacrifice" that domain for its corresponding Devotion feat?

    For example to take Strength Devotion you must already have the Strength Domain and then give it up for Strength Devotion.
    Spoiler
    Show
    Quote Originally Posted by Drascin View Post
    DM: "And now you descend into the mazelike tunnels, where no light save for what magic you bring will illuminate your path, as you search for-"
    Player: "I'm preparing Teleport twice each day."
    DM: "...and there goes the tension by the window"

    Spoiler
    Show
    I Am A: Lawful Good Human Ranger (3rd Level)
    Ability Scores
    Strength: 15
    Dexterity: 18
    Constitution: 16
    Intelligence: 16
    Wisdom: 16
    Charisma: 14

  2. - Top - End - #2
    Ettin in the Playground
     
    Eurus's Avatar

    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Gender
    Male

    Default Re: Devotion feats:

    Not quite. You can take a devotion feat as a normal feat, or you can give up access to that domain to get it as a bonus feat instead.

  3. - Top - End - #3
    Titan in the Playground
     
    Greenish's Avatar

    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    Finland

    Default Re: Devotion feats:

    Quote Originally Posted by Os1ris09 View Post
    To take a Devotion feat one must already have the domain selected as one of the two/three domains given and THEN "sacrifice" that domain for its corresponding Devotion feat?

    For example to take Strength Devotion you must already have the Strength Domain and then give it up for Strength Devotion.
    You can do that, or you can just pick them up as normal feats. Most of them don't even have any prerequisites.
    Quotes:
    Spoiler
    Show
    Quote Originally Posted by Claudius Maximus View Post
    Also fixed the money issue by sacrificing a goat.
    Quote Originally Posted by subject42 View Post
    This board needs a "you're technically right but I still want to crawl into the fetal position and cry" emoticon.
    Quote Originally Posted by Yukitsu View Post
    I define [optimization] as "the process by which one attains a build meeting all mechanical and characterization goals set out by the creator prior to its creation."
    Praise for avatar may be directed to Derjuin.

  4. - Top - End - #4
    Bugbear in the Playground
     
    RogueGuy

    Join Date
    Jan 2009

    Default Re: Devotion feats:

    No. As far as I have understood it, it's either or:

    Either:

    You have access to a Domain (for example, as a Cleric) you can sacrifice the domain granted power and the spells you get from that domain and instead pick the corresponding Devotion Feat.

    Or:

    You can spend one of your normal feats to pick a Devotion Feat.


    Ninjas? EDIT: Yes, Ninjas.
    Last edited by Thespianus; 2010-05-30 at 01:26 PM.

  5. - Top - End - #5
    Barbarian in the Playground
     
    HalflingRangerGuy

    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Sin City
    Gender
    Male

    Default Re: Devotion feats:

    Ok thanks GITP. I now got why you guys were saying sacrifice the Domain on these forums.
    Spoiler
    Show
    Quote Originally Posted by Drascin View Post
    DM: "And now you descend into the mazelike tunnels, where no light save for what magic you bring will illuminate your path, as you search for-"
    Player: "I'm preparing Teleport twice each day."
    DM: "...and there goes the tension by the window"

    Spoiler
    Show
    I Am A: Lawful Good Human Ranger (3rd Level)
    Ability Scores
    Strength: 15
    Dexterity: 18
    Constitution: 16
    Intelligence: 16
    Wisdom: 16
    Charisma: 14

  6. - Top - End - #6
    Ogre in the Playground
     
    AssassinGuy

    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Gender
    Male

    Default Re: Devotion feats:

    Note that normal characters can only get two Devotion feats, ever. A cleric can get three, but one of them must be from sacrificing a domain.

    Note that clerics don't sacrifice a domain granted power, they sacrifice the entire domain, including access to the spells it gives. There's sometimes some confusion about whether it's just granted power, or the entire domain.
    Last edited by lsfreak; 2010-05-30 at 01:39 PM.
    Proudly without a signature for 5 years. Wait... crap.

  7. - Top - End - #7
    Titan in the Playground
     
    AssassinGuy

    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Sunnydale

    Default Re: Devotion feats:

    Also note there's no time constraint on when you can swap a domain for the corresponding feat. It can be done any time after you obtain the feat. You could even decide to swap Travel domain for Travel Devotion in mid-combat if you wanted. You'd lose any prepared Travel spells in addition to the domain's granted power, but the switch would be immediate, and then you could use the feat with just the standard swift action. (You can't switch back, so this is strictly a once-only option.)

  8. - Top - End - #8
    Barbarian in the Playground
     
    HalflingRangerGuy

    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Sin City
    Gender
    Male

    Default Re: Devotion feats:

    Quote Originally Posted by Curmudgeon View Post
    Also note there's no time constraint on when you can swap a domain for the corresponding feat. It can be done any time after you obtain the feat. You could even decide to swap Travel domain for Travel Devotion in mid-combat if you wanted. You'd lose any prepared Travel spells in addition to the domain's granted power, but the switch would be immediate, and then you could use the feat with just the standard swift action. (You can't switch back, so this is strictly a once-only option.)
    That just sounds like cheese....... LOL
    Spoiler
    Show
    Quote Originally Posted by Drascin View Post
    DM: "And now you descend into the mazelike tunnels, where no light save for what magic you bring will illuminate your path, as you search for-"
    Player: "I'm preparing Teleport twice each day."
    DM: "...and there goes the tension by the window"

    Spoiler
    Show
    I Am A: Lawful Good Human Ranger (3rd Level)
    Ability Scores
    Strength: 15
    Dexterity: 18
    Constitution: 16
    Intelligence: 16
    Wisdom: 16
    Charisma: 14

  9. - Top - End - #9
    Titan in the Playground
     
    AssassinGuy

    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Sunnydale

    Default Re: Devotion feats:

    Quote Originally Posted by Os1ris09 View Post
    That just sounds like cheese....... LOL
    No, I don't think so. The Travel domain granted power is really pretty good, and so are the spells (6 out of 9 aren't on the regular Cleric list). You're unlikely to know that dumping all of that for Travel Devotion is the right move, and it's an irrevocable switch. The fact that you can do so any time you can act, including in combat, is just a curiosity of the rules. There's no cheese there that you haven't paid for.

  10. - Top - End - #10
    Barbarian in the Playground
     
    HalflingRangerGuy

    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Sin City
    Gender
    Male

    Default Re: Devotion feats:

    But the mere fact that you can do it on any of your actions including during combat is kinda cheesy. I am just saying wouldn't you have to select it during non-stressful situations?
    Spoiler
    Show
    Quote Originally Posted by Drascin View Post
    DM: "And now you descend into the mazelike tunnels, where no light save for what magic you bring will illuminate your path, as you search for-"
    Player: "I'm preparing Teleport twice each day."
    DM: "...and there goes the tension by the window"

    Spoiler
    Show
    I Am A: Lawful Good Human Ranger (3rd Level)
    Ability Scores
    Strength: 15
    Dexterity: 18
    Constitution: 16
    Intelligence: 16
    Wisdom: 16
    Charisma: 14

  11. - Top - End - #11
    Titan in the Playground
     
    Greenish's Avatar

    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    Finland

    Default Re: Devotion feats:

    Quote Originally Posted by Os1ris09 View Post
    But the mere fact that you can do it on any of your actions including during combat is kinda cheesy.
    That word you keep using. I don't think it means what you think it means.
    Quotes:
    Spoiler
    Show
    Quote Originally Posted by Claudius Maximus View Post
    Also fixed the money issue by sacrificing a goat.
    Quote Originally Posted by subject42 View Post
    This board needs a "you're technically right but I still want to crawl into the fetal position and cry" emoticon.
    Quote Originally Posted by Yukitsu View Post
    I define [optimization] as "the process by which one attains a build meeting all mechanical and characterization goals set out by the creator prior to its creation."
    Praise for avatar may be directed to Derjuin.

  12. - Top - End - #12
    Barbarian in the Playground
     
    Pluto's Avatar

    Join Date
    Dec 2009

    Default Re: Devotion feats:

    Quote Originally Posted by Greenish View Post
    That word you keep using. I don't think it means what you think it means.
    Doesn't it have something to do with dairy?

  13. - Top - End - #13
    Barbarian in the Playground
     
    HalflingRangerGuy

    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Sin City
    Gender
    Male

    Default Re: Devotion feats:

    Probably true since I have not found a definitive definition of cheese. I know pun pun is cheesy and so is the dragonwrought kobold in some fashion. So I recognize the term just haven't found a definition of it yet. In lamens terms I guess it means completely and utterly broken by bending the rules in a ridiculous fashion.

    @ above: ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Last edited by Os1ris09; 2010-05-30 at 05:14 PM. Reason: new post above didnt recognize
    Spoiler
    Show
    Quote Originally Posted by Drascin View Post
    DM: "And now you descend into the mazelike tunnels, where no light save for what magic you bring will illuminate your path, as you search for-"
    Player: "I'm preparing Teleport twice each day."
    DM: "...and there goes the tension by the window"

    Spoiler
    Show
    I Am A: Lawful Good Human Ranger (3rd Level)
    Ability Scores
    Strength: 15
    Dexterity: 18
    Constitution: 16
    Intelligence: 16
    Wisdom: 16
    Charisma: 14

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •