Civ5 GMR 12: Imperialism, ho!

[Illven]

Some of you may be wondering where's the spectator war update.

The truth is, I forgot.

[DodgerH2O]

Spoiler: Inca

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We have a small group of highly skilled warriors headed to the battlefront but our scouting reports indicate your military currently holds its own. If you have need of more troops we will continue towards your lands but if not they will return to the Mayan homeland or stay between our lands ready for trouble in either one.

[Illven]

Spoiler: Spectator war update

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So the war is going less then well.




But we have reinforcements.



They may take some time.



Jamestown's guards protect the villagers.



As some of our reinforcements move.



St.George's guards wait as well.



As does those watching over the savages.




Roanoke island is somewhat worried about what robo-William will do.



One Caravel hunts for prey.







Meanwhile our ground forces fall back to re-group.









Our naval ships wait for the Incas to enter firing range.



And we have trade relations with China!

[Ryuho Tsugu]

With the completion of blueprints for seaworthy vessels suitable for naval combat, the time has come to drive the taint of Protestantism from the New World. Her Highness, Queen Catherine of Portugal, has thus declared war on the colonies of the English and the Dutch, and advises the people of France to stay out of the way.

Spoiler: Spectators: Turn 104 update—46 turns remaining

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Southern front: the Incan city of Tiwanaku, recently occupied by England. I don't expect my forces to hold out against the English here, but if they can act as reinforcements for the Incans and harass the English, that will be good enough.
Off the shores of Porto Seguro: four Ships of the Line against one English nau, two Dutch privateers, and two Dutch frigates. I went with damaging multiple units over focusing fire; I think having more of their units damaged instead of at full strength might be the better option. I purchased a privateer of my own to reinforce this position next turn.
Eastern front: the Dutch cities of New Amsterdam and Curacao. Due to the recent retiring of the Dutch leader, their army is probably scattered all over the place. I hope to take these two cities at least before they arrive.
Northern front: the Dutch cities of Aruba and Sint Eustatius. This is more of a distraction, hopefully to split the Dutch army. Not pictured: a Ship of the Line moving along the west coast to attack Aruba.

[Illven]

So many angry words right now.

[The_Snark]

Surely the English, in their magnanimity, rejoice at the opportunity to civilize someone their own size?

Spoiler: English

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Diplomatic insults aside, if you should wish to withdraw from this war to focus on the defense of your lands proper, we offer you this opportunity. Take it or not, as you please.

Spoiler: Maya

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Indeed; with Portuguese armies joining the fray, the English advance seems to have fallen apart entirely. We thank you for your readiness, though.

[Illven]

OOC. The spectator war update is a little short, because Photobucket is fighting me.

Also due to Ryuho being a hypocrite, I'm going to need to be convinced to not drop.

Spoiler: Inca;The snark

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We uh.... It didn't let us accept your proposal one of the quirks about EUI I guess.

Spoiler: Spectator war update

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So the ******* hypocrite steals my city states before war decing me. Crashing my economy.



I'm not sure I can actually reach them.



Also severing all my trade routes.

Adept scouting. Or blatant cheating. Really either's possible.



Also the Inca's manage to kill some of our troops.






We kill Portugal troops out of spite.



Go to Portugal's capital and sever their trade routes.





We also wait for more Incan troops in our firing ship arc.



Re-capture unit.

[Illven]

After talking to other players and calming down, I'll stay in.

[Ryuho Tsugu]

Also due to Ryuho being a hypocrite, I'm going to need to be convinced to not drop.

[You're going to have to explain this one to me.]

[Illven]

[You're going to have to explain this one to me.]

[You complain about being sneak attacked, and then participate in a 4v1?]

[Ryuho Tsugu]

[You complain about being sneak attacked, and then participate in a 4v1?]

[Yes, because in-game I thought we reached an agreement about settling in that area, and then I got zerg rushed before reaching double-digit GPT. This situation is not at all similar; for one, you've been an aggressor in all but one conflict so far, and for another, we've all had two-thirds of the game to settle in.]

Spoiler: maybe don't read this until the game is over, but your choice

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[Also, I was going to do this regardless of any other in-game conditions; Narkis dropping out at an unfortunate time and you deciding to go to war in the south and getting Spain involved are hardly my fault. I did ask if we should stop to find a replacement for the Dutch.

Or are you saying I shouldn't do something I had been building towards just because you over-extended yourself before I could?]

[Illven]

[I'm sorry. I disagree. What I'm interpreting you as saying, is screw anyone with a unique unit before the renaissance. They should only be allowed to conquer city states, not their neighbors. Am I mis-interpreting?

I also haven't attacked Spain. They just decided to get involved, and I'm like 90% sure gift Incans troops.]

[Another difference to me is attacking you in 13, was part of a plan however loosely it was to win. Get more land, because I don't have enough. Obviously it failed Narkis won that game.

How does attacking me, at all help you to win the game? Because from my side of the screen. I don't think you can.]

[Ryuho Tsugu]

[I'm sorry. I disagree. What I'm interpreting you as saying, is screw anyone with a unique unit before the renaissance. They should only be allowed to conquer city states, not their neighbors. Am I mis-interpreting?

[Didn't we have this conversation last time? I never said it wasn't a valid strategy, but that doesn't mean I can't get frustrated about it and, yes, express that frustration.]

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How does attacking me, at all help you to win the game? Because from my side of the screen. I don't think you can.]

[Maybe it does, maybe it doesn't.]

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[I've had it out for you in this game ever since you got all that bonus VP from reaching China. That's all there is to it.]

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[Now that I've checked the threads for 14 and 15 and seen that you're apparently going to be bringing this into those games as well, I guess I'll leave, because this drama isn't productive or healthy for anyone.]

[Illven]

I dropped so you can come back in

[OrcusMcP]

I'm debating whether to close the game entirely if it's causing so much hurt feelings. These are supposed to be good-natured romps that, while competitive, are at least fun for everyone involved. I'll stop the timer on this one for a bit to see if you want to cool off and come back.

[Illven]

I'm debating whether to close the game entirely if it's causing so much hurt feelings. These are supposed to be good-natured romps that, while competitive, are at least fun for everyone involved. I'll stop the timer on this one for a bit to see if you want to cool off and come back.

That's just going to make me feel worse.

[Ryuho Tsugu]

[I'm dropping out precisely because I don't want this to turn into some huge thing that possibly spills over into other games and darkens the mood on a global scale. Since this has its basis in part in my inability to control my emotions and (later) make clear the difference between in-character and out-of-character actions, I believe I should do my part to nip it in the bud by disengaging from the conflict.

I apologize for my selfishness in this matter, but I will not be returning.]

[OrcusMcP]

Ugh, fine. Since the vast majority of people have left the game I'm abandoning it. Sorry everyone.

[Illven]

Then I'll come back if it'll keep the game up, send me an invite link.