One Piece: Gear IV

[Kato]

I'm wondering what Zoro's doing though. This seems like something he should be in charge of dealing with, rather than leaving it to all the mooks. Hell, I bet he could finish Doflamingo off himself at this point, which would be a faster and more reliable method of ending the birdcage than whatever else he's trying.

He's presumably trying to destroy the cage, somewhere... I'll agree, in logic terms it would make more sense for him to help out with Doffy, but OP doesn't run on logic It runs on Shounen, and there you don't just team up to beat a baddy if you're the main character and his second in command*. From a story telling point of view this makes much more sense.



*exceptions may occur

[Sigh]

Another new episode this week, Luffy and the other horse riders beat down those tin soldiers for the first time, we've gotten to the 500% hilarious scene with Franky kissing the Manager, and Mansherry has been located. Seriously though, we NEED to get some extended fight scenes in here right now so us anime cats don't actually catch up to you manga guys.

Also I like how even cats are affected by Sr. Pink's hard-boiledness.

[Kato]

Another new episode this week, Luffy and the other horse riders beat down those tin soldiers for the first time, we've gotten to the 500% hilarious scene with Franky kissing the Manager, and Mansherry has been located. Seriously though, we NEED to get some extended fight scenes in here right now so us anime cats don't actually catch up to you manga guys.

Also I like how even cats are affected by Sr. Pink's hard-boiledness.

Hm, I guess I really need to check out the anime again...

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Decent chapter even if little new. Zoro seems to have a hard time stopping the cage by himself. And... seastone is indestructible? Ugh, I hate indestructible stuff, it always makes you wonder how you build anything from it

The gladiators are up and fighting again but Oda sets a voluntarily impossible count down which means someone will have to stop the cage, I guess. Or everyone dies. Sure

[lord_khaine]

yeah.. the hardness of seastone is also something i find really, really dumb.

To start with, if its that strong, why dont they make armor or weapons out of it to a larger degree?

Would leave it a lot more easy to swallow if it were just DF powers that could not break it

[LordRahl6]

Hm, I guess I really need to check out the anime again...

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Decent chapter even if little new. Zoro seems to have a hard time stopping the cage by himself. And... seastone is indestructible? Ugh, I hate indestructible stuff, it always makes you wonder how you build anything from it

The gladiators are up and fighting again but Oda sets a voluntarily impossible count down which means someone will have to stop the cage, I guess. Or everyone dies. Sure

yeah there were only a few things new, but those that were BIG DAMN MOMENTS. First the non-spoilery stuff, the Factory is coated in sea prism, yes, but its only indestructible to devil fruit powers. So that's why it isn't being demolished like the rest of Dressrosa. On to the spoilers...

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Fun how Sabo announced that he was Luffy's other brother, and went on to woop Burgess's ass. For some reason on my part this is I've noticed his scar from being shot.

The bit with Flamingo's "awakened" devil fruit power gave me images of Evard's Black Tentacles. Also regarding powers and the non-spoiler above I see no reason why Zoro's Haki enshrouded swords shouldn't be able to break the cage with the Samurai from Wakano's help.

Finally, Loved the bit with fighters from the Tournament and Kyros save the countrymen and women, but what was really FUNNY was how Oda set the dust up, it looks like at least some of it is coming out of Kyros old leg injury.

[DiscipleofBob]

yeah.. the hardness of seastone is also something i find really, really dumb.

To start with, if its that strong, why dont they make armor or weapons out of it to a larger degree?

Would leave it a lot more easy to swallow if it were just DF powers that could not break it

To be fair, the effect of seastone on DF-created constructs (as opposed to DF users) hasn't exactly been consistent. It could still be because the birdcage is a result of DF powers that the seastone can stand up against it.

[Dasgovernator]

To be fair, the effect of seastone on DF-created constructs (as opposed to DF users) hasn't exactly been consistent. It could still be because the birdcage is a result of DF powers that the seastone can stand up against it.

I'm pretty sure that's the exact reason it works.

[Tvtyrant]

yeah.. the hardness of seastone is also something i find really, really dumb.

To start with, if its that strong, why dont they make armor or weapons out of it to a larger degree?

Would leave it a lot more easy to swallow if it were just DF powers that could not break it

I originally thought it was impossibly rare, but it seems like that might not be true now. I sooo want a marine battleship made of seastone.

[lord_khaine]

I originally thought it was impossibly rare, but it seems like that might not be true now. I sooo want a marine battleship made of seastone.

The Marine already coat the bottom of their hulls with it, so they can sail though the monster infested calm belt.

[Tvtyrant]

The Marine already coat the bottom of their hulls with it, so they can sail though the monster infested calm belt.

They have some on the bottom, sure. But think of all the seastone battleships and mechs we are missing out on.

[Kato]

They have some on the bottom, sure. But think of all the seastone battleships and mechs we are missing out on.

Holy ****, Pacifistas made from seastone! Or at least covered with. I think we might have just broken the game (Even if it's not indestructible but only resistant to DF powers... they can just hug their enemies into submission)

[Sigh]

From what I can tell Seastone has approximately the density and toughness of bedrock, which we find that even Zoro had trouble slicing back in the CP-9 saga (back when they were in the underground tunnel, I believe that was made of bedrock). Certainly not indestructible, but much more durable than your average stone.

[DiscipleofBob]

From what I understand, seastone is too rare for the World Government to make entire battleships or robots out of it. What little they can procure they first use to make manacles and basic anti-DF weapons, but even those are reserved for their most important installations or at least the most likely to be hit by DF users.

The factory being made by seastone was a private expenditure by either Doflamingo or Kaidou. Wasteful, definitely. But not exactly something the government has control over given there's a Yonkou and a Shichibukai/World Noble laying claim over it.

If anything it could be a sign that a major factor into seastone' rarity could come from the fact that most sources of it are privately owned by forces too powerful for the world government to push around.

[Maugan Ra]

Yeah, I admit I just kind of assumed that the factory is surviving the 'cage because of the seastone's anti-DF properties, rather than just being ridiculously tough.

Also, I can't help but find Zoro's problem-solving methods deeply amusing. When confronted with a slowly advancing wall of inevitable death, his thought process basically seems to be 'What if I hit it with my swords?'

Really, Zoro is just a case study of a man who addresses all of his problems and overcomes all obstacles with swords in some fashion. He even seems to have mastered several forms of Haki in order to give him new and interesting ways of solving problems with his swords.

[LordRahl6]

Yeah, I admit I just kind of assumed that the factory is surviving the 'cage because of the seastone's anti-DF properties, rather than just being ridiculously tough.

Also, I can't help but find Zoro's problem-solving methods deeply amusing. When confronted with a slowly advancing wall of inevitable death, his thought process basically seems to be 'What if I hit it with my swords?'

Really, Zoro is just a case study of a man who addresses all of his problems and overcomes all obstacles with swords in some fashion. He even seems to have mastered several forms of Haki in order to give him new and interesting ways of solving problems with his swords.

And how is that not inconceivable given what we know about Haki. It was stated early on after its introduction that Haki could both overpower Devil Fruit users/powers and be enshrouded around preexisting weapons.

[Cizak]

Would leave it a lot more easy to swallow if it were just DF powers that could not break it

Isn't this exactly the case? Doflamingo can't cut it cause it nullifies DF powers?

[lord_khaine]

Isn't this exactly the case? Doflamingo can't cut it cause it nullifies DF powers?

But at the same time then Zorro or Franki cant smash it either, so its not just people with a DF power its safe from.

[Lizard Lord]

But at the same time then Zorro or Franki cant smash it either, so its not just people with a DF power its safe from.

I think it is incredibly durable in addition to DF powers not working on it. Mind you Zoro isn't able to cut the strings on Birdcage either.

[lord_khaine]

Yeah.. and that bit shows just what level of power Flamingo is operating on, he does have some very solid arguments for being the strongest opponent Luffy has faced so far.

[ryuplaneswalker]

Yeah.. and that bit shows just what level of power Flamingo is operating on, he does have some very solid arguments for being the strongest opponent Luffy has faced so far.

outside of the Admirals he outright is, the only person who can even come close to Flamingo is Enel, and I doubt he would actually beat Mingo since Mingo can hit Logias, I only say Enel is a competitor for being absurdly powerful cause his Devil Fruit.

[lord_khaine]

outside of the Admirals he outright is, the only person who can even come close to Flamingo is Enel, and I doubt he would actually beat Mingo since Mingo can hit Logias, I only say Enel is a competitor for being absurdly powerful cause his Devil Fruit.

Well yeah, Flamingo would also be a lot less dangerous without his DF..

But yeah.. actually i think in general Enel is the more dangerous of those two, his mastery of his Logia seems in line with the Marine admirals, and his specialisation of Haki is most likely the best counter against other Haki users.

[Sigh]

Another episode out, this one's mostly setup but I have to note how absolutely hilarious it is that Sugar is now deathly afraid of anything resembling Usopp's nose. *insert dirty joke here*

[Kato]

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Not too much going on... everyone working together to stop the cage. Viola going up against Mingo because... she has a death wish? Why won't anyone get Luffy and the princess together already?! Let's hope Mingo doesn't find her first.
And Law plans... something. I think. We'll see.

Of course, the one who should save the country is... Senior Pink.

[ryuplaneswalker]

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Not too much going on... everyone working together to stop the cage. Viola going up against Mingo because... she has a death wish? Why won't anyone get Luffy and the princess together already?! Let's hope Mingo doesn't find her first.
And Law plans... something. I think. We'll see.

Of course, the one who should save the country is... Senior Pink.

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If there is not a spot of Senior Pink walking up behind franky All Menacingly while saying "I served Doffy-Sama for all my life, I gave up everything for him...However your heart has spoken to me..I SHALL AID YOU TO DEFEND THOSE YOU CONSIDER IMPORTANT!" and helping Push back the Bird Cage with his Bare hands, and not caring that his hands are getting sliced by the birdcage...or developing Haki..whichever would be cooler..while EVERYONE not franky stops pushing and says "He is so hard-edged" Including all of the men...Oda fails forever.

moving onto other things

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In before Law Sacrifices himself to Heal luffy..Just before Princess Tontata gets there for maximum "Kick in the nads" levels

ONE MORE THING!

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PINK SAMA? HE IS SO HARD EDGED! *swoon*

[LordRahl6]

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Not too much going on... everyone working together to stop the cage. Viola going up against Mingo because... she has a death wish? Why won't anyone get Luffy and the princess together already?! Let's hope Mingo doesn't find her first.
And Law plans... something. I think. We'll see.

Of course, the one who should save the country is... Senior Pink.

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And they only slowed it down for few seconds?! Though Fujitora and the Nay getting in on the act was pretty good.

[LaZodiac]

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And they only slowed it down for few seconds?! Though Fujitora and the Nay getting in on the act was pretty good.

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A few seconds is all they need.

[lord_khaine]

Not too much going on... everyone working together to stop the cage. Viola going up against Mingo because... she has a death wish? Why won't anyone get Luffy and the princess together already?! Let's hope Mingo doesn't find her first.

Im not sure this could work of the simple reason, that the issue is not Luffy being wounded, but his Haki needing to regenerate after being expended.
It might not be something that can be fixed faster.

[Sigh]

I wonder if Viola's abilities lend her an easy step into learning Observation Haki, as if that's the case it might just buy her enough time to last against Doflamingo until Luffy can recuperate.

[Cyber Punk]

I got that vibe as well. Viola means to buy some time. If Doffy isn't stopped,

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there'd be nothing preventing him from deadifying the sleeping Luffy.

In before Law attempts to sacrifice his life to save Luffy, and/or Luffy doesn't wake up in exactly the time they expect him to.

Also, Doffy's stopped smiling.

[Kato]

Im not sure this could work of the simple reason, that the issue is not Luffy being wounded, but his Haki needing to regenerate after being expended.
It might not be something that can be fixed faster.

Well, it seems to cure all kinds of exhaustion... I guess we still don't know enough about haki to say for sure but I feel it would be weird if there was an extra haki endurance for people. But that's just me.

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PINK SAMA? HE IS SO HARD EDGED! *swoon*

*swoon*

I wonder if Viola's abilities lend her an easy step into learning Observation Haki, as if that's the case it might just buy her enough time to last against Doflamingo until Luffy can recuperate.

I don't think the best observation haki helps here... Mingo's far too fast for her to react even if her ability itself grants her omniscience. She has a better chance hoping for him to talk a few seconds about how disappointed he is rather than fight.