One Piece: Gear IV

[Kato]

Spoiler: Everybody loves Lucy?

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To be frank, I'm not a huge fan of the hero worship, even if it is Lucy. I guess gatz does it more to taunt Mingo and inspire the people than anything else but it's still... it disagrees with the "Luffy is no hero" idea which I actually like.
Viola is getting her **** handed to her and I guess she must be lucky Mingo rather plays with her and Rebecca rather than killing both fast. Just long enough to give Luffy a Big Damn Hero moment.
Sadly, no appearance of Pink. And... what did Law do again?

Also: No OP next week makes Kato something something

[Razade]

Spoiler: Everybody loves Lucy?

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To be frank, I'm not a huge fan of the hero worship, even if it is Lucy. I guess gatz does it more to taunt Mingo and inspire the people than anything else but it's still... it disagrees with the "Luffy is no hero" idea which I actually like.
Viola is getting her **** handed to her and I guess she must be lucky Mingo rather plays with her and Rebecca rather than killing both fast. Just long enough to give Luffy a Big Damn Hero moment.
Sadly, no appearance of Pink. And... what did Law do again?

Also: No OP next week makes Kato something something

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Luffy is a hero though, just because he doesn't feel he is doesn't change the opinions of the people he effects. He's come and saved an entire island. He's going to be a hero to it's people. It'd be weird if they weren't cheering for him.

[Cyber Punk]

Spoiler: Law

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He used shambles to swap the position of Luffy and Violet.

[ryuplaneswalker]

Spoiler: Everybody loves Lucy?

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To be frank, I'm not a huge fan of the hero worship, even if it is Lucy. I guess gatz does it more to taunt Mingo and inspire the people than anything else but it's still... it disagrees with the "Luffy is no hero" idea which I actually like.
Viola is getting her **** handed to her and I guess she must be lucky Mingo rather plays with her and Rebecca rather than killing both fast. Just long enough to give Luffy a Big Damn Hero moment.
Sadly, no appearance of Pink. And... what did Law do again?

Also: No OP next week makes Kato something something

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It is cheesy sure, but the wrestling fan in me was wanting to cheer Lucy's name as the countdown was going down.

There are few moments, as great as than the biggest face in the company gathering energy from the fan's in the crowd.

[chainer1216]

Aaaaand we're back, I pmed a mod and they fixed it up, so lets all make sure to say thank you to Douglas before returning to talking about how corny this chapter was. (It kinda reminded me of afro-Luffy)

[LaZodiac]

Thank you.

This chapter was great because the announcer was basically announcing Luffy like a wrestle announcer...which fits perfectly with how the Colosseum was presented.

[Razade]

People I know are complaining that One Piece is dragging but frankly the pacing of this arc has been amazing. A little sad we won't get a chapter next week but if Oda isn't jerking us around watching Doffy go down in a One Hit K.O is going to be nothing short of the best moment in One Piece.

[Cyber Punk]

One Piece dragging? Is it because of the chapter count? They obviously haven't read Hajime No Ippo.

I agree that the pacing has been amazing, as well. Unlike Bleach, for instance.

watching Doffy go down in a One Hit K.O is going to be nothing short of the best moment in One Piece.

Very well said!

[Dasgovernator]

I get the feeling this arc would be better off being read in a single sitting as opposed to piecemeal over ~2 years.

[ryuplaneswalker]

I get the feeling this arc would be better off being read in a single sitting as opposed to piecemeal over ~2 years.

Over 2 years, since Punk Hazard was effectively tied into this arc as well.

[Razade]

One Piece dragging? Is it because of the chapter count? They obviously haven't read Hajime No Ippo.

I agree that the pacing has been amazing, as well. Unlike Bleach, for instance.

Very well said!

Well, this Saga has taken quite a while to be fair and a few chapters have been a little brief on actual content so I can see where they're coming from but yes compared to other manga like Bleach or Toriko it's nothing.

[Cyber Punk]

Well, this Saga has taken quite a while to be fair and a few chapters have been a little brief on actual content so I can see where they're coming from but yes compared to other manga like Bleach or Toriko it's nothing.

I get the feeling this arc would be better off being read in a single sitting as opposed to piecemeal over ~2 years.

Razade, what Dasgovernator said. It'll make more sense as a whole as opposed to bits and pieces every one week or so.

[Razade]

Razade, what Dasgovernator said. It'll make more sense as a whole as opposed to bits and pieces every one week or so.

I agree, it's not my argument

[Sigh]

Regarding the final blow, I'm not sure why but a few nights ago I had a dream that this final attack would involve Mingo getting megapunched back like 5 times DBZ style until he flew into the ocean, possibly dragging his Birdcage with him as he collides into it from the sheer force of the impacts.

[Tvtyrant]

I think the biggest distinguishing feature of this arc is that the population all know who they are, unlike Alubarna. I will personally be glad when this arc ends, it just failed to strike the right chords for me

[Dasgovernator]

I think the biggest distinguishing feature of this arc is that the population all know who they are, unlike Alubarna. I will personally be glad when this arc ends, it just failed to strike the right chords for me

Well yeah, we're to the part of the world where the World Government can't offer protection to all of the islands. Luffy is clearly taking Dressrosa as his territory after this is over.

[AtlanteanTroll]

Well, that would make two islands his protectorate... Which seems fair. He's on the path to becoming a Yonkou. First Fishman Island, now Dressorosa. I imagine Wano will be next, or wherever Big Mom is stationed. Maybe she's in Wano, who knows. But then there's Kaidou.

I see some complaints of pacing in this arc, but honestly, for me, it's because Oda rushed some things. I haven't really been made sad by One Piece since the time skip, there hasn't been enough time devoted to building the background of characters properly. Where are the tear jerkers?

[LaZodiac]

Well, that would make two islands his protectorate... Which seems fair. He's on the path to becoming a Yonkou. First Fishman Island, now Dressorosa. I imagine Wano will be next, or wherever Big Mom is stationed. Maybe she's in Wano, who knows. But then there's Kaidou.

I see some complaints of pacing in this arc, but honestly, for me, it's because Oda rushed some things. I haven't really been made sad by One Piece since the time skip, there hasn't been enough time devoted to building the background of characters properly. Where are the tear jerkers?

Did you skip Law's flashback entirely or something? Maybe the characters just aren't resonating with you or something.

[lord_khaine]

Well, that would make two islands his protectorate... Which seems fair. He's on the path to becoming a Yonkou. First Fishman Island, now Dressorosa. I imagine Wano will be next, or wherever Big Mom is stationed. Maybe she's in Wano, who knows. But then there's Kaidou.

I kinda doubt Wano will become his protectorate, it has been described as one of the very few islands who could remain independent, due to the extreme strenght of their Samurai.

[Gray Mage]

Did you skip Law's flashback entirely or something? Maybe the characters just aren't resonating with you or something.

Also, Señor Pink's. So hard boiled. *Swoons*

[Tvtyrant]

I actually couldn't get into either of those backgrounds. Not like the crew, who are all extremely tragic.

[Gray Mage]

I actually couldn't get into either of those backgrounds. Not like the crew, who are all extremely tragic.

I'd say Law's more tragic than half the crew.

[Tvtyrant]

I'd say Law's more tragic than half the crew.

Objectively sure. I just never got into his back story.

[ben-zayb]

I actually like plenty of the backstories in this arc. Not necessarily tearjerkers (certainly not Doffy's), but I liked how the stories of Kyros, Law, Señor Pink, and even Doffy were written.

[ryuplaneswalker]

Senor Pink gets double points for being completely unexpected, like go back to when the arc is first starting and say "The guy in a baby bonnet and diapers will have the best backstory of Mingo's crew" and you will get called crazy.

[Kato]

Senor Pink gets double points for being completely unexpected, like go back to when the arc is first starting and say "The guy in a baby bonnet and diapers will have the best backstory of Mingo's crew" and you will get called crazy.

If you tell half the stuff that happens in OP to anyone, you will be called crazy

But... yeah, I'm usually rarely an emotional person, but just in the context of a single story told in one chapter, intercut with fight scenes, Pink's backstory must be among the best chapters of any manga I have ever read. I can't even explain why, but it really worked for me.

(Also, Tvtyrant, a backstory doesn't need to be extremely tragic to be good. With that logic you get things like Elfenlied )

[LaZodiac]

If you tell half the stuff that happens in OP to anyone, you will be called crazy

But... yeah, I'm usually rarely an emotional person, but just in the context of a single story told in one chapter, intercut with fight scenes, Pink's backstory must be among the best chapters of any manga I have ever read. I can't even explain why, but it really worked for me.

(Also, Tvtyrant, a backstory doesn't need to be extremely tragic to be good. With that logic you get things like Elfenlied )

Yeah, Senor Pink's is just...really solid. I even liked Baby 5's backstory, ESPECIALLY when I realized just why she's called Baby 5, considering the context of her back story. Holy crap.

Yeah the last thing we need is more Elfenlied.

[Sigh]

We interrupt this drought of discussion to bring you breaking news! A new episode of the anime has been released, showing us the beginning of Usopp's use of Observation Haki, and taking down Sugar with his face for the second time! It's interesting that Haki use, when untrained, seems to manifest during times of great stress/when an extraordinary feat needs to take place. It really makes you wonder what happened to get Zoro and Sanji to first manifest their Armament Haki (unless you count things like Sanji's fire or Zoro's demon heads as Haki use, which is entirely possible at this point!).

[ryuplaneswalker]

If you tell half the stuff that happens in OP to anyone, you will be called crazy

But... yeah, I'm usually rarely an emotional person, but just in the context of a single story told in one chapter, intercut with fight scenes, Pink's backstory must be among the best chapters of any manga I have ever read. I can't even explain why, but it really worked for me.

(Also, Tvtyrant, a backstory doesn't need to be extremely tragic to be good. With that logic you get things like Elfenlied )

I usually describe One Piece by telling people about Ivankov, now a days I have switched to "it is about Pirates, and a guy who has rubber powers, and there is a guy in a baby bonnet..who is the most awesome person in existence, trust me it is that sort of series"

[lord_khaine]

We interrupt this drought of discussion to bring you breaking news! A new episode of the anime has been released, showing us the beginning of Usopp's use of Observation Haki, and taking down Sugar with his face for the second time! It's interesting that Haki use, when untrained, seems to manifest during times of great stress/when an extraordinary feat needs to take place. It really makes you wonder what happened to get Zoro and Sanji to first manifest their Armament Haki (unless you count things like Sanji's fire or Zoro's demon heads as Haki use, which is entirely possible at this point!).

Zorro's first use of Haki were likely much earlier, during his fight with Mr 1, where he got a brief glimpse of complete awareness and used it to slice the previously invulnerable metal body.
And besides the process of manifesting Haki most likely being much different depending on if you do it out of desperation or by the urgings of a trainer, then i certainly count those things are Haki manifestations.
We have directly seen another Haki user ignite her body in a simular way to Sanji.

I usually describe One Piece by telling people about Ivankov, now a days I have switched to "it is about Pirates, and a guy who has rubber powers, and there is a guy in a baby bonnet..who is the most awesome person in existence, trust me it is that sort of series"

I cannot disagree strongly enough with this part myself though, imo he doesnt even clear his way into the top 10 list of awesome people.