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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord_Asmodeus View Post
    It's all about different perspectives. From certain people's sides of view the situation is "There was a border skirmish with one side perceiving an aggressive movement of troops as being more aggressive than it was and there were some casualties as a result, now the other side is going to burn down everything because their demands were not instantly met" and for them that could certainly cast the other side in a bad light.
    Its as Asmo said. Everything is a matter of perspective. For example, the Dragonborn might approve of Ignus' tactics. But then again, they are a harsh people, so you can expect them to employ harsh tactics. You can twist things from an IC point of view so that both sides have points. In general, conflicts are never clear cut "good vs evil".
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    So, I assume all of the Yuan-ti and lizardfolk and naga die too. I suppose if that pestilence doesn't get countered I can have the Pit Fiend save some of them by using a portal to somewhere else on the prime material.

    Otherwise those species are extinct now.
    sorry. Not countering it.

    Cassandra will be gone, everyone else dies.

    but don't worry. actions have consequences.

    Actually, I need mod ruling on that. Can Cassandra just "NOPE" out? is Ignus Avatar dead? My post will wait on these.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord_Asmodeus View Post
    So, I assume all of the Yuan-ti and lizardfolk and naga die too. I suppose if that pestilence doesn't get countered I can have the Pit Fiend save some of them by using a portal to somewhere else on the prime material.

    Otherwise those species are extinct now.
    Nah, some of them went through the portal.

    Now I'm just waiting for Someone to post IC. So Ignus can revive the Refugees and transport them to Stoixia.

    They died instantly, so it isn't as though they suffered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralasha View Post
    Toxic will have to spend 6 AP to prevent the little refugees, along with all of his lovely trees, from dying.

    No apologies for killing them, more taunts mixed in with explanations accomplishes nothing.

    Someone that is angry does not think clearly. She was going to move everyone, now she'll just kill them.

    Ok Toxic, Since Freedom Fighters are terrorists, and since freedom fighters are heroes. Then the Oklahoma Bomber was a Hero for blowing up schools.
    As far as I understood from your IC post, everything dies on the burning lands. As in not only trees, but also Yuan-Ti, Lizardmen, Naga and Fire Genasi. Was that Ignus' intent?

    Once again, everything depends on perspective, although once again lets try to avoid such line of arguments. We do not want to have the forum mods scrubbing over here.
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    Well if there's no mod objection I'll have the Pit Fiend save some people anyway, worshipers of Yanegrish specifically.

    Considering that will be a relatively small population (and it's not a permanent portal) would that be a non-AP action or could I cover it with a nourishment? Would I need to counter the pestilence to save some of the Lizardfolk, Yuan-ti, and Naga that way?
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    Well I can't have this. I'll work on something by tonight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord_Asmodeus View Post
    Well if there's no mod objection I'll have the Pit Fiend save some people anyway, worshipers of Yanegrish specifically.

    Considering that will be a relatively small population (and it's not a permanent portal) would that be a non-AP action or could I cover it with a nourishment? Would I need to counter the pestilence to save some of the Lizardfolk, Yuan-ti, and Naga that way?
    The way I see things? If you don't spend AP, then you can save a handful of mortals by teleporting them. However any widespread action would require a Nourishment action, or a Create Portal Action. So saving a whole bunch of mortals would require AP.
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    Well I can't have this. I'll work on something by tonight.
    I was just wondering how you would react to this, lol.
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    Could I spend a 1AP Nourishment to save some of them, or would any nourishment to save people from a pestilence like that require a countering of the pestilence (so, 2AP)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shmee View Post
    As far as I understood from your IC post, everything dies on the burning lands. As in not only trees, but also Yuan-Ti, Lizardmen, Naga and Fire Genasi. Was that Ignus' intent?

    Once again, everything depends on perspective, although once again lets try to avoid such line of arguments. We do not want to have the forum mods scrubbing over here.
    Ignus had 'everyone' sent back through the portal in the temple 4 RL days ago. That effectively being any period of time required IC...

    So everyone is now on the copy of the Playground in the Plane of Fire. The Enchantments and buildings still stand. Alkl that happened is living things died, and for a few seconds, the temperature was about that of the surface of the real sun.

    If the Dryad survived it would to have been by fleeing. Ignus' Avatar didn't off herself, so her avatar would survive. So too, probably would the Dryad if she spent AP.

    All life on the island is now gone, the island is sterile. That was my intent. Now ignus can have her people begin replanting plants in the Playground's version of the Burning Lands.

    Hlo is obviously still alive.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord_Asmodeus View Post
    Could I spend a 1AP Nourishment to save some of them, or would any nourishment to save people from a pestilence like that require a countering of the pestilence (so, 2AP)
    Portal Action, or a 6 AP in Nourishments.

    You could Mould land to seperate them from the Burning Lands I would think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralasha View Post
    Ignus had 'everyone' sent back through the portal in the temple 4 RL days ago. That effectively being any period of time required IC...

    So everyone is now on the copy of the Playground in the Plane of Fire. The Enchantments and buildings still stand. Alkl that happened is living things died, and for a few seconds, the temperature was about that of the surface of the real sun.

    If the Dryad survived it would to have been by fleeing. Ignus' Avatar didn't off herself, so her avatar would survive. So too, probably would the Dryad if she spent AP.

    All life on the island is now gone, the island is sterile. That was my intent. Now ignus can have her people begin replanting plants in the Playground's version of the Burning Lands.

    Hlo is obviously still alive.
    Question, with the heat rising to that of our RL Sun, 5778K (127million F/ 15million C)... even for a few seconds, wouldnt that have melted/leveled the whole landscape including buildings, rivers and lakes?

    To get technical about it... would that have caused tsunamis?
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    Question, with the heat rising to that of our RL Sun, 5778K (127million F/ 15million C)... even for a few seconds, wouldnt that have melted/leveled the whole landscape including buildings, rivers and lakes?

    To get technical about it... would that have caused tsunamis?
    If it didn't only effect living things, yes. Absolutely it would.

    Why did it effect only living mortal things? Because that is what it did.

    Yep, keep poking the mother bear whose cubs you just skewered. This time shoot her with a rifle for eating your children. Eating hers is an entirely different thing don't you know?

    Hlo feeds on fire, just like the plants that used to live on the island, and will again. Once I can get IC, I'm bringing back the plants animals and people (other than the murder trees).

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    Could I spend a 1AP Nourishment to save some of them, or would any nourishment to save people from a pestilence like that require a countering of the pestilence (so, 2AP)
    If Ignus had spent 1AP on a Pestilence, then a Nourishment would be enough to counter it. However, considering the amount of Pestilences that Ignus threw, by spending 1AP you could save a chunk of them, but not all unless the AP is matched. IC-wise, its a case that Ignus' fury was just too great to save everyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shmee View Post
    If Ignus had spent 1AP on a Pestilence, then a Nourishment would be enough to counter it. However, considering the amount of Pestilences that Ignus threw, by spending 1AP you could save a chunk of them, but not all unless the AP is matched. IC-wise, its a case that Ignus' fury was just too great to save everyone.
    Yeah the idea was to save the Yanegrish worshipers in the outlying regions, not save all Venom Empire. So I'll get a post to that effect up soon-ish.
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    Yeah the idea was to save the Yanegrish worshipers in the outlying regions, not save all Venom Empire. So I'll get a post to that effect up soon-ish.
    That's what I get for blowing all my AP in one go. The Cosmic Mother will not be pleased about this.
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    That's what I get for blowing all my AP in one go. The Cosmic Mother will not be pleased about this.
    By the way... According to the rules, countering a pestilence costs 2 AP unless it's yours. Also, the Yaunti are alive again. So are the Refugees, but the Murder-Plants aren't. Everyone and everything else is though.

    Another thing... Stuff. You don't keep screwing with a mother that lost her child. Which is what I will be playing Ignus as until Kryokoli is found. She'll kill. She'll feel bad about it, but she'll commit murder.

    Another thing, holes in a body is generally considered mutilated. They were no worse that they had been. But holes in a body does not do well to keep ones organs inside.

    If someone killed my children... I would nuke a city to get at those responsible. Yep. If they were kidnpapped, imagine what I wouldn't do to get them back, if youo are drawing a blank, that is the correct answer. Does this make me psychotic? Most likely. But don't touch my kids and everyone will be happy.
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    I had this planned before I killed everything. Go ahead and be petty.
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    It might cost me 2AP if I was trying to counter your pestilence, but I'm not. Countering it would mean making it not happen, or completely offsetting the effects of it. I'm not trying to do that. I'm just trying to teleport a chunk of one population to a place that is not going to be in a life-killing inferno. The Pit Fiend had no reason to believe that Ralasha would bring everyone back, and besides the Baatezu weren't going to be brought back (especially since ideally she doesn't specifically know they exist)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralasha View Post
    By the way... According to the rules, countering a pestilence costs 2 AP unless it's yours. Also, the Yaunti are alive again. So are the Refugees, but the Murder-Plants aren't. Everyone and everything else is though.

    Another thing... Stuff. You don't keep screwing with a mother that lost her child. Which is what I will be playing Ignus as until Kryokoli is found. She'll kill. She'll feel bad about it, but she'll commit murder.

    Another thing, holes in a body is generally considered mutilated. They were no worse that they had been. But holes in a body does not do well to keep ones organs inside.

    If someone killed my children... I would nuke a city to get at those responsible. Yep. If they were kidnpapped, imagine what I wouldn't do to get them back, if youo are drawing a blank, that is the correct answer. Does this make me psychotic? Most likely. But don't touch my kids and everyone will be happy.
    The rules doesn't state that 2AP is needed in order to counter. If you spend the equal amount of AP, then the Nourishment/Pestilence is countered. (Unless that rule was changed without me realizing it when Tia, Draken and I were writing the rules)

    "•Nourishment: Directly intervenes over a population or area providing a beneficial effect. Can be as small as providing good weather for a particular farm, or as wide spread as curing all illnesses from the entire world. (Example: Raining mana in the desert) Can be countered by the Pestilence action."

    "•Pestilence: Directly intervenes over a population or area by providing harmful effects. Can be as small as cursing a single person to a year of bad luck, or as widespread as causing a cataclysm. (Example: The Plagues of Egypt) Can be countered by the Nourishment action."

    Also don't get me wrong, IC wise, the Cosmic Mother will be pissed off, but OOC wise I'm rubbing my hand in glee. Nothing like an apocalypse to get things going. Best part is, Kryokoli is just doing her own thing. However it does beg the question, why isn't Ignus seeking her daughter?
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    Petty would be paying the paltry 3 AP, saying your stuff never happened, and spending the rest of my AP to ruin everything you built.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shmee View Post
    The rules doesn't state that 2AP is needed in order to counter. If you spend the equal amount of AP, then the Nourishment/Pestilence is countered. (Unless that rule was changed without me realizing it when Tia, Draken and I were writing the rules)

    "•Nourishment: Directly intervenes over a population or area providing a beneficial effect. Can be as small as providing good weather for a particular farm, or as wide spread as curing all illnesses from the entire world. (Example: Raining mana in the desert) Can be countered by the Pestilence action."

    "•Pestilence: Directly intervenes over a population or area by providing harmful effects. Can be as small as cursing a single person to a year of bad luck, or as widespread as causing a cataclysm. (Example: The Plagues of Egypt) Can be countered by the Nourishment action."

    Also don't get me wrong, IC wise, the Cosmic Mother will be pissed off, but OOC wise I'm rubbing my hand in glee. Nothing like an apocalypse to get things going. Best part is, Kryokoli is just doing her own thing. However it does beg the question, why isn't Ignus seeking her daughter?
    Stay home and hope she shows (because that way at least you're there if or when she does) or wander around aimlessly and possibly miss her if she does, with no guarantee of finding her if you go looking.
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    Stay home and hope she shows (because that way at least you're there if or when she does) or wander around aimlessly and possibly miss her if she does, with no guarantee of finding her if you go looking.
    Perhaps so, but that doesn't mean that she can't stick her daughter's picture on a divine milk carton, or hire a Private Eye to investigate her daughter's disappearance... or call the police... the FBI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shmee View Post
    Perhaps so, but that doesn't mean that she can't stick her daughter's picture on a divine milk carton, or hire a Private Eye to investigate her daughter's disappearance... or call the police... the FBI.
    Did anyone In Game spend 2 AP and Create Corrupt Organization FBI?

    Oh, I know. She'll send out the Burning Legion to scour the world, and get killed off by anything out there that's hostile, which is everything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shmee View Post
    Perhaps so, but that doesn't mean that she can't stick her daughter's picture on a divine milk carton, or hire a Private Eye to investigate her daughter's disappearance... or call the police... the FBI.
    I could whip up an NPC to play this role. Hell, we could even use Firestar.. sneaky little shapeshifter that he is.

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    Man walks into your house, you tell him to leave. He shoots your dog. You are the bad guy. Enjoy.

    I feel like... that's a story about me at the moment. Except I then napalmed my house to get rid of him. Granted, the dog was totally a stray, and the man's own dog. But he didn't say anything about that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralasha View Post
    Did anyone In Game spend 2 AP and Create Corrupt Organization FBI?

    Oh, I know. She'll send out the Burning Legion to scour the world, and get killed off by anything out there that's hostile, which is everything.
    She could send representatives to non-hostile races, and see if they would be willing to help. For example, the Metallic dragons or the Aspect of Bahamut might be inclined to help. After all, Ignus did help them during the Draconic Civil war. Or as Hatter said... you could hire a god/avatar to search... or even have Ignus assemble an elite team of adventurers to look for her daughter. You could use it as a plot hook for a campaign.

    I think Ignus is currently suffering from Mother's Grief, thus making some irrational choices. She could be like Catelyn Stark! Just... run away if you hear something about proud lords speaking.
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    *passes ball to Shmee* Im kinda playing on snow princess myths from japan... provided I understand their myths correctly.. either way.. your ball!
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