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2015-05-27, 03:05 AM (ISO 8601)
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No no, the entirety of the game is spent playing along with the villain's masterplan, including the bit where they kill him at the end.
The point at which the main characters deviate from doing what the villain wants them to do is about halfway through the ending cutscene.
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2015-05-27, 06:57 AM (ISO 8601)
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So you get around 6000-8000 memories for hard and around 30k for heroic. Getting thundaja or whatever it is will be pretty easy even if you just do it on hard. This event gives a LOT of orbs by going through the reward tree and some pretty good items (updated wrist guards). Definitely seems worthwhile to do.
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2015-05-27, 09:40 AM (ISO 8601)
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Is it just me, or does Vanille seem to be a super red mage? Black 4, White 5, Support 2, mind and magic in the double digits at level 1. Not that a red mage is all that valuable in FFRK, though: with only two ability slots, it's not like you get much out of being capable on both fronts.
I suppose the real question is this: is Vanille a better healer than Lenna? Because she's not going to outdo Rinoa/Rydia as a black mage.Spoiler: My inventory:
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Originally Posted by Kairos Theodosian
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2015-05-27, 10:10 AM (ISO 8601)
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Definitely not a better healer than Lenna. Rydia only gets up to 3 stars black magic though, so even with a superior magic score Vanille should eventually outclass her. Rinoa still outclasses Vanille as a Black Mage though.
One way Vanille has an advantage over Lenna is she can use support abilities like Boost.
I see Vanille shining brightest in a caster-centric party with a SB that can lower enemy's Resistance.
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2015-05-27, 10:14 AM (ISO 8601)
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Here is a ranking of playable characters by max Mind stat - that's the one that calculates healing. Vanille is a close third after Lenna and Aerith. It's also worth noting that, unlike those two, Vanille can use more powerful black magic and has an offensive SB. She can also use light armor, and has higher Resistance.
As to black mages, here's that ranking. There's a three-way tie for first between Rydia, Rinoa and Terra; Vanille follows immediately after. Vanille's SB is better, in that Rinoa and Terra can only target one character, and none of them carry the debuff rider that Vanille's does. Other than that, though, she's probably not a better black mage than they are.
I'm still using her in place of Rydia, simply because Rydia has failed me one time too many; she does not replace Lenna, because Lenna's regen SB is useful to me.My headache medicine has a little "Ex" inscribed on the pill. It's not a brand name; it's an indicator that it works inside an Anti-Magic Field.
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2015-05-27, 10:22 AM (ISO 8601)
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Ouch. Who'd do a caster-centric party? You'd have to it pretty late in the process, when you can farm orbs for honing abilities (and honing is expensive) to kingdom come. Because maybe it's just me, but mages kinda suck when they run out of ability uses.
Also, just got Warrior of Light. Nifty guy, but (like Vanille) starting at level 1 is a real pain when your already stamina starved. Still trying to find the path to get to that Luneth guy from FFIII.Spoiler: My inventory:
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Originally Posted by Kairos Theodosian
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2015-05-27, 10:29 AM (ISO 8601)
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I'm running a 3-caster party, but I've got several caster abilities at 4-6 uses. The two melee fighters (Cloud and Sephiroth) carry the battles until I get to a boss, and then the casters murderfy the boss. I'm not sure how I'd have killed several bosses on hard without the Black Magic Punch I brought with me. That said, you can probably get by with a single black magic user and a single white mage with an offensive spell or SB.
But a party full of melee seems like it would get stomped on hard.
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2015-05-27, 10:42 AM (ISO 8601)
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Well, yeah. My current party is:
Tyro (Lvl 36 w/ 4* axe, Curaga, Thunder Strike)
Cloud (Level 38 w/ 4* sword, Blizard Strike, Fira Strike)
Josef (Level 33 w/ 4* dagger, Double Cut, Blade Bash)
Rinoa (Level 33 w/ 4* rod, Watera, Thundara)
Lenna (Level 30 w/ 4* staff, Cure, Dia)
And, yeah, the first three cut through normal encounters quickly, while everyone goes all out on bosses.
Looking at the list on page 1, I only have Luneth and Gordon left to acquire of the base cast.Last edited by Calemyr; 2015-05-27 at 11:01 AM.
Spoiler: My inventory:
1 Sentient Sword
1 Jammy Dodger (I was promised tea)
1 Godwin Point.
Originally Posted by Kairos Theodosian
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2015-05-27, 11:20 AM (ISO 8601)
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I've recently replaced my black mage (Terra) with Celes as a second spellblade user. It's working pretty well. I will switch Celes out once she hits 50 not sure what I'll replace em with. Vanille is tempting since they look like they're competing well with Terra for the black mage slot, since I'm using Balamb Guard Armor (light) for Terra anyways. Having 4 melee attackers (Cloud, Wakka, Kain, Celes) makes things go quite quick. For farming hard dailies I usually just give Tyro one of my other 5 star weapons and I can auto battle through them fairly easily.
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2015-05-27, 02:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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2015-05-27, 04:04 PM (ISO 8601)
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I missed out on a lot of the limited time characters when my phone was out of commission for a while. My party is currently around level 26... Cloud, Dark Knight Cecil, Kain, Lenna and Rydia. Actually got my first ever five star relic today - the Zantetsuken, which gets Cloud's attack to 140.
This new event is pretty tough, though. Had trouble getting through Normal. I really want that Thundaja but I'd currently need to clear Normal another 120-odd times to get it. Not sure I have the time or patience for that."Don't think of it as dying," said Death,
"Just think of it as leaving early to avoid the rush."
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2015-05-27, 04:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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My party is Cloud, Kain,Wakka, Rydia, and Lenna. They are all around 28. I managed to get Vanille to 19 with a dozen eggs and I think I am going to use her to replace Wakka (he is the only person I have who still uses a level 2 Weapon)
I don't have any trouble with normal on this event, but I am still losing on hard.
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2015-05-27, 04:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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I'm having trouble on Hard as well, but at least part of that is I chose to replace Josef and Rydia on my team for Snow and Vanille for the duration of this event. So far they're not completely useless but neither are they pulling the weight I need to master Hard, but that's forgivable since they're a good 20 levels below the rest.
I also don't like this event format compared to the others. Oh look, 3 - 5 random bosses in a row when I should be saving my big guns for Anima. Yay.
Is Regen completely underwhelming or is it just bad for this event? Every time I have use Snow use his limit break I don't see any noticeable effect until he's already dead.
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2015-05-27, 06:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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Ouch. Hitting hard is like hitting a break wall. My team is all level 45 (cloud, Kain, sepheroth, rinoa ( leveled her hard to get her there) and Lenna all with 5 star equipment. I can breeze through Normal on autopilot, but I can't get anywhere on hard. Freaking crabs hit my whole team for 1000 every turn. Then its Anima on phase 2, 3, and 4
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2015-05-27, 07:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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Wow, you sure you aren't mixing up Hard and Heroic? I mean I can't beat Hard, but I've made it slightly over halfway, and I have 1 5 star equipment, and then mostly 4 star's and my guys are mid-30's. Can't imagine you're having so much trouble on hard with 10 more levels and far superior equipment.
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2015-05-27, 07:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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Wow, I didn't even know you could encounter Anima outside of the last phase. I'm having better luck with Hard and two of my characters are currently vastly underleveled. If you have 5-star equipment I think you almost have to be on Heroic with those kinds of numbers.
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2015-05-27, 10:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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It's hard, not heroic. I've tried three runs before posting in frustration. My problem might be wrong abilities, bad strategy for anima or both.
I only have thundara (2 star), honed to level 3. Protectga looks impossible to get right now. And I have no idea what people mean by retaliate. I think I'll farm some crystals and buy the right orbs from the previous event while I can.
As for anima, attacks are instantly countered hard by the claws and killing the claws is pointless since they instantly regrow. It takes so much to just kill one claws it doesn't seem worth it.
The random natural of the event might explain why some breeze through while others tear their hair out. According to the wiki you can be forced to fight Anima four times, and the warmech 3 times all in the same run on hard. And each of my three attempts looked pretty much like that.Last edited by Forbiddenwar; 2015-05-27 at 10:43 PM.
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2015-05-27, 10:42 PM (ISO 8601)
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Ret is having one boosted char(Cloud in my case) use Retaliate then having the other chars attack (or double attack!) him so he attacks the lowest % enemy. Also, you're chars will miss so you wont be damaging him and the boss wont counter. Its... Nifty.
I have found if you kill one arm, it wont regen. So I kill the left because it hurts me more, power break the body, hit the body once so it isa lower % then the arm, boost/ret cloud, then have 4 people hit Cloud. It works for me on normal, but I can't reliable get to him on Hard to do it without busting out all my resources on the other fights, and that is a very iffy pain to do. I think ill try it again monday after leveling/gearing some. =( Starting late sucks.
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2015-05-27, 10:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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Bad luck's part of it. Encountering Anima before the final phase is rare. It only just happened to me for the first time. For the record I haven't been able to beat Anima on Hard yet and I have three characters at ~45 and two I'm leveling at ~28. My biggest problem is I have to spend too many resources on the boss fights before Anima.
I only have thundara (2 star), honed to level 3. Protectga looks impossible to get right now. And I have no idea what people mean by retaliate. I think I'll farm some crystals and buy the right orbs from the previous event while I can.
EDIT: Shadow'd. Or Edge'd. Maybe Yuffie'd.Last edited by DiscipleofBob; 2015-05-27 at 10:49 PM.
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2015-05-27, 11:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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I.....I....I'm in love. That's a brilliant strategy. I mean, I really hate abusing bugs, but my god that may be something I might have to do so I can complete hard at least once. Cloud has my retaliate, and I have two copies of double cut, man that could literally be the solution to my issues with a strategy like that. I mean, I'd feel low as hell afterwards having done it, but I mean...Thundaja!!!!!!!! I want it so much. If I could start farming Hard with a strat like that I think I'd take the guilty feelings and just suppress them.
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2015-05-28, 07:10 AM (ISO 8601)
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Have you made any of the break skills yet? They really help. Armor break + two fairly strong abilities from your melee guys will kill an arm (I use drain strike from cloud and double cut from Wakka). After that armor break the body once then start retaliating. If you have appropriate hard hitting SBs from your 5 star weapons you can just ignore the retaliate bit all together. My usual strategy for hard is:
Kill arm as above
Armor break + Status reels (Wakka's second SB) the body.
Attack body with Kain's Lancet then Jump, Wakka double cutting, Cloud drain striking and Celes doing whatever strikes I have left over (I bring water and lightning for her both 4 uses since all the mini bosses are vulnerable to lightning and water).
Use Celes SB (party wide magic protect) after 1 full round of hitting the body. That protects against the AoE near the end.
Do you have bad armor for your guys or something? The arms are hitting my guys in 4 star armor for around 300 damage (150 after power breaking)...so getting hit for 1000 seems way out there.
Also I don't see how retaliate is an exploit. It's exactly like using Reflect and bouncing magic off yourself to hit enemies in pretty much all FF games. I mean I don't recall which game (FF IV or VI I think) where there's a boss that explicitly uses this technique against you. The only difference here is that retaliate is for physical attacks instead of magic ones. I do suppose the fact that it uses the retaliators attack is somewhat different since it can boost your mages melee attacks. That's the only possible "exploit" part.
There's a bigger exploit of using shell on the enemy, then mental breakdown, then shell again to set their Res to 2, which makes pretty much all magic attacks hit for 9999. This doesn't really work yet for physical attacks since there's no armor breakdown skill yet (just armor break which isnt efficient enough to drop their Def all that much).Last edited by Chen; 2015-05-28 at 07:13 AM.
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2015-05-28, 09:37 AM (ISO 8601)
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Is it worth collecting the orbs from Mog? I got a lightning orb so I could get Thunder II (Thundara?) but what of the others? I mainly have minor orbs so no really powerful spells yet other than Water II, Ice II and maybe Fire II. I pretty much have all the trinkets except for the items at 1500.
Otherwise, I'll alternate between farming memories and the usual XP/Gil. I think I got Vanille last night.Last edited by Klaatu B. Nikto; 2015-05-28 at 09:40 AM.
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2015-05-28, 09:41 AM (ISO 8601)
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I'm running the following party through the event on Hard:
Cloud (Front Row, lvl 50, 4* Crystal sword, Genji Shield, Hyper Wrist), with Double Strike and Drain Strike
Sephiroth (Front Row, lvl 50, 5* Gladius+, Diamond Armor, Hyper Wrist), with Double Strike and Blade Bash
Terra (Back Row, lvl 50, 4* Gravity Rod, Genji Helm, Earring), with Fira and Blizzaga
Lenna (Back Row, lvl 45, 4* Light Staff, Summoner's Robe, Angel Ring), with Curaja and Haste
Rydia (Back Row, lvl 50, 5* Ice Whip, 4* Black Cowl+, Earring), with Thundara and Thundaga
For Anima, I focus attacks on the main body. Use Lenna to heal if needed, or Haste Cloud and Rydia when healing isn't vital. Cloud and Sephiroth unload Double Strikes, Terra drops Blizzaga, and Rydia either uses her SB (Shiva), or drops Thundaga and Thundara on the main body.
I get probably 3-4 rounds of attacks in before Anima goes down.
For the Beta Behemoth and the Manasvin Warmech, I focus on hasting Rydia and using Thundara and Thundaga to make quick work of them.
For all of the other encounters, I auto-battle through them, keeping an eye on health levels to see if healing is needed.
When I run into Anima earlier than the final battle, things get a little rough (it's happened 3 times, and I died one of those times), so don't give up on Hard, it's just really rough when you hit Anima more than once (although the rewards are nice).
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2015-05-28, 11:36 AM (ISO 8601)
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I picked up all the summon orbs except greater since they're usually annoying to get. Also picked up all the lesser power orbs since you want a ton of those to hone double strikes, retaliates and 2* elemental strikes. I picked up a few greater orbs but got fed up of doing those events.
The latest event gets you a ton of orbs. It's definitely worth going through even if you can only do normal. You probably won't get thundaja but you can pick up a lot of 3 and 4 star orbs pretty easily.
Focus on finishing the campaign though too. More stamina is always nice if for nothing else than the overnight fill-up. Odds are you'll have bigger gaps during the day too though. I believe max stamina is 100 currently which is 5 hours worth of resting.
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2015-05-31, 12:32 AM (ISO 8601)
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Man I really, really, reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaallllllyyyyyyyyy hope that the next set of 5 star equipment they feature in relic draws is something I want, I now have 85 mythril saved up, and if it is something I want, I'll likely have the other 15 ready to go by that point for 2 full sets of 10(+1) ^^ Going to be my absolute best chance to come out of it with some killer equipment for my guys.
@Chen: Thanks for the info that there is now the ability to reach 100 stamina. The last time I checked the cap was 50 and I figured it couldn't possibly have gone up "that" much, but apparently it has, so I'm going through and doing some elite dungeons and some of the regular dungeons to get my stamina higher!Last edited by Starwulf; 2015-05-31 at 12:35 AM.
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2015-05-31, 01:26 AM (ISO 8601)
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I just got Snow is he worth it? My current party is Kain, Cloud, Rydia, Camille, and Lenna. All around 32. Kain has my only 5star weapon and currently does almost 3 times the damage Cloud does with a 3 star.
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2015-05-31, 07:54 AM (ISO 8601)
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Meh, I think I prefer Josef outside of XIII dungeons. Both have high attack and crap defenses. They use the same kind of weapons, so having a decent fist weapon is a big factor.
As you mentioned above, 5* equipment makes a huge difference in the game. Under more equal circumstances, Cloud should leave Kain and most characters in the dust.
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2015-05-31, 08:43 AM (ISO 8601)
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Spoiler: Next CharacterIf the source I'm using proves to be accurate, Locke will be up next. It'll be another event like Rinoa's with the large dungeon, only this will kind of span the majority off FF6 or at least the parts Locke was/could be a part of.
15 levels. No idea on difficulty level but if it's anything like To Slay A Sorceress, I'd expect a party of late 20's, early 30's should be able to do it.
Elite mastery is a Phoenix summon. O_o WANT!!!
Spoiler: Locke's statsStill looking for raw numbers... Basics are that his attack is respectable but nowhere near the top contenders, but his speed is through the roof.
Confirmed in JP version Locke is fastest in the game. Second is Lightning, Vaan, Tifa, Balthier, Tidus all tied. Attack-wise he's behind Cyan, Tifa, and Snow. But ahead of Warrior of Light, Paladin Cecil, Tidus, and Wakka.
Uses: Dagger, Sword, Throwing
Shield, Hat, Helmet, Light Armor, Robe, Bracer
Combat 4* Support 3* Celerity 5* Thief 5*
SB: Surprise - Damage that doesn't change from the back row. Not sure how that's useful since if you're in the back row it's because you have an ability or weapon to use from there. Still damage is damage I guess.
Special equipment is Rising Sun, a throwing weapon. New SB is Mirage Dive, which hits all enemies and inflicts Slow.
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2015-05-31, 08:51 AM (ISO 8601)
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"Don't think of it as dying," said Death,
"Just think of it as leaving early to avoid the rush."
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2015-06-01, 05:07 PM (ISO 8601)
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I hate the relic system in this game. Just to give you a sense of where I'm coming from, I've got 70 stamina, I have recruited all of the core characters, and my main party is 4/5 into the 40's. I have one 5 star item: the Regal Gown (a robe with no special effects or stat bonuses). Am I out of line for being frustrated by this?
Spoiler: My inventory:
1 Sentient Sword
1 Jammy Dodger (I was promised tea)
1 Godwin Point.
Originally Posted by Kairos Theodosian