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    For those unfamiliar with the term, a gazetteer is a geographic dictionary. Below is a gazetteer of the OotS world. I'm sure it's incomplete and would appreciate any additions or corrections.

    Notes

    1. The links after each entry are where the name is first mentioned in the strips. Additional links are places where further info on that name can be found.

    2.Abbreviations used for non-online sources:
    • "W&XPs Extras" = the map on the last page of War and XPs
    • SS&DT = Snips, Snails, and Dragon Tales
    • SoD = Start of Darkness
    • OoPCs = On the Order of PCs
    • DStP = Don't Split the Party
    • DStP_DE = Don't Split the Party Digital Edition
    • HPGHS = How the Paladin Got His Scar

    3. Some generic terms are used for certain types of features.
    • stream -- any linear waterway, such as rivers, creeks, etc.
    • summit -- any individual high point such as mountains, peaks, etc.
    • range -- any group of mountains or hills
    • road -- any thoroughfare such as streets, lanes, alleys, etc.
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    ~ A ~
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    Ancient Empire empire formerly comprising about half of the Southern Continent, including what is now Gobbotopia and Realm of the Dragon (HPGHS, p 66)
    Anywhere kingdom in the Northern Lands, north of Nowhere 226
    Avenue Street road in Cliffport 337
    Azure City former city-state and major port on the north coast of the Cyan Peninsula in the Southern Lands; now Gobbotopia 204/260/(W&XPs Extras)


    ~ B ~

    Back Alley Road road in Greysky City; location of the Thieves Guild 643
    Badvulf Orcs noncoastal town on the Shtuckout Peninsula (DStP_DE, MBiv)
    Barren Baronies former name of one or all of the three empires (Blood, Sweat, or Tears) 758
    Barrier River stream in the Southern Continent, flowing west from the Division Mountains to the This River (DStP_DE, MBii)
    Bartervault populated place in the Dwarven Lands, southeast of Thane City 1044
    Bleedingham capital city of the Empire of Blood 715
    Blood, Empire of state in the eastern part of the Western Continent, south of the Goaway Mountains, west of Reptilia and the Empire of Tears, north of the Free City of Doom and the Empire of Sweat, northeast of the Great Barren Desert, and east of Eviltopia and Fangland 698
    Blue River stream in the Southern Lands, flowing west from the Southern Mountains to Cobalt Bay (W&XPs Extras)
    Blueriver Fort town and fortress on the upper Blue River 368/(W&XPs Extras)


    ~ C ~

    Cerulean River stream in the western part of the Cyan Peninsula flowing south into Gulf Bay (W&XPs Extras)
    Chøppenvood town in Uptharnorr, on the Fünnee Sound at the mouth of Vahtery River (DStP_DE, MBiv)
    Cliffport major city and port on the western coast of the Northern Lands south of Uptharnorr 337/(DStP_DE, MBiv)
    Cobalt Bay bay on the north side of the Cyan Peninsula (W&XPs Extras)
    Cog Street road in Tinkertown 985
    Concave Mountains range in the Southern Lands, south of the Southern Mountains (W&XPs Extras)
    Cove Bay bay to the east of the Southern Continent (DStP_DE, MBii)
    Crooked Mountain summit in the Redmountain Hills; location of the Dungeon of Dorukan 196
    Cruelvania state in the northern part of the Western Continent, north of the Great Barren Desert, west of Fangland, north of Eviltopia, northeast of T.B.D., Freeland, and Scalya, and south of the Goaway Mountains 680
    Cyan Peninsula peninsula on the west coast of the Southern Lands (W&XPs Extras)


    ~ D ~

    Dark Republic, The state in the southwestern part of the Western Continent, south of West Despotonia, southwest of East Despotonia, north and west of the People's Democratic Dictatorship, and east of The Grisly Coast 698
    Depressed Hills range on the Cyan Peninsula, west of the Concave Mountains, east of the Valley River (W&XPs Extras)
    Despotonia see East Despotonia or West Despotonia
    Dictatoria state in the northern part of the Western Continent, north of the Great Barren Desert, southeast of Scalya, west of Freeland, and east of the sea 680
    Diggfürstoof town in the Molehill Mountains, in the northwest of Uptharnorr, northeast of Pininfürthuh Fjords (DStP_DE, MBiv)
    Division Mountains range in the northern part of the Southern Continent, lying between the Southern Mountains to the east and south, the Wet Sea to the west, and the Northern Continent to the north (DStP_DE, MBii)
    Dragon, Realm of the state in the Southern Lands (SS&DT)/501, panel 9
    Draketooth Pyramid pyramid in the Great Barren Desert, near Windy Canyon; now destroyed 839
    Dungeon of Dorukan fortress on Crooked Mountain in the Redmountain Hills; now destroyed 13
    Dwarven Lands region in the far north of the Northern Lands, in the Summit and Molehill Mountains; inhabited mainly by dwarves 368/1044


    ~ E ~

    East Despotonia state in the southwestern part of the Western Continent, south of the Great Barren Desert, west of the sea, north of the People's Democratic Dictatorship, northeast of the Dark Republic, and east of West Despotonia 680
    Elven Lands area in the Western Continent, northeast of the Goaway Mountains; inhabited mainly by elves 698
    Eviltopia state in the northern part of the Western Continent, south of Cruelvania, southwest of Fangland, west of the Empire of Blood, north of the Great Barren Desert, and east of T.BD. 698


    ~ F ~

    Fangland state in the northern part of the Western Continent, south of the Goaway Mountains, west of the Empire of Blood, northeast of Eviltopia, and east of Cruelvania 698
    Firmament town in Dwarven Lands, northwest of Thane City 1024/1044
    Fissure Gap pass through the Pinnacle Mountains leading to Dwarven Lands 1044
    Fjordünback coastal town on the Pininfürthuh Fjords (DStP_DE, MBiv)
    Free City of Doom city-state in the eastern part of the Western Continent, west of the Empire of Tears, east of the Empire of Sweat, and south of the Empire of Blood; now conquered by the Empire of Tears 698
    Freeland state in the northern part of the Western Continent, southwest of Cruelvania, northeast of T.B.D., north of the Great Barren Desert, and east of Dictatoria and Scalya 698
    Fünnee Sound bay on the west coast of the Northern Lands, northwest of Cliffport (DStP_DE, MBiv)


    ~ G ~

    Gelid Glacier glacier in the far north, north of Dwarven Lands 1044
    Ghostlands state in the Southern Lands, south of Azure City/Gobbotopia (W&XPs Extras)/501, panel 8
    Goaway Mountains range in the Western Continent separating the Elven Lands to the north from more arid lands to the south 698
    Gobblin Hills range in the Northern Lands, over 1000 miles north of Azure City (SoD, p 9)
    Gobbotopia city-state in the Southern Lands; formerly known as Azure City 702
    Gorge Ravine watercourse in the Southern Mountains; also a large hobgoblin outpost located on it (HPGHS, p 20)
    Great Barren Desert large desert in the Western Continent 698
    Great Elven Forest another name for the Elven Lands (OoPCs, p 48)
    Greysky City city in the Northern Lands on the This River, in the northern foothills of the Southern Mountains, about 15 miles from Cove Bay 531/SoD p 78/(DStP_DE, MBii)
    Grisly Coast, The state in the soutwestern part of the Western Continent, south of the Great Barren Desert, west of West Despotonia and the Dark Republic, north of the People's Democratic Dictatorship, and east of the sea 698
    Gulf Bay bay on the south side of the Cyan Peninsula (W&XPs Extras)


    ~ H ~

    Hemorrhage Road road in Bleedingham; location of the Imperial Palace 715
    Hidden Valley valley in the Southern Mountains (W&XPs Extras)
    Hobgoblin City town in the Southern Mountains (W&XPs Extras)/197


    ~ I ~

    Ivyleaf village in Elven Lands; home town of Vaarsuvius 629


    ~ J ~

    Justania former state in the Western Continent; now part of the Empire of Blood 755


    ~ K ~

    Kraagor's Tomb an artificial hill containing a vast warren of dungeons, near the north pole; also known as Monster Hollow 1039


    ~ L ~

    Lair Island island within Cove Bay off the east coast of the Northern Lands (SoD, p 78/DStP_DE, MBii)
    Lickmyorangeballshalfling village in Sunken Valley 568
    Lirian's Glade locality in the Elven Lands; location of one of the rifts in the fabric of the universe (SoD, p 51)


    ~ M ~

    Molehill Mountains sub-range of the Pinnacle Mountains, in the far north, east of the Summit Mountains and north of Uptharnorr 1044/(DStP_DE, MBiv)
    Monster Hollow see Kraagor's Tomb 1039
    Mountain River stream in the Cyan Peninsula, flows south through the Southern Mountains to the Valley River (W&XPs Extras)


    ~ N ~

    Nextdoor town in the Northern Lands (OoPCs, p 43)
    Northern Lands one of two major divisions of the main continent, north of the Southern Mountains; also known as the Northern Continent 724
    Northern Scrublands region in the Northern Lands (SoD, p 83)
    Nottinstory populated place in the Dwarven Lands, east of Thane City 1044
    Nowhere kingdom in the Northern Lands, east of Somewhere and south of Anywhere 226


    ~ P ~

    Passage Pass north-south pass through the Pinnacle Mountains between Firmament and the coast 1044
    Peaked Mountains range in the Northern Lands, probably a sub-range of the Pinnacle Mountains, northeast of Cliffport, east of Uptharnorr (DStP_DE, MBiv)
    People's Democratic Dictatorship state in the soutwestern part of the Western Continent, south of East Despotonia, west and north of the sea, southeast of the Grisly Coast, and east of the Dark Republic 698
    Peripheral Frontier region in between Realm of the Dragon and Azure City (HPGHS, p 8)
    Pininfürthuh Fjords inlets on the west coast of the Northern Lands, northwest of Fünnee Sound (DStP_DE, MBiv)
    Pinnacle Mountains range in the Northern Lands, 2000 miles long 985


    ~ Q ~

    Queen Amontop's Pyramid pyramid in the Sandy Valley (SS&DT)
    Quietus Federation former name of one of the three empires (Blood, Sweat, or Tears) 758


    ~ R ~

    Realm of the Dragon see Dragon, Realm of the
    Redmountain Hills range in the Northern Lands; location of the Dungeon of Dorukan 203
    Reptilia state in the eastern part of the Western Continent, south of the Goaway Mountains, west of the sea, north of the Empire of Tears and east of the Empire of Blood 698
    Road Valley east-west valley in the Cyan Peninsula, south of the Blue River (W&XPs Extras)
    Robinsegg town on the south coast of the Cyan Peninsula at the mouth of the Cerulean River (W&XPs Extras)
    Royal City city in the Northern Lands, capital of That Kingdom (DStP Extras, just after 599)/(DStP_DE, MBiv)


    ~ S ~

    Sandsedge trading entrepot on the south coast of the Western Continent, on the edge of the Great Barren Desert 673
    Sandy Valley valley in the Western Continent; location of Queen Amontop's pyramid (SS&DT)
    Scalya state in the northern part of the Western Continent, southwest of Cruelvania, east of Freeland, north of Dictatoria, southeast of the sea 698
    Shtuckout Peninsula peninsula in Uptharnorr between the Fünnee Sound and the Pininfürthuh Fjords (DStP_DE, MBiv)
    Someplace Else democratic nation in the Northern Lands 226
    Somewhere kingdom in the Northern Lands, west of Nowhere 226
    Southern Lands one of two major divisions of the main continent, bounded on the north by the Southern Mountains and Division Mountains (both of which are considered to be part of the Southern Lands); also known as the Southern Continent 204
    Southern Mountains range in the northern part of Southern Lands. It lies in an arc from the eastern shore near Cove Bay to the northern Cyan Peninsula. 147/(W&XPs Extras)/(DStP_DE p MBii)
    Summit Mountains sub-range of the Pinnacle Mountains, in the far north, west of the Molehill Mountains1044
    Sunken Valley valley in the Southern Lands, southeast of AzureCity/Gobbotopia; location of the Oracle. 324/(W&XPs Extras)
    Sweat, Empire of state in the eastern part of the Western Continent, south of the Empire of Blood, west of the Free City of Doom, north of the sea and east of the Great Barren Desert 698


    ~ T ~

    T.B.D. state in the northern part of the Western Continent, south of Cruelvania, west of Eviltopia, north of the Great Barren Desert, east of Freeland 698
    Tears, Empire of state in the eastern part of the Western Continent, south of Reptilia, west and north of the sea, east of the Free City of Doom, and southeast of the Empire of Blood 698
    Terror, Duchy of former name of one of the three empires (Blood, Sweat, or Tears, most likely the Empire of Blood) 758
    Terrorburg former capital city of Tyrinaria; now Bleedingham 759
    Thane City capital city of the Dwarven Lands 1044
    That Kingdom kingdom and the largest country in the Northern Lands, southeast of Cliffport. Royal City is the capital. (DStP_DE, MBiv)
    This River stream in both the Southern and Northern Lands, flowing north from the Southern Mountains past Greysky City (DStP_DE, MBii)
    Tinkertown city on a volcanic island west and south of the Northern Lands; inhabited mainly by gnomes 956
    Townüpthar capital city of Uptharnorr, located at the head of Fünnee Sound (DStP_de, MBiv)
    Tunnelsburg populated place in the Dwarven Lands, west of Thane City 1044
    Tyrinaria former state in the Western Continent; now the Empire of Blood 131/759


    ~ U ~

    Unprincipled Principalities former name of one or all of the three empires (Blood, Sweat, or Tears) 758
    Uptharnorr country to the north of Cliffport (DStP_DE, MBiv)


    ~ V ~

    Vahtery River stream in Uptharnorr, flowing west from the Peaked Mountains, through Vooden Forest, to Fünnee Sound (DStP_DE, MBiv)
    Valley River stream on the Cyan Peninsula, flows west and south from the Southern Mountains to Gulf Bay (W&XPs Extras)
    Vooden Forest wilderness area in Uptharnorr, east of Fünnee Sound (DStP_DE, MBiv)


    ~ W ~

    Weary Traveller's Inn and Tavern hotel in Somewhere; now destroyed 224
    West Despotonia state in the southwestern part of the Western Continent, south of the Great Barren Desert, west of East Despotonia, north of the Dark Republic, and east of the Grisly Coast 680
    Western Continent the smaller of the two major land masses in the world 643
    Wet Sea body of water west of the Southern Lands (W&XPs Extras)
    Windy Canyon canyon in the Empire of Blood 816
    Wooden Forest wilderness area in the Northern Lands 134


    ~ X ~

    Xykon's Tower fortress in the Southern Mountains, one valley north of Hobgoblin City 148/(DStP_DE, MBii)


    ~ Z ~

    Zenith Peak summit in the Pinnacle Mountains, about 830 miles North by Northeast of Tinkertown 987


    Places with little info

    Deep Rainforest (SoD, p 49)
    Dinosaur Island 392
    Helldeathdoomfire Volcano (SoD, p 16)
    Reddragonsville 497
    Rupture Ravine 988
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    I. Northern Continent
    1. Anywhere
    2. Cliffport
      1. Avenue Street
    3. Dwarven Lands
      1. Bartervault
      2. Firmament
      3. Nottinstory
      4. Thane City
      5. Tunnelsburg
    4. Gelid Glacier
    5. Gobblin Hills
    6. Greysky City
      1. Back Alley Road
    7. Kraagor's Tomb/Monster Hollow
    8. Lair Island
    9. Northern Scrublands
    10. Nowhere
    11. Pinnacle Mountains
      1. Fissure Gap
      2. Molehill Mountains
      3. Passage Pass
      4. Peaked Mountains
      5. Summit Mountains
      6. Zenith Peak
    12. Redmountain Hills
      1. Crooked Mountain
      2. Dungeon of Dorukan
    13. Someplace Else
    14. Somewhere
      1. Weary Traveller's Inn and Tavern
    15. That Kingdom
      1. Royal City
    16. This River
    17. Uptharnorr
      1. Chøppenvood
      2. Diggfürstoof
      3. Fjordünback
      4. Fünnee Sound
      5. Pininfürthuh Fjords
      6. Shtuckout Peninsula
        1. Badvulf Orcs
      7. Townüpthar
      8. Vahtery River
      9. Vooden Forest
    18. Wooden Forest


    II. Southern Continent
    1. Ancient Empire
    2. Concave Mountains
    3. Cyan Peninsula
      1. Cerulean River
      2. Cobalt Bay
      3. Depressed Hills
      4. Gulf Bay
      5. Mountain River
      6. Road Valley
      7. Valley River
    4. Division Mountains
      1. Barrier River
    5. Dragon, Realm of the
    6. Ghostlands
    7. Gobbotopia/Azure City
      1. Blueriver Fort
      2. Robinsegg
    8. Peripheral Frontier
    9. Southern Mountains
      1. Blue River
      2. Gorge Ravine
      3. Hidden Valley
      4. Hobgobblin City
      5. This River
      6. Xykon's Tower
    10. Sunken Valley


    III. Western Continent
    1. Blood, Empire of/Tyrinaria
      1. Bleedingham/Terrorburg
        1. Hemorrhage Road
      2. Draketooth Pyramid
      3. Windy Canyon
    2. Cruelvania
    3. Dark Republic, The
    4. Dictatoria
    5. East Despotonia
    6. Elven Lands/Great Elven Forest
      1. Ivyleaf
      2. Lirian's Glade
    7. Eviltopia
    8. Fangland
    9. Free City of Doom
    10. Freeland
    11. Goaway Mountains
    12. Great Barren Desert
      1. Sandy Valley
      2. Sandsedge
    13. Grisly Coast
    14. People's Democratic Dictatorship
    15. Reptilia
    16. Scalya
    17. Sweat, Empire of
    18. T.B.D.
    19. Tears, Empire of
    20. West Despotonia
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    Great job! I wonder if there's enough information all around to sketch a map... I know we've seen the planet in-comic, but knowing where to put what would be nice.

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    Ooh, this is a neat idea.
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    I agree, this is a great idea!
    Quote Originally Posted by dtilque View Post
    3. Not sure whether to add Dwarven Lands, although I probably should. First mention anyone?
    4. I did not include any entries for things like buildings and institutions (Draketooth pyramid, Imperial Palace in Bleedingham, Warthog's School, etc). Any opinions on whether to include these? I did include street names, though, what few there are.
    5. How dies the format of the list look? Suggestions for improvement?
    Feedback: I think the Dwarven Lands should be added. While it might be that they have separate kingdoms (or whatever), the dwarves in comic seem to talk as if it is all one place. It is essentially the same as the Elven Lands. I think mentioning the "Human Lands" (0084 first mention, if I am not mistaken) might also be an idea. Yes, those lands contain individual countries, but it seems to be the collective name for those lands. (And no, I can't remember the first reference for the Dwarven Lands)

    I also think buldings and institutions of note should be mentioned. Lets face it, iof The Giant names it, there is a very good chance it ias of plot importance.

    Finaly, I like the format. Very easy to find things. However, condensing things via spoiler tags might be a very good idea.

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    The Dwarven Lands are just north of Tinkertown, and the Elven Lands are just north of the Empires of Blood, Sweat, and Tears.
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    I noticed that you call rivers, such as Blue River or Cerulean River, "streams", which is incorrect.

    I suspect you're doing this to avoid "{River} river", but you have this "repeat" issue in other entries: {Street} street, {Bay} bay, etc. I would suggest either not worrying about repeating "river" or dealing with this issue generally:

    Blue River, in the Southern Lands, flows into Cobalt Bay (W&XPs Extras)
    Avenue Street, in Cliffport 337
    Cobalt Bay, on the north side of the Cyan Peninsula (W&XPs Extras)
    Hidden Valley, in the Southern Mountains (W&XPs Extras)

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirKazum View Post
    Great job! I wonder if there's enough information all around to sketch a map... I know we've seen the planet in-comic, but knowing where to put what would be nice.
    No where near that much info, except where maps have already been provided.

    The only planet-wide view I know of is the familicide one. There you can see the Western Continent and the main continent with a narrowish area where the Northern and Southern lands are divided. If you look at the area some distance south of that narrowing on the west side of the Southern Land, you can see the Cyan Peninsula looking much as it does in the map at the end of W&XPs. It has a string of three islands tailing away from it.

    There's the map of the Western Continent here. You can't make out all the names fo the countries on it just by expanding the image. Possibly they could be read if one or more image sharpening algorithms are applied. Has anyone done this?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Lehmann View Post
    I noticed that you call rivers, such as Blue River or Cerulean River, "streams", which is incorrect.

    I suspect you're doing this to avoid "{River} river", but you have this "repeat" issue in other entries: {Street} street, {Bay} bay, etc.
    That's not an error nor is that the reason for it. I was imitating the practice of another gazetteer, which combines all linear bodies of water under the class of "stream". It doesn't matter if they're the mightiest river or the tiniest babbling brook, they're all streams there. That DB doesn't have streets and roads, but I was doing the same for those under "street". Probably should change that to "road", since that's a bit more generic term.

    Along those lines, that site uses "summit" for individual peaks and "range" for groups of them. I didn't follow that but will change it to do so. There are no individual mountains named in OotS, but several ranges.

    However, I'm not going to follow its practice is for "populated places". That DB uses that term for everything from the biggest megapolises to the smallest hamlet. I'm going to keep calling them cities, towns and villages, as appropriate.

    I've decided for now not to add buildings and such. I may change my mind later. I'll also add Dwarven Lands, but not Human Lands,. The latter are too extensive. Elves and dwarves mainly live in relatively small areas while humans live all over the planet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dtilque View Post
    There's the map of the Western Continent here. You can't make out all the names fo the countries on it just by expanding the image. Possibly they could be read if one or more image sharpening algorithms are applied. Has anyone done this?
    I'm pretty sure they can be read just by looking at the online image, actually, but it's not needed: the version in the BRitF print edition is legible. If you don't have a copy I can give you the names from mine, if you specify which ones you can't make out.
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    My favorites on the map are 'TBD' and '???'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ti'esar View Post
    I'm pretty sure they can be read just by looking at the online image, actually, but it's not needed: the version in the BRitF print edition is legible. If you don't have a copy I can give you the names from mine, if you specify which ones you can't make out.
    Never thought to look at the paper version. But even with that, my crappy eyesight (even with glasses) makes it kind of hard to read. It would help if I had a magnifying glass, but I don't have one handy.

    Of those I couldn't make out before, I see The Grisly Coast down in the south, Freeland, Fangland, and Eviltopia up in the north. But still can't make out the country north of Dictatoria.
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    But still can't make out the country north of Dictatoria.
    Scalya. Probably another reptile nation.
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    Scalya. Probably another reptile nation.
    Thanks. I'll add them tomorrow. It's late and I'm tired here.
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    It's fun how a new index appears every now and then. I always think "Another index? We don't need that!", but then I read it and change my mind to "Yes we needed this so much!"

    This is awesome.

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    It's fun how a new index appears every now and then. I always think "Another index? We don't need that!", but then I read it and change my mind to "Yes we needed this so much!"

    This is awesome.
    Thank you. I agree with you that many of the index threads are fairly useless. Not all of them; some have been useful at times. I'm glad you consider mine among the latter.

    I added the Western Continent countries I was missing. The introductory article needs to be rewritten, but not tonight. I also will probably add buildings and castles and so forth that are not within cities. But again, not tonight.

    ETA: I also modified the entry for Cliffport.
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    For some reason I feel it'd be funnier if it was Despotania, East and Despotania, West because they sorta "belong" together.

    Kinda did it with Empires of Sweat/Blood/Tears, which inversely I kinda think could be the other way.... I know inconsistent!

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    For some reason I feel it'd be funnier if it was Despotania, East and Despotania, West because they sorta "belong" together.

    Kinda did it with Empires of Sweat/Blood/Tears, which inversely I kinda think could be the other way.... I know inconsistent!
    For the first issue, that's an issue that geographers don't have a single answer to. For instance, North Korea is listed both as "Korea, North" and as "North Korea" in various references. Which way they do it is purely up the preference of the compiler.

    But for both issues, these are Burlew's jokes, and I don't feel obligated to repeat them.

    Progress report:

    I've updated both the intro article and the gazetteer. For the latter, I've

    • added buildings that are outside of cities. Not sure if I should add the Bleedingham galdiator arena. It's about a mile or so outside Bleedingham.
    • added a couple other places I came across: Terrorburg, Crooked Mountain
    • added Zenith Peak from the latest strip


    One issue came up: there's several names formerly used for the Empires of Blood, Sweat & Tears: The Duchy of Terror, The Barren Baronies. the Quietus Federation, The Unprincipled Principalities. The problem is that we don't know which names go with which empire. Not sure how to handle this. Suggestions?
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    One issue came up: there's several names formerly used for the Empires of Blood, Sweat & Tears: The Duchy of Terror, The Barren Baronies. the Quietus Federation, The Unprincipled Principalities. The problem is that we don't know which names go with which empire. Not sure how to handle this. Suggestions?

    Put them under "Places with little info".

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    Cooked Mountain summit in the Redmountain Hills, location of the Dungeon of Durokan 196
    Should be “Crooked”.

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    Zenith Peak summit in the Pinnacle Mountains, about 830 miles NNW of Tinkertown 987
    Should be NNE. (Well, technically the vampire says “north by northeast”, which is not an actual compass direction.)
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    Not now, but it was back in the Age of Sail.

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    I was wondering if it might make sense to also to a geographical listing. That is, instead of sorting the whole thing purely alphabetically, dividing up into continents first, then do a listing per continent? Obviously it wouldn't be 100% geographic (you'd need to draw a map for that) but this way the different regions would be more "grouped".

    Would that be possible at all or does it have too few advantages and too many disadvantages to be worth it?
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    Put them under "Places with little info".
    The problem is they have too much info for that category. I meant that list to be for places where we have a name but no idea where it goes. With these, we have a good idea where they go but not quite exactly,

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    Not now, but it was back in the Age of Sail.
    Don't think so. The direction meant is either Northeast by North or North Northeast. The Wikipage on points of the compass has an old compass card (a couple centuries old, at least) with those two on them, but not North by Northeast.


    Qaanol, thanks for the corrections. For some reason I misread Northeast as Northwest. That would give North by Northwest, the name of the Hitchcock movie, which apparently is based on a Hamlet quote (which I was unaware of before a discussion in the strip thread.)
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    The old sailing directions had 24 positional courses, each about 15 degrees apart. So you had North, North by Northwest, Northwest by North, Northwest, etc. As compasses got better and sextants replaced backstaffs, that's when thing were redone in a more consistent, scientific format. Although navigation wouldn't become really precise until Nathaniel Bowditch made the scene (read up on him; it's fascinating).

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    The old sailing directions had 24 positional courses, each about 15 degrees apart. So you had North, North by Northwest, Northwest by North, Northwest, etc. As compasses got better and sextants replaced backstaffs, that's when thing were redone in a more consistent, scientific format. Although navigation wouldn't become really precise until Nathaniel Bowditch made the scene (read up on him; it's fascinating).
    Fair enough. I suppose I should change the direction. But note that theOotSverse does have sex taints, er, I mean sax tents, er ... well you know what I mean. Also they have carts o' gophers... so it seems they have advanced navigation.
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    I figure that's part of Rich's ongoing mockery of D&Disms, like how the weapons and armor tables have items from different millenia together as currently for sale.

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    I was wondering if it might make sense to also to a geographical listing. That is, instead of sorting the whole thing purely alphabetically, dividing up into continents first, then do a listing per continent? Obviously it wouldn't be 100% geographic (you'd need to draw a map for that) but this way the different regions would be more "grouped".

    Would that be possible at all or does it have too few advantages and too many disadvantages to be worth it?
    It's not a bad idea and I'll consider doing it, but not now.

    Someone upthread suggested that I put the list in a spoiler block. That's not a bad idea either. The only reason I haven't done it is aesthetics. The green background the spoiler blocks have is just plain ugly. I don't want my list contaminated by it. However, if I do add lists sorted by region, I'll put them in spoiler blocks, probably in the post I have reserved for future use.

    Anyway, I've updated the list: Rupture Ravine from the current strip (in the places with little info list) and the four former names of the empires. Also added a link after Hobgoblin City to strip 197. It doesn't say it explicitly, but I'd be very surprised of that town in the last panel is not Hobgoblin City.

    Another potential addition that I'm not sure about is Royal City. This is from an extra in DStP between 599 and 600. The Dirt Farmer and his wife are visiting it. With that name, it's probably the capital of a kingdom, although from the readings from the pamphlet the Wife has, it may not be a capital but rather a historical site like Jamestown Settlement in Virginia. Since the OotS went to the Inn immediately after the Dirt Farmer arc, and the Inn was in Somewhere, it's very likely the Dirt Farmer lives in Somewhere. Which means they may be visiting the captial of Somewhere, but it's not 100% certain. Any thoughts on whether and how to add this one?
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    I'd recommend adding it, at least, as it appears to exist as a location within the OOTS world.
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    Somehow, I didn't see this thread earlier. This looks like a pretty cool project!

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    I'd recommend adding it, at least, as it appears to exist as a location within the OOTS world.
    Yes, but how should I describe it? You guys never give me help on this kind of thing. Which is just as important as whether to add it.
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