Gazetteer of the Stick

[dtilque]

For those unfamiliar with the term, a gazetteer is a geographic dictionary. Below is a gazetteer of the OotS world. I'm sure it's incomplete and would appreciate any additions or corrections.

Notes

1. The links after each entry are where the name is first mentioned in the strips. Additional links are places where further info on that name can be found.

2. Abbreviations used for sources:

• W&XPs Extras = the map on the last page of War and XPs
• SS&DT = Snips, Snails, and Dragon Tales
• SoD = Start of Darkness
• OoPCs = On the Order of PCs
• DStP = Don't Split the Party
• DStP_DE = Don't Split the Party Digital Edition
• BM<roman numeral> = Bonus Material page number at end of DStP_DE
• HPGHS = How the Paladin Got His Scar
• SC = map of Southern Continent on page 50 of Good Deeds Gone Unpunished
• NC = map of Northern Continent on page after 1131 of Utterly Dwarfed
• WC = map of the Western Continent on strip 698
• 1044 = navagation chart of the Dwarven Lands on strip 1044

3. Some generic terms are used for certain types of features.

• stream -- any linear waterway, such as rivers, creeks, etc.
• summit -- any individual high point such as mountains, peaks, etc.
• range -- any group of mountains or hills
• road -- any thoroughfare such as streets, lanes, alleys, etc.

4. The map of Üptharrnor (Uptharnorr) on page iv of DStP_DE is sufficiently different from Üppentharnorth in the Northern Continent map that the former is ignored in this gazetteer.

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~ A ~

Ancient City town in the Redscale Mountains in western Realm of the Dragon (SC)
Ancient Empire empire formerly comprising about half of the Southern Continent, including what is now Gobbotopia and Realm of the Dragon (HPGHS, p 66)
Anywhere kingdom in the Northern Lands, northwest of Nowhere (226, NC)
Area Expanse large region in eastern Northern Continent (NC)
Avenue Street road in Cliffport 337
Azure City former city-state and major port on the north coast of the Cyan Peninsula in the Southern Lands; now Gobbotopia 204/260/(W&XPs Extras)
Azurite Territory country in the northwest of the Southern Continent (SC)

~ B ~

Back Alley Road road in Greysky City; location of the Thieves Guild 643
Badvulf Orcs noncoastal town on the Shtuckout Peninsula (DStP_DE, MBiv)
Bae Bay arm of the Wet Sea, south of the Northern Continent, east of the Southern Continent (NC)
Barren Baronies former name of one or all of the three empires (Blood, Sweat, or Tears) 758
Barrier River stream in the Southern Continent, flowing west from the Division Mountains to the This River (DStP_DE, MBii)
Bartervault populated place in the Dwarven Lands, southeast of Thane City (1044)
Basin River large river draining the southern third of the Southern Continent, including the Peripheral Frontier (SC)
Blackscale Swamp swamp in southern Realm of the Dragon, surrounding the lower reaches of an <unnamed> river (SC)
Bleedingham capital city of the Empire of Blood 715
Blood, Empire of state in the eastern part of the Western Continent, south of the Goaway Mountains, west of Reptilia and the Empire of Tears, north of the Free City of Doom and the Empire of Sweat, northeast of the Great Barren Desert, and east of Eviltopia and Fangland (WC)
Bluescale Desert desert in northern Realm of the Dragon (SC)
Blue River stream in the Southern Lands, flowing west from the Southern Mountains to Cobalt Bay (W&XPs Extras)
Blueriver Fort town and fortress on the upper Blue River 368/(W&XPs Extras)
Bork Bork Bork coastal town in Üppentharnorth, on the Loud Sound (NC)
Byebye Highlands range of hills in southern Monarch Kingdom (NC)

~ C ~

Cerulean River stream in the western part of the Cyan Peninsula flowing south into Gulf Bay (W&XPs Extras)
Chøppenvood town in Üppentharnorth, up river from Townüpthar (NC)
Clawclaw Bay inlet of the Marine Ocean extending into Realm of the Dragon (SC)
Cliffport major city-state and port on the western coast of the Northern Lands 337/(NC)
Cobalt Bay bay on the north side of the Cyan Peninsula (W&XPs Extras)
Cog Street road in Tinkertown 985
Concave Mountains range in the Southern Lands, south of the Southern Mountains (W&XPs Extras)
Cove Bay bay to the east of the Southern Continent (DStP_DE, MBii)
Creepy Sound inlet of the sea from Gulf Bay (SC)
Crooked Mountain summit in the Redmountain Hills; location of the Dungeon of Dorukan 196
Cruelvania state in the northern part of the Western Continent, north of the Great Barren Desert, west of Fangland, north of Eviltopia, northeast of T.B.D., Freeland, and Scalya, and south of the Goaway Mountains 680
Cuddlytown captial city of Halfling Lands, located on the Happy River (NC)
Cyan Peninsula peninsula on the west coast of the Southern Lands (W&XPs Extras)

~ D ~

Dark Republic, The state in the southwestern part of the Western Continent, south of West Despotonia, southwest of East Despotonia, north and west of the People's Democratic Dictatorship, and east of The Grisly Coast (WC)
Deadsburg capital city of the Ghostlands, located at the head of Creepy Sound (SC)
Depressed Hills range on the Cyan Peninsula, west of the Concave Mountains, east of the Valley River (W&XPs Extras)
Desert Barony arid region in western Monarch Kingdom (NC)
Despotonia see East Despotonia or West Despotonia
Dictatoria state in the northern part of the Western Continent, north of the Great Barren Desert, southeast of Scalya, west of Freeland, and east of the sea 680
Digfürstoof mountain town in the far north of Üppentharnorth (NC)
Division Mountains range in the northern part of the Southern Continent, lying between the Southern Mountains to the east and south, the Wet Sea to the west, and the Northern Continent to the north (DStP_DE, MBii)
Dragon, Realm of the very large state in the eastern Southern Lands, south of the Raja Kingdom (SS&DT)/501, panel 9
Draketooth Pyramid pyramid in the Great Barren Desert, near Windy Canyon; now destroyed 839
Draketown town in the Realm of the Dragon, at the mouth of the Lung River (SC)
Dungeon of Dorukan fortress on Crooked Mountain in the Redmountain Hills; now destroyed 13
Dwarven Lands region in the far north of the Northern Lands, in the Summit and Molehill Mountains; inhabited mainly by dwarves 368/(1044)

~ E ~

East Despotonia state in the southwestern part of the Western Continent, south of the Great Barren Desert, west of the sea, north of the People's Democratic Dictatorship, northeast of the Dark Republic, and east of West Despotonia 680
Elven Lands area in the Western Continent, northeast of the Goaway Mountains; inhabited mainly by elves (WC)
Eviltopia state in the northern part of the Western Continent, south of Cruelvania, southwest of Fangland, west of the Empire of Blood, north of the Great Barren Desert, and east of T.BD. (WC)

~ F ~

Fangland state in the northern part of the Western Continent, south of the Goaway Mountains, west of the Empire of Blood, northeast of Eviltopia, and east of Cruelvania (WC)
Finder's Keep town in southeast Monarch Kingdom (NC)
Firmament town in Dwarven Lands, northwest of Thane City 1024/(1044)
Fissure Gap pass through the Pinnacle Mountains leading to Dwarven Lands (1044)
Fluvial River major stream flowing southwest from the Molehill and Vertical Mountains, through Pond Lake, to the Wet Sea at Cliffport (NC)
Fork River river flowing west to east in the Raja Kingdom (implied SC)
Fort Wyvern town in the Realm of the Dragon, on the Lung River (SC)
Free City of Doom city-state in the eastern part of the Western Continent, west of the Empire of Tears, east of the Empire of Sweat, and south of the Empire of Blood; now conquered by the Empire of Tears (WC)
Freeland state in the northern part of the Western Continent, southwest of Cruelvania, northeast of T.B.D., north of the Great Barren Desert, and east of Dictatoria and Scalya (WC)
Fugative Harbor inlet on Cove Bay (NC)

~ G ~

Gelid Glacier glacier in the far north, north of Dwarven Lands, northwest of Thane City (1044, NC)
Gentleville town in southwestern Halfling lands (NC)
Ghostlands state in the Southern Lands, south of Azure City/Gobbotopia (W&XPs Extras)/501, panel 8
Goaway Mountains range in the Western Continent separating the Elven Lands to the north from more arid lands to the south (WC)
Gobblin Hills range in the Northern Lands, over 1000 miles north of Azure City (SoD, p 9)
Gobbotopia city-state in the Southern Lands; formerly known as Azure City 702
Gorge Ravine watercourse in the Southern Mountains; also a large hobgoblin outpost located on it (HPGHS, p 20)
Great Barren Desert large desert in the Western Continent (WC)
Great Elven Forest another name for the Elven Lands (OoPCs, p 48)
Greysky City city-state in the Northern Lands on the This River, in the northern foothills of the Southern Mountains, about 15 miles from Cove Bay 531/SoD p 78/(DStP_DE, MBii/NC)
Greenscale Forest forest in southwestern Realm of the Dragon, surrounding the upper reaches of an <unnamed> river (SC)
Griffonburg town in far northeast of the Northern continent (NC)
Grisly Coast, The state in the soutwestern part of the Western Continent, south of the Great Barren Desert, west of West Despotonia and the Dark Republic, north of the People's Democratic Dictatorship, and east of the sea (WC)
Gulf Bay large bay on the west side of the Southern Continent, south of the Cyan Peninsula (W&XPs Extras, SC)

~ H ~

Halfling Lands country in the southwest of the Northern Continent, south of Monarch Kingdom and east of Somewhere (NC)
Happy River stream in the Halfling Lands, flowing southwest from the Bye-Bye Mountains and then east to Snugglers' Cove (NC)
Haunted Woods woodland in northeast Ghostlands (SC)
Hemorrhage Road road in Bleedingham; location of the Imperial Palace 715
Here country in the Northern Continent, on Bae Bay, southeast of Somewhere, northwest of There (NC)
Heroes' Cape cape on a large peninsula in Üppentharnorth (NC)
Hidden Valley valley in the Southern Mountains (W&XPs Extras)
Hobgoblin City or Hobgoblin Town town in the Southern Mountains (W&XPs Extras/197/SC)
Horizontal Plains plains in northern Area Expanse, south of Vertical Mountains (NC)

~ I ~

Independenton town in the Peripheral Frontier, west of Settlerville (SC)
Ivyleaf village in Elven Lands; home town of Vaarsuvius 629

~ J ~

Justania former state in the Western Continent; now part of the Empire of Blood 755
Justha Tip cape at the southernmost point of the Southern Continent (SC)

~ K ~

Kraagor's Tomb an artificial hill containing a vast warren of dungeons, near the north pole; also known as Monster Hollow 1039
Keep Castle town in the far west of Raja Kingdom (SC)
Keyhidden Island large island in the Marine Ocean, southwest of the Southern Continent (SC)

~ L ~

Lair Island island within Cove Bay off the east coast of the Northern Lands (SoD, p 78/DStP_DE, MBii)
Left Fields plains in Monarch Kingdom, southwest of Timber Woods (NC)
Leftfork River river in Raja Kingdom, tributary to the Fork River (SC)
Lickmyorangeballshalfling village in Sunken Valley 568
Linnormopolis town in the far south of the Realm of the Dragon, on the Marine Ocean coast (SC)
Lirian's Glade locality in the Elven Lands; location of one of the rifts in the fabric of the universe (SoD, p 51)
Littoral Coast coast lands southeast of Port Harborage in the Raja Kingdom (SC)
Lost City of Losers town in the Rainforest Jungle (SC)
Lung River stream in the Realm of the Dragon, flowing from the Redscale Mountains to Clawclaw Bay (SC)

~ M ~

Mapgaptopia region south of the Realm of the Dragon, west and north of the Marine Ocean, east of the Peripheral Frontier (SC)
Marine Ocean body of water southwest of the Southern Continent (SC)
Middle town in central Nowhere (NC)
Molehill Mountains sub-range of the Pinnacle Mountains, in eastern Dwarven Lands (1044, NC)
Monarch Kingdom kingdom and the largest country in the Northern Lands, located in the west-central part of the continent. Royal City is the capital. (NC)
Monster Hollow see Kraagor's Tomb 1039
Mountain River stream in the Cyan Peninsula, flows south through the Southern Mountains to the Valley River (W&XPs Extras)

~ N ~

New Draconis capital of Realm of the Dragon, located on the Lung River (SC)
Nextdoor town in the Northern Lands (OoPCs, p 43)
Nondescript Isle large island off the east coast of the Northern Continent (NC)
Northern Continent one of two major divisions of the main continent, north of the Southern Mountains; also known as the Northern Lands 724
Northern Scrublands region in the Northern Lands (SoD, p 83)
Nottinstory populated place in the Dwarven Lands, east of Thane City
Nowhere kingdom in the Northern Lands, east of Somewhere and southeast of Anywhere (226, NC)

~ O ~

Other Sea body of water southeast of the Northern Continent and north of the Southern Continent (SC, NC)

~ P ~

Passage Pass north-south pass through the Pinnacle Mountains between Firmament and the coast (1044)
People's Democratic Dictatorship state in the soutwestern part of the Western Continent, south of East Despotonia, west and north of the sea, southeast of the Grisly Coast, and east of the Dark Republic (WC)
Peripheral Frontier region in between Realm of the Dragon and Azure City (HPGHS, p 8)
Pinnacle Mountains east-west range in the northern Northern Lands, almost 2000 miles long 985
Plain Fields plains in southern Area Expanse (NC)
Pond Lake lake in central Monarch Kingdom, fed and drained by the Fluvial River (NC)
Port Harborage capital of the Raja Kingdom, at the mouth of the Fork River (SC)

~ Q ~

Queen Amontop's Pyramid pyramid in the Sandy Valley (SS&DT)
Quietus Federation former name of one of the three empires (Blood, Sweat, or Tears) 758

~ R ~

Rainforest Jungle large forested land in the south of the Southern Continent (SoD p 49, SC)
Raja Kingdom country on the northeast coast of the Southern Continent, north of the Realm of the Dragon, east of Azurite Territory (SC)
Random Encounter Islands chain of islands off the Cyan Peninsula (SC)
Realm of the Dragon see Dragon, Realm of the
Reddragonsville town in northeastern Northern Continent, in the foothills of the Molehill Mountains (497, NC)
Redmountain Hills range in the Northern Lands, in the center of Area Expanse; location of the Dungeon of Dorukan (203, NC)
Redscale Mountains range in western Realm of the Dragon (SC)
Redundance (1) town in southern Monarch Kingdom on the Happy River; (2) town in the very south of the Northern Continent on the Wherever River (NC)
Reptilia state in the eastern part of the Western Continent, south of the Goaway Mountains, west of the sea, north of the Empire of Tears and east of the Empire of Blood (WC)
Right fields plains in Monarch Kingdom, northeast of Timber Woods (NC)
Rightfork River river in Raja Kingdom, tributary to the Fork River (SC)
Road Valley east-west valley in the Cyan Peninsula, south of the Blue River (W&XPs Extras)
Robinsegg town on the south coast of the Cyan Peninsula at the mouth of the Cerulean River (W&XPs Extras)
Royal City capital of Monarch Kingdom, located on the Fluvial River near the outflow of Pond Lake (DStP Extras, page after 599)/(NC)

~ S ~

Sandsedge trading entrepot on the south coast of the Western Continent, at the edge of the Great Barren Desert 673
Sandy Valley valley in the Western Continent; location of Queen Amontop's pyramid (SS&DT)
Scalya state in the northern part of the Western Continent, southwest of Cruelvania, east of Freeland, north of Dictatoria, southeast of the sea (WC)
Seaboard Coast the eastern coast of the Northern Continent, north of the Standard Bog (NC)
Semi Colony town in far south of the Southern Continent, close to the mouth of the Basin River (SC)
Settlerville town in the Peripheral Frontier, east of Independenton (SC)
Sneak Peek Peaks range in southwestern Southern Continent, a coastal range west of Rainforest Jungle (SC)
Sungglers' Cove inlet of Bae Bay, at the mouth of the Happy River (NC)
Solid Sea frozen body of water north of the Northern Continent, surrounding the North Pole (NC)
Someplace Else democratic city-state in the southeast of the Northern Lands, at the mouth of the Wherever River (226, NC)
Somewhere kingdom in the Northern Lands, on Snuggler's Cove, east of Halfling Lands, west of Here (226, NC)
Southern Continent one of two major divisions of the main continent, bounded on the north by the Southern Mountains and Division Mountains (both of which are considered to be part of the Southern Lands); also known as the Southern Lands (204, SC)
Southern Mountains range in the northern part of Southern Lands. It lies in an arc from the eastern shore near Cove Bay to the northern Cyan Peninsula. 147/(W&XPs Extras)/(DStP_DE p MBii)
Straight Channel straight between the Northern Continent and Nondescript Isle (NC)
Standard Bog swamp along the lower reaches of the Waterway River in eastern Area Expanse (NC)
Striped Taiga region in northwest Northern Continent, between Üppentharnorth and Waiza Tundra (NC)
Submergia undersea town in the Marine Ocean, west of the Southern Continent, south of the Random Encounter Islands (SC)
Summit Mountains sub-range of the Pinnacle Mountains, in western Dwarven Lands (1044, NC)
Sunken Valley valley in the Southern Lands, southeast of Azure City/Gobbotopia; location of the Oracle 324/(W&XPs Extras)
Sweat, Empire of state in the eastern part of the Western Continent, south of the Empire of Blood, west of the Free City of Doom, north of the sea and east of the Great Barren Desert (WC)

~ T ~

T.B.D. state in the northern part of the Western Continent, south of Cruelvania, west of Eviltopia, north of the Great Barren Desert, east of Freeland (WC)
Tears, Empire of state in the eastern part of the Western Continent, south of Reptilia, west and north of the sea, east of the Free City of Doom, and southeast of the Empire of Blood (WC)
Terror, Duchy of former name of one of the three empires (Blood, Sweat, or Tears, most likely the Empire of Blood) 758
Terrorburg former capital city of Tyrinaria; now Bleedingham 759
Thane City capital city of the Dwarven Lands (1044)
There country in the far south of Northern Continent, southeast of Here (NC)
This River stream in both the Southern and Northern Lands, flowing north from the Southern Mountains past Greysky City (DStP_DE, MBii)
Those Woods forest in southeastern Area Expanse, immediately north of Nowhere (NC)
Timber Woods forest in Monarch Kingdom, between Left Plains and Right Plains (NC)
Tinkertown city on a volcanic island west and south of the Northern Lands; inhabited mainly by gnomes 956
Toofar Steppes region in the northeast Area Expanse, south of Griffonsburg (NC)
Townüpthar capital city of Üppentharnorth, at the mouth of <unnamed> River (NC)
Tunnelsburg populated place in the Dwarven Lands, west of Thane City (1044)
Tyrinaria former state in the Western Continent; now the Empire of Blood 131/759

~ U ~

Unpopular Mountain isolated summit in Waiza Tundra (NC)
Unprincipled Principalities former name of one or all of the three empires (Blood, Sweat, or Tears) 758
Üppentharnorth country in the northwestern part of the Northern Continent (NC)

~ V ~

Valley River stream on the Cyan Peninsula, flows west and south from the Southern Mountains to Gulf Bay (W&XPs Extras)
Vertical Heights range in northern Area Expanse, east and south of the Fluvial River, north of the Horizontal Plains (NC)
Very Estuary large estuary where the Basin River flows into the ocean (SC)

~ W ~

Waiza Tundra region in the far northwest of the Northern Continent, beyond Striped Taiga (NC)
Waterway River stream in eastern Area Expanse, flowing south through the Wooden Forest, then east through Standard Bog to its mouth on the Other Sea (NC)
Weary Traveller's Inn and Tavern hotel in southern Area Expanse, northwest of Anywhere; now destroyed (224, NC)
West Despotonia state in the southwestern part of the Western Continent, south of the Great Barren Desert, west of East Despotonia, north of the Dark Republic, and east of the Grisly Coast 680
Western Continent the smaller of the two major land masses in the world 643
Wet Sea body of water west of the Northern Continent, northwest of the Southern Continent, north of the Random Encounter Islands (W&XPs Extras, NC, SC)
Which Woods forest in Someplace Else (NC)
Whitescale Mountains range in northwestern Realm of the Dragon (SC)
Windy Canyon canyon in the Empire of Blood 816
Wish University town in Here, on Bae Bay (NC)
Wooden Forest wilderness area in eastern Area Expanse (134, NC)

~ X ~

Xykon's Tower fortress in the Southern Mountains, one valley north of Hobgoblin City 148/(DStP_DE, MBii)

~ Z ~

Zenith Peak summit in the Pinnacle Mountains, about 830 miles North by Northeast of Tinkertown 987


Places with little info

Dinosaur Island 392
Helldeathdoomfire Volcano (SoD, p 16)
Rupture Ravine 988

[dtilque]

I. Northern Continent

1. Anywhere
2. Cliffport
   
   1. Avenue Street
3. Dwarven Lands
   
   1. Bartervault
   2. Firmament
   3. Nottinstory
   4. Thane City
   5. Tunnelsburg
4. Gelid Glacier
5. Gobblin Hills
6. Greysky City
   
   1. Back Alley Road
7. Kraagor's Tomb/Monster Hollow
8. Lair Island
9. Northern Scrublands
10. Nowhere
11. Pinnacle Mountains
    
    1. Fissure Gap
    2. Molehill Mountains
    3. Passage Pass
    4. Peaked Mountains
    5. Summit Mountains
    6. Zenith Peak
12. Redmountain Hills
    
    1. Crooked Mountain
    2. Dungeon of Dorukan
13. Someplace Else
14. Somewhere
    
    1. Weary Traveller's Inn and Tavern
15. That Kingdom
    
    1. Royal City
16. This River
17. Uptharnorr
    
    1. Chøppenvood
    2. Diggfürstoof
    3. Fjordünback
    4. Fünnee Sound
    5. Pininfürthuh Fjords
    6. Shtuckout Peninsula
       
       1. Badvulf Orcs
    7. Townüpthar
    8. Vahtery River
    9. Vooden Forest
18. Wooden Forest

II. Southern Continent

1. Ancient Empire
2. Concave Mountains
3. Cyan Peninsula
   
   1. Cerulean River
   2. Cobalt Bay
   3. Depressed Hills
   4. Gulf Bay
   5. Mountain River
   6. Road Valley
   7. Valley River
4. Division Mountains
   
   1. Barrier River
5. Dragon, Realm of the
6. Ghostlands
7. Gobbotopia/Azure City
   
   1. Blueriver Fort
   2. Robinsegg
8. Peripheral Frontier
9. Southern Mountains
   
   1. Blue River
   2. Gorge Ravine
   3. Hidden Valley
   4. Hobgobblin City
   5. This River
   6. Xykon's Tower
10. Sunken Valley

III. Western Continent

1. Blood, Empire of/Tyrinaria
   
   1. Bleedingham/Terrorburg
      
      1. Hemorrhage Road
   2. Draketooth Pyramid
   3. Windy Canyon
2. Cruelvania
3. Dark Republic, The
4. Dictatoria
5. East Despotonia
6. Elven Lands/Great Elven Forest
   
   1. Ivyleaf
   2. Lirian's Glade
7. Eviltopia
8. Fangland
9. Free City of Doom
10. Freeland
11. Goaway Mountains
12. Great Barren Desert
    
    1. Sandy Valley
    2. Sandsedge
13. Grisly Coast
14. People's Democratic Dictatorship
15. Reptilia
16. Scalya
17. Sweat, Empire of
18. T.B.D.
19. Tears, Empire of
20. West Despotonia

[SirKazum]

Great job! I wonder if there's enough information all around to sketch a map... I know we've seen the planet in-comic, but knowing where to put what would be nice.

[ti'esar]

Ooh, this is a neat idea.

[kgato503]

I agree, this is a great idea!

3. Not sure whether to add Dwarven Lands, although I probably should. First mention anyone?
4. I did not include any entries for things like buildings and institutions (Draketooth pyramid, Imperial Palace in Bleedingham, Warthog's School, etc). Any opinions on whether to include these? I did include street names, though, what few there are.
5. How dies the format of the list look? Suggestions for improvement?

Feedback: I think the Dwarven Lands should be added. While it might be that they have separate kingdoms (or whatever), the dwarves in comic seem to talk as if it is all one place. It is essentially the same as the Elven Lands. I think mentioning the "Human Lands" (0084 first mention, if I am not mistaken) might also be an idea. Yes, those lands contain individual countries, but it seems to be the collective name for those lands. (And no, I can't remember the first reference for the Dwarven Lands)

I also think buldings and institutions of note should be mentioned. Lets face it, iof The Giant names it, there is a very good chance it ias of plot importance.

Finaly, I like the format. Very easy to find things. However, condensing things via spoiler tags might be a very good idea.

[Xihirli]

The Dwarven Lands are just north of Tinkertown, and the Elven Lands are just north of the Empires of Blood, Sweat, and Tears.

[Tom Lehmann]

I noticed that you call rivers, such as Blue River or Cerulean River, "streams", which is incorrect.

I suspect you're doing this to avoid "{River} river", but you have this "repeat" issue in other entries: {Street} street, {Bay} bay, etc. I would suggest either not worrying about repeating "river" or dealing with this issue generally:

Blue River, in the Southern Lands, flows into Cobalt Bay (W&XPs Extras)
Avenue Street, in Cliffport 337
Cobalt Bay, on the north side of the Cyan Peninsula (W&XPs Extras)
Hidden Valley, in the Southern Mountains (W&XPs Extras)

[dtilque]

Great job! I wonder if there's enough information all around to sketch a map... I know we've seen the planet in-comic, but knowing where to put what would be nice.

No where near that much info, except where maps have already been provided.

The only planet-wide view I know of is the familicide one. There you can see the Western Continent and the main continent with a narrowish area where the Northern and Southern lands are divided. If you look at the area some distance south of that narrowing on the west side of the Southern Land, you can see the Cyan Peninsula looking much as it does in the map at the end of W&XPs. It has a string of three islands tailing away from it.

There's the map of the Western Continent here. You can't make out all the names fo the countries on it just by expanding the image. Possibly they could be read if one or more image sharpening algorithms are applied. Has anyone done this?

I noticed that you call rivers, such as Blue River or Cerulean River, "streams", which is incorrect.

I suspect you're doing this to avoid "{River} river", but you have this "repeat" issue in other entries: {Street} street, {Bay} bay, etc.

That's not an error nor is that the reason for it. I was imitating the practice of another gazetteer, which combines all linear bodies of water under the class of "stream". It doesn't matter if they're the mightiest river or the tiniest babbling brook, they're all streams there. That DB doesn't have streets and roads, but I was doing the same for those under "street". Probably should change that to "road", since that's a bit more generic term.

Along those lines, that site uses "summit" for individual peaks and "range" for groups of them. I didn't follow that but will change it to do so. There are no individual mountains named in OotS, but several ranges.

However, I'm not going to follow its practice is for "populated places". That DB uses that term for everything from the biggest megapolises to the smallest hamlet. I'm going to keep calling them cities, towns and villages, as appropriate.

I've decided for now not to add buildings and such. I may change my mind later. I'll also add Dwarven Lands, but not Human Lands,. The latter are too extensive. Elves and dwarves mainly live in relatively small areas while humans live all over the planet.

[ti'esar]

There's the map of the Western Continent here. You can't make out all the names fo the countries on it just by expanding the image. Possibly they could be read if one or more image sharpening algorithms are applied. Has anyone done this?

I'm pretty sure they can be read just by looking at the online image, actually, but it's not needed: the version in the BRitF print edition is legible. If you don't have a copy I can give you the names from mine, if you specify which ones you can't make out.

[Rogar Demonblud]

My favorites on the map are 'TBD' and '???'.

[dtilque]

I'm pretty sure they can be read just by looking at the online image, actually, but it's not needed: the version in the BRitF print edition is legible. If you don't have a copy I can give you the names from mine, if you specify which ones you can't make out.

Never thought to look at the paper version. But even with that, my crappy eyesight (even with glasses) makes it kind of hard to read. It would help if I had a magnifying glass, but I don't have one handy.

Of those I couldn't make out before, I see The Grisly Coast down in the south, Freeland, Fangland, and Eviltopia up in the north. But still can't make out the country north of Dictatoria.

[ti'esar]

But still can't make out the country north of Dictatoria.

Scalya. Probably another reptile nation.

[dtilque]

Scalya. Probably another reptile nation.

Thanks. I'll add them tomorrow. It's late and I'm tired here.

[Murk]

It's fun how a new index appears every now and then. I always think "Another index? We don't need that!", but then I read it and change my mind to "Yes we needed this so much!"

This is awesome.

[dtilque]

It's fun how a new index appears every now and then. I always think "Another index? We don't need that!", but then I read it and change my mind to "Yes we needed this so much!"

This is awesome.

Thank you. I agree with you that many of the index threads are fairly useless. Not all of them; some have been useful at times. I'm glad you consider mine among the latter.

I added the Western Continent countries I was missing. The introductory article needs to be rewritten, but not tonight. I also will probably add buildings and castles and so forth that are not within cities. But again, not tonight.

ETA: I also modified the entry for Cliffport.

[snowblizz]

For some reason I feel it'd be funnier if it was Despotania, East and Despotania, West because they sorta "belong" together.

Kinda did it with Empires of Sweat/Blood/Tears, which inversely I kinda think could be the other way.... I know inconsistent!

[dtilque]

For some reason I feel it'd be funnier if it was Despotania, East and Despotania, West because they sorta "belong" together.

Kinda did it with Empires of Sweat/Blood/Tears, which inversely I kinda think could be the other way.... I know inconsistent!

For the first issue, that's an issue that geographers don't have a single answer to. For instance, North Korea is listed both as "Korea, North" and as "North Korea" in various references. Which way they do it is purely up the preference of the compiler.

But for both issues, these are Burlew's jokes, and I don't feel obligated to repeat them.

Progress report:

I've updated both the intro article and the gazetteer. For the latter, I've

• added buildings that are outside of cities. Not sure if I should add the Bleedingham galdiator arena. It's about a mile or so outside Bleedingham.
• added a couple other places I came across: Terrorburg, Crooked Mountain
• added Zenith Peak from the latest strip

One issue came up: there's several names formerly used for the Empires of Blood, Sweat & Tears: The Duchy of Terror, The Barren Baronies. the Quietus Federation, The Unprincipled Principalities. The problem is that we don't know which names go with which empire. Not sure how to handle this. Suggestions?

[Mad Humanist]

One issue came up: there's several names formerly used for the Empires of Blood, Sweat & Tears: The Duchy of Terror, The Barren Baronies. the Quietus Federation, The Unprincipled Principalities. The problem is that we don't know which names go with which empire. Not sure how to handle this. Suggestions?

Put them under "Places with little info".

[Qaanol]

Typos:

Cooked Mountain summit in the Redmountain Hills, location of the Dungeon of Durokan 196

Should be “Crooked”.

Zenith Peak summit in the Pinnacle Mountains, about 830 miles NNW of Tinkertown 987

Should be NNE. (Well, technically the vampire says “north by northeast”, which is not an actual compass direction.)

[Rogar Demonblud]

Not now, but it was back in the Age of Sail.

[Lissou]

I was wondering if it might make sense to also to a geographical listing. That is, instead of sorting the whole thing purely alphabetically, dividing up into continents first, then do a listing per continent? Obviously it wouldn't be 100% geographic (you'd need to draw a map for that) but this way the different regions would be more "grouped".

Would that be possible at all or does it have too few advantages and too many disadvantages to be worth it?

[dtilque]

Put them under "Places with little info".

The problem is they have too much info for that category. I meant that list to be for places where we have a name but no idea where it goes. With these, we have a good idea where they go but not quite exactly,

Not now, but it was back in the Age of Sail.

Don't think so. The direction meant is either Northeast by North or North Northeast. The Wikipage on points of the compass has an old compass card (a couple centuries old, at least) with those two on them, but not North by Northeast.


Qaanol, thanks for the corrections. For some reason I misread Northeast as Northwest. That would give North by Northwest, the name of the Hitchcock movie, which apparently is based on a Hamlet quote (which I was unaware of before a discussion in the strip thread.)

[Rogar Demonblud]

The old sailing directions had 24 positional courses, each about 15 degrees apart. So you had North, North by Northwest, Northwest by North, Northwest, etc. As compasses got better and sextants replaced backstaffs, that's when thing were redone in a more consistent, scientific format. Although navigation wouldn't become really precise until Nathaniel Bowditch made the scene (read up on him; it's fascinating).

[dtilque]

The old sailing directions had 24 positional courses, each about 15 degrees apart. So you had North, North by Northwest, Northwest by North, Northwest, etc. As compasses got better and sextants replaced backstaffs, that's when thing were redone in a more consistent, scientific format. Although navigation wouldn't become really precise until Nathaniel Bowditch made the scene (read up on him; it's fascinating).

Fair enough. I suppose I should change the direction. But note that theOotSverse does have sex taints, er, I mean sax tents, er ... well you know what I mean. Also they have carts o' gophers... so it seems they have advanced navigation.

[Rogar Demonblud]

I figure that's part of Rich's ongoing mockery of D&Disms, like how the weapons and armor tables have items from different millenia together as currently for sale.

[dtilque]

I was wondering if it might make sense to also to a geographical listing. That is, instead of sorting the whole thing purely alphabetically, dividing up into continents first, then do a listing per continent? Obviously it wouldn't be 100% geographic (you'd need to draw a map for that) but this way the different regions would be more "grouped".

Would that be possible at all or does it have too few advantages and too many disadvantages to be worth it?

It's not a bad idea and I'll consider doing it, but not now.

Someone upthread suggested that I put the list in a spoiler block. That's not a bad idea either. The only reason I haven't done it is aesthetics. The green background the spoiler blocks have is just plain ugly. I don't want my list contaminated by it. However, if I do add lists sorted by region, I'll put them in spoiler blocks, probably in the post I have reserved for future use.

Anyway, I've updated the list: Rupture Ravine from the current strip (in the places with little info list) and the four former names of the empires. Also added a link after Hobgoblin City to strip 197. It doesn't say it explicitly, but I'd be very surprised of that town in the last panel is not Hobgoblin City.

Another potential addition that I'm not sure about is Royal City. This is from an extra in DStP between 599 and 600. The Dirt Farmer and his wife are visiting it. With that name, it's probably the capital of a kingdom, although from the readings from the pamphlet the Wife has, it may not be a capital but rather a historical site like Jamestown Settlement in Virginia. Since the OotS went to the Inn immediately after the Dirt Farmer arc, and the Inn was in Somewhere, it's very likely the Dirt Farmer lives in Somewhere. Which means they may be visiting the captial of Somewhere, but it's not 100% certain. Any thoughts on whether and how to add this one?

[ti'esar]

I'd recommend adding it, at least, as it appears to exist as a location within the OOTS world.

[Jaxzan Proditor]

Somehow, I didn't see this thread earlier. This looks like a pretty cool project!

[dtilque]

Re: Royal City

I'd recommend adding it, at least, as it appears to exist as a location within the OOTS world.

Yes, but how should I describe it? You guys never give me help on this kind of thing. Which is just as important as whether to add it.