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    Khajiit Speak is the best mod.

    Also, it has a line when you go to the college and ask for entry, when you give the smart ass response where you go "This one must become arch mage in two weeks or this one will lose a bet." and that's just pure gold.
    Huh, now I have to play a Khajiit again, just to experience this mod!
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    Khajiit Speak is the best mod.

    Also, it has a line when you go to the college and ask for entry, when you give the smart ass response where you go "This one must become arch mage in two weeks or this one will lose a bet." and that's just pure gold.
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    I'm at level 73 or so on my Dunmer Vampire Ninja Bacon Wizard, so I guess I fall into the 'way too high a level' camp. But I view Skyrim more as an exercise in polishing than a narrative to be completed. I'm basically ready to finish the main quest, I've just been putting it off while I do stuff like find every Standing Stone, collect Barenziah's hat, learn every Thu'um, claim every Daedric artifact, etc. I've been putting off going to Solstheim, should I do that before or after I dispose of Alduin?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Jackal View Post
    I'm at level 73 or so on my Dunmer Vampire Ninja Bacon Wizard, so I guess I fall into the 'way too high a level' camp. But I view Skyrim more as an exercise in polishing than a narrative to be completed. I'm basically ready to finish the main quest, I've just been putting it off while I do stuff like find every Standing Stone, collect Barenziah's hat, learn every Thu'um, claim every Daedric artifact, etc. I've been putting off going to Solstheim, should I do that before or after I dispose of Alduin?
    Makes more sense, IMO, if you do it after. Miraak sends the assassins after you after you complete the main quest, so you have a motivation to go there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Landis963 View Post
    Makes more sense, IMO, if you do it after. Miraak sends the assassins after you after you complete the main quest, so you have a motivation to go there.
    He sends them after you very early on in the main quest, but only after you're level 25, pretty sure. I think it's when you go for the horn of Jurgen Windcaller.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Temotei View Post
    He sends them after you very early on in the main quest, but only after you're level 25, pretty sure. I think it's when you go for the horn of Jurgen Windcaller.
    They're sent after you as soon as you visit the Greybeards the first time. There's no minimum level I've ever run into.
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    25 it's guaranteed. there's a small chance of them showing up before then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dhavaer View Post
    They're sent after you as soon as you visit the Greybeards the first time. There's no minimum level I've ever run into.
    Yep, I invariably encounter them in Ivarstead when I come back down from my first trip up the mountain. May be as early as level 7 or thereabouts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by veti View Post
    Yep, I invariably encounter them in Ivarstead when I come back down from my first trip up the mountain.
    Their first attempt to kill me was at my front door to Proudspire Manor when I got up in the morning to do a quest. I was around level 16.

    It was kind of funny to step out and there they are, like they're Miraak's Witnesses.
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    I find it pretty hilarious that Miraak's cultists are categorically less of a threat than the hired thugs that come after me. Partially is the mod I have that boosts the armor cap to 90%, which wouldn't seem to make much difference, but it really does. Not that crossbows, or magic care in the slightest.

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    That's probably the mod then. The cultists were much more of a problem for me than the hired thugs.

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    So, I picked up Skyrim from the Steam Sale today, and downloaded mostly bugfix mods so far. Are there any Project Nevada-level must-have mods for Skyrim?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mando Knight View Post
    So, I picked up Skyrim from the Steam Sale today, and downloaded mostly bugfix mods so far. Are there any Project Nevada-level must-have mods for Skyrim?
    Definitely grab SkyUI if you haven't already. The regular UI is... workable, but SkyUI is just so much better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mando Knight View Post
    So, I picked up Skyrim from the Steam Sale today, and downloaded mostly bugfix mods so far. Are there any Project Nevada-level must-have mods for Skyrim?
    Along with the previously mentioned SkyUI, have you gotten the unofficial patches (1 for the main game and 1 for each DLC)?

    At some point, you will likely want Live Another Life so you don't have to play the very long tutorial every time you start a new game.

    Immersive Armors and Immersive Weapons add so many options to the game. If you get them, also snag Complete Crafting Overhaul, which makes crafting armor and weapons so much better.

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    It is entirely possible - and enjoyable - to play Skyrim with no mods at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feytalist View Post
    It is entirely possible - and enjoyable - to play Skyrim with no mods at all.
    Well, yes. But when you've played the heck out of it on the 360 (which my wife and I both have), mods add a nice change.
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    I regret never getting the UI fix. I'm less sure about the bug fixes. They fix some stuff but break other stuff is what I've read. I didn't experience any serious bugs in my massive playthroushould so I'm inclined to think they're unecessary.

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    I found Skyrim unplayable without the UI fix. I really wish cross-platform programmers would realize how obnoxious a console UI is when you're on a PC. "Why can't I click here? I can move my cursor RIGHT HERE, but when I click HERE it moves to THERE because it assumes I'm using a console despite being loaded on my PC?"
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    One of the most annoying ones was when you're clicking on the sub categories in the inventory. Clicking on the O in ARMOR works, but if you click on the middle of it? WOOPS! You clicked outside of the inventory so clearly you wanted to exit it!

    And the strange limitation of Favorited Quick buttons to 8 numbers instead of the obvious 10 that are available.

    That's about all really. I got used to it and by the time I learned about the UI fix I was more tempted to just complete the game as entirely Vanilla. Fairly certain I made the wrong decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Hall View Post
    I found Skyrim unplayable without the UI fix. I really wish cross-platform programmers would realize how obnoxious a console UI is when you're on a PC. "Why can't I click here? I can move my cursor RIGHT HERE, but when I click HERE it moves to THERE because it assumes I'm using a console despite being loaded on my PC?"
    Simple UX consult doesn't even cost all that much even for a multimillion-dollar program of work.

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    Clicking on the O in ARMOR works, but if you click on the middle of it? WOOPS!
    That happens to me in dialogs, often resulting in the game selecting a choice other than what I wanted.
    I've accidentally flipped off so many Nords. D:
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    Quote Originally Posted by DigoDragon View Post
    That happens to me in dialogs, often resulting in the game selecting a choice other than what I wanted.
    I've accidentally flipped off so many Nords. D:
    Oh yes this. I ended up getting the dialogue and message box fix mods and life was SO much better after that. I was resistant to getting SkyUI myself at first, because I knew once I started to add mods, it would never end. Well it's technically ended for the most part, now I just keep updated (to a point), but mostly I'm done with anything else. Then again, I've hit my computer's limit on what's still playable and enjoyable, so I'm hovering at about 95-100 mods active. Mostly they're small and I probably could merge a few, but I like having the ability to tweak ONE thing at a time, rather than having to deal with creation kit to turn off/on that ONE thing that I'm kind of iffy about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DigoDragon View Post
    That happens to me in dialogs, often resulting in the game selecting a choice other than what I wanted.
    I've accidentally flipped off so many Nords. D:
    Oh, by the Nine, the ****ing dialog! I'd forgotten the dialog!

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    Oh, by the Nine, the ****ing dialog! I'd forgotten the dialog!

    Console controls suck horribly when you're not limited to a console's controls.
    +1 this. I've handed over my gold to theives I wanted to kill because of this issue, and it's even worse during dramatic quest dialog when I pick the wrong response. -_- Sure, I can load my last save and do it over, but the drama dies either way.

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    +1 this. I've handed over my gold to theives I wanted to kill because of this issue
    You can hit ESC and cancel out of the dialog. Then you can murder to your heart's content! :D

    Granted that's not helpful to any other dialog situation...
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    I find this all very odd. I also play on the pc, without any mods (as I mentioned), and have never had any problems with inventory, dialogue or option screens.

    I'm destined to be the odd one out on this particular topic, it seems.
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    I just got Skyrim on the Steam Summer Sale.

    I started my first playthough. Upon entering Riverwood, I killed a chicken.

    I died almost instantly. In confusion, I looked the Riverwood Chicken up online.

    Lesson: Chickens are holy creatures in Skyrim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feytalist View Post
    I find this all very odd. I also play on the pc, without any mods (as I mentioned), and have never had any problems with inventory, dialogue or option screens.

    I'm destined to be the odd one out on this particular topic, it seems.
    Most of the problems come up when I use my mouse to navigate instead of my arrow keys. Which do you use?
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Great Wyrm View Post
    I just got Skyrim on the Steam Summer Sale.

    I started my first playthough. Upon entering Riverwood, I killed a chicken.

    I died almost instantly. In confusion, I looked the Riverwood Chicken up online.

    Lesson: Chickens are holy creatures in Skyrim.
    It's amusing how much video game logic takes over. You wouldn't really think to murder a real-life chicken in full view of its owners while passing through town and expect a bemused glance and an offer of a quest, right?

    Apparently in Skyrim everyone's so sick and tired of enforcing laws that even minor theft is looked up on as a capital offense. Just so you know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anxe View Post
    Most of the problems come up when I use my mouse to navigate instead of my arrow keys. Which do you use?
    Both, I guess. I tend to navigate the inventory and magic screens with keys, and dialogue with mouse, perk trees with mouse. No issues with either.
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