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    My guess: Padme decides it is time for her to die, and gives the japor snippet to Luke.

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    At least we know why they remove the helmet this time.

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    And, of course, the snippet will come back in episode VII.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 137ben View Post
    My guess: Padme decides it is time for her to die, and gives the japor snippet to Luke.
    If it were Hans instead of Luke, he'd remove the helmet just to inspect the japor snippet and accidentally kill her.

    Would Padme want Luke to have the snippet to protect him from Princess, in case she became possessed by Anakin? That doesn't seem very likely, but maybe?
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    I want an alternate version where Jim plays Luke now.
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    Man, Nien needs so therapy or something.

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    Hey, DMM, why use explodium when you can have a magazine of Illudium Q-36 Space Modulators instead?

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    Hey, DMM, why use explodium when you can have a magazine of Illudium Q-36 Space Modulators instead?
    because the rebels aren't obstructing their view of Venus.
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    In fairness it's pretty clear even just from watching the film (rather than reading about it) that the fighters were hitting that thing with missiles, not just poking at it with normal blasters. Those served the same purpose as plane-launched bombs penetrating the topdeck of a battleship in WWII-era naval combat.

    Although those were, indeed, the most effective when they got a lucky hit on a magazine. But in canon it kind of made sense that it was a shield projector and they took it out with weapons designed for hard targets. It's just that the SFX department loves unjustifiably large explosions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nerd-o-rama View Post
    It's just that the SFX department loves unjustifiably large explosions.
    I think that should read, "It's just that a large part of the audience loves unjustifiably large explosions." People like seeing things blow up. The bigger the explosions, the better, for many people.

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    Honestly unjustifiably large explosions have been Star Wars's key selling point back to the original film.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nerd-o-rama View Post
    But in canon it kind of made sense that it was a shield projector and they took it out with weapons designed for hard targets.
    Imean, they weren't supposed to be the shield generators. They were originally sensor domes. But when they blew up and immediately after it's announced that the shields are down, audiences assumed that they were the shield generators, and it kind of got retconned in. The big bubble on the underside was originally conceived as the shield generator, IIRC.
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    Imean, they weren't supposed to be the shield generators. They were originally sensor domes. But when they blew up and immediately after it's announced that the shields are down, audiences assumed that they were the shield generators, and it kind of got retconned in. The big bubble on the underside was originally conceived as the shield generator, IIRC.
    Huh. Wouldn't the natural conclusion be that the, er, shield generator on Endor that went down was the shield generator, and the reason it's announced that the shields are down immediately after the dome blows up is that the dome wouldn't have blown up if the shields weren't down?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nerd-o-rama View Post
    Honestly unjustifiably large explosions have been Star Wars's key selling point back to the original film.
    Maybe, but I don't remember the explosions being unjustifiably large in the first movie. Yes, they were large, but I don't remember them being unjustifiably so. What was unjustifiable was the puny explosion with a nonsensical ring that was retconned into the end of the special edition version. That looks terrible to me.

    Part of the problem could be my memory, though. I don't remember what caused some of the explosions on the surface the the death star, which looked like they were pretty large based on what we see here.

    Quote Originally Posted by Peelee View Post
    Imean, they weren't supposed to be the shield generators. They were originally sensor domes. But when they blew up and immediately after it's announced that the shields are down, audiences assumed that they were the shield generators, and it kind of got retconned in. The big bubble on the underside was originally conceived as the shield generator, IIRC.
    Just looking at what's here and here, I think the idea that was settled on was that it is a sensor globe that also generates a small shield. Basically, it would have protected the sensors and the bridge area only. So the main shield generator for the entire ship must have already been down (or maybe it didn't cover the bridge) and now the bridge lost its shield. The one link contains the quote, "Sir, we've lost our bridge deflector shield," but I don't know if that is a change to the dialogue or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nerd-o-rama View Post
    Honestly unjustifiably large explosions have been Star Wars's key selling point back to the original film.
    You do kind of want the visuals to match the narrative importance too. The original Death Star could have had its reactor so slagged by the torpedo that they'd need to build another one but produced only a smoky fart as external evidence of that. It wouldn't match all the hootin' and hollerin' over the victory, so that'd be incongruous to the audience.

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    Huh. Wouldn't the natural conclusion be that the, er, shield generator on Endor that went down was the shield generator, and the reason it's announced that the shields are down immediately after the dome blows up is that the dome wouldn't have blown up if the shields weren't down?
    No, that wouldn't make any sense. General Calrissian gave the order for all ships to pull up, as he realized the shield was still up. Logically, the only reason to pull up is if they would be destroyed trying to pass through the shield (or the rebels could just go straight for the Death Star openings to fly towards the core). The star destroyers, including the SSD Executor, are all behind the Rebel fleet, and thus outside the area shielded by the generator on Endor. They can only be defended by their own shields, not the planetary shield projected from Endor.

    Your last part is probably right, the dome was blown up likely to demonstrate that the ship's shields were down, but the explosion followed by the dialogue lead to the belief that the domes were the (ship's) shield generators. Which was later made true.
    Quote Originally Posted by eschmenk View Post
    Just looking at what's here and here, I think the idea that was settled on was that it is a sensor globe that also generates a small shield. Basically, it would have protected the sensors and the bridge area only. So the main shield generator for the entire ship must have already been down (or maybe it didn't cover the bridge) and now the bridge lost its shield. The one link contains the quote, "Sir, we've lost our bridge deflector shield," but I don't know if that is a change to the dialogue or not.
    Ayep. Haven't looked at any of the schematic or cutaway books in years, though, so they may have changed the belly bubble to something else entirely and gone ahead with the domes for all shielding, just each dome doing different parts of the ship. I dunno.
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    I know at least some iterations of the belly bubble have been the life support systems. Battlefront 2 did that certainly, and I could swear I've seen it elsewhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grim Portent View Post
    I know at least some iterations of the belly bubble have been the life support systems. Battlefront 2 did that certainly, and I could swear I've seen it elsewhere.
    A singular protruding life support system seems... hazardous.
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    A singular protruding life support system seems... hazardous.
    It was actually a pain in the ass to blow up from outside the ship because of how they made bombers work in space battles.
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    A singular protruding life support system seems... hazardous.
    Hazardous seems consistent with the SW universe.
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    Hazardous seems consistent with the SW universe.
    This is the universe that has a shaft leading directly to the reactor core in the throne room of the emperor, after all.

    Seriously, why is that thing even there?

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    Possibly so that the Emperor can bathe in the aura of UNLIMITED POWER the reactor exudes?
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    Honestly unjustifiably large explosions have been Star Wars's key selling point back to the original film.
    Not to mention 5th-grader plot holes.
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    Not to mention 5th-grader plot holes.
    What plot holes did the original film have?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peelee View Post
    What plot holes did the original film have?
    The one that immediately comes to mind is two officers deciding to let an escape pod go due to "lack of life-signs" in a universe where robots are a well-known ubiquitous life-form.

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