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    Default So maybe V is in a same sex marriage?



    Was this ever considered when trying to determine if V is a dude or a chick?

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    Shockingly enough, yes. IIRC, the Giant is on record as having said that V's children were adopted specifically so that it remained a possibility.
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    I came here knowing speculation on this would be a thing

    I personally believe they're both male but it's still quite up in the air. V of course would tell us all that it doesn't matter.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Keltest View Post
    Shockingly enough, yes. IIRC, the Giant is on record as having said that V's children were adopted specifically so that it remained a possibility.
    Also, i see this everywhere, what is IIRC?

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    Quote Originally Posted by grandpheonix View Post
    Also, i see this everywhere, what is IIRC?
    If I Recall Correctly.
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    Perhaps Blackwing is, too? Maybe his adoration for Bloodfeast is something more...
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    V is

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    Also, look closely at Kyrie in this drawing. The Giant drew hir with a rounded bottom instead of the square "male" bottom from earlier in the comic!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoffeeIncluded View Post
    Also, look closely at Kyrie in this drawing. The Giant drew hir with a rounded bottom instead of the square "male" bottom from earlier in the comic!
    Which pretty much confirms Kyrie as genderqueer, too. Genderqueer can mean a lot of things, but if it means "agender" or "ungendered" as I would think it does for V and Kyrie, then it would be a queer marriage, but not a same-sex marriage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoffeeIncluded View Post
    Also, look closely at Kyrie in this drawing. The Giant drew hir with a rounded bottom instead of the square "male" bottom from earlier in the comic!
    Huh, that's really interesting. I didn't notice that until just now.

    I wonder what was up with the original design, then.
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    Is this canon? Can we use this to assume the rumors of Bandana and Andi to be false?

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    Huh, that's really interesting. I didn't notice that until just now.

    I wonder what was up with the original design, then.
    I assume Inky was wearing pants that didn't cling so tightly?
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    Don't be ridiculous. V is divorced.
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    Don't be ridiculous. V is divorced.
    Obviously it was all a ruse to prevent a repeat of the dragon incident. V actually had Durkon cast Sending to plan it out while they were sailing to the Western Continent.

    Or maybe im just grasping at straws. I liked V being married, it added a side to the character we rarely get to see. And im a hopeless romantic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keltest View Post
    Obviously it was all a ruse to prevent a repeat of the dragon incident. V actually had Durkon cast Sending to plan it out while they were sailing to the Western Continent.

    Or maybe im just grasping at straws. I liked V being married, it added a side to the character we rarely get to see. And im a hopeless romantic.
    Nah, what we saw of V with the family showed us V largely ignored them. They're better off without V.

    But then, I'm not a hopeless romantic who's seen people stick with people "they love" that also mistreat them and are generally horrible.

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    So, while I love the decision this image represents:

    All I can think is that this will most likley be the last time we see V and Mate happy together, and that brings me down a little bit.

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    Is there a particular reason for this image being made today? Some kind of particular recurrence, or an important event that happened - but that escaped notice to those outside of the usa? or it was just a random fluke of creativity hitting rich's brain?

    In-comic, I wonder if V is gonna try fix things with inkirius after being done with the gates. although I see him as a loner, and therefore a person who doesn't need a romantic pairing to be happy, I'm still sad for his marriage. maybe because it's so difficult for a loner to find a partner who fits with him/her. and especially a queer loner, finding someone who fits with him/her AND is also compatible in sexual orientation seems extremely hard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by King of Nowere View Post
    Is there a particular reason for this image being made today? Some kind of particular recurrence, or an important event that happened - but that escaped notice to those outside of the usa? or it was just a random fluke of creativity hitting rich's brain?

    In-comic, I wonder if V is gonna try fix things with inkirius after being done with the gates. although I see him as a loner, and therefore a person who doesn't need a romantic pairing to be happy, I'm still sad for his marriage. maybe because it's so difficult for a loner to find a partner who fits with him/her. and especially a queer loner, finding someone who fits with him/her AND is also compatible in sexual orientation seems extremely hard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by King of Nowere View Post
    Is there a particular reason for this image being made today? Some kind of particular recurrence, or an important event that happened - but that escaped notice to those outside of the usa? or it was just a random fluke of creativity hitting rich's brain?
    The Supreme Court of the United States of America ruled today that same sex marriage is a right guaranteed by the United States Constitution, and thus that all states are required to allow and recognize it.

    LGBT people and their supporters are ecstatic over the news.

    Congratulations are in order for the people affected by it, but it's an issue rather tightly coupled to politics so be careful discussing anything more about it than that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant View Post
    Don't be ridiculous. V is divorced.
    Someone take this to the Index of the Giant's Comments.

    Seriously, it's probably worth noting that the divorce is complete, not still in progress.
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    This, in a nutshell.
    Yes, exactly.

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    Thanks for the answer. well, it didn't escape notice outside the US, it is in the main page of all onlline newspapers right now, it just hadn't happened the last time I checked.
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    OK, I still don't 100% understand what "genderqueer" means (because I dropped out of every thread where the issue came up, when the threads became arguments). I do support all orientations and personal choices.

    But this answer STILL says nothing about whether V is male or female, right?

    I always got the impression from dialogue that V considered gender unimportant, so much that when it became a plot point s/he specifically mentioned "Normally I don't pay attention to pronouns." So, how does this attitude fit in with Word of the Giant? (Without making this thread a debate about gender politics, please?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Paul View Post
    OK, I still don't 100% understand what "genderqueer" means (because I dropped out of every thread where the issue came up, when the threads became arguments). I do support all orientations and personal choices.

    But this answer STILL says nothing about whether V is male or female, right?

    I always got the impression from dialogue that V considered gender unimportant, so much that when it became a plot point s/he specifically mentioned "Normally I don't pay attention to pronouns." So, how does this attitude fit in with Word of the Giant? (Without making this thread a debate about gender politics, please?)
    I believe it means that V does not conform to normal genders, and/or does not consider them to be an important facet of their being.
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    Also, look closely at Kyrie in this drawing. The Giant drew hir with a rounded bottom instead of the square "male" bottom from earlier in the comic!
    Could I have a quote on this, because that contradicts something he said earlier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CowardlyPaladin View Post
    Could I have a quote on this, because that contradicts something he said earlier.
    I'm curious, what comment of his does he contradict by that? (Unfortunately I am away from my books at the moment, but I can confirm Rich calls V genderqueer- but I'm sure someone will post the actual quote shortly anyway)

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    Thank you, Keltest and Kish, that clears it up.

    Now I just have to deal with MY head canon, in which V knows V's gender, but doesn't care. Although that fits in with Keltest's phrase...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Paul View Post
    Thank you, Keltest and Kish, that clears it up.

    Now I just have to deal with MY head canon, in which V knows V's gender, but doesn't care. Although that fits in with Keltest's phrase...
    Essentially, yes. V knows whether xhe is biologically male or female, and xhe doesn't think it's important.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elenna View Post
    Essentially, yes. V knows whether xhe is biologically male or female, and xhe doesn't think it's important.
    Which brings us to the question: why do we think it's important?

    Oh wait, I forgot, this is the OOTS forums.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theasl View Post
    Which brings us to the question: why do we think it's important?

    Oh wait, I forgot, this is the OOTS forums.
    Perhaps because we can consider something to be important contrary to what a fictional character thinks is important?
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    Obviously. Both V and Inky are kept sexually ambiguous as part of the joke, and opening the possibility of a same sex marriage by revealing the kids are adopted is just another layer to add on.
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