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    It was not their error Kami, but yours. For some one as old as you claim to be you seem to refuse to learn. A good Teacher learns from there students as he also passes on his knowledge, rather then use them as free labor. Oh hello Iris. Callins says as he sees her arrive.

    Volcano

    Aspa believes she is zeroing in on the artifact she found a few anomlaies in the crust of the new rock.

    Wow your time sounds quite interesting. How are you Oxy? I mean you looks to be what 14 15?

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    You are not really in danger. honestly not many of us even mind what you are doing. though I am sorry for having to destory your statue. did not want to take a chance. I will await here while till Callins arrive, you and your friends are free to come back anytime. At least till i have to leave.

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    Kami glances at Iris, but she likely won't notice that through his mask. Kami doesn't otherwise do anything to acknowledge she's even there. He continues to speak to Callin:

    "My error? Now that's a good one. You have even less of a clue than I thought", the old man mocks. "Let's try an easier one: what error are you making?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by cavalieredraghi View Post
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    You are not really in danger. honestly not many of us even mind what you are doing. though I am sorry for having to destory your statue. did not want to take a chance. I will await here while till Callins arrive, you and your friends are free to come back anytime. At least till i have to leave.
    "Ah, but which statue did you destroy?"
    She says with a little smile on her lips and both 22 and 23 fly off, giggling at the joke just made.

    And indeed, there is at least one timeline of importance to this one where the statue is not destroyed, but won't be relevant until certain conditions are met important only to the Androids, which will be quite a while, and won't have much of an effect on the wider timeline.

    The Volcano
    The Androids fly in.
    "Ok, good news, bad news time:"
    "The Good News! We found a Time Patrol spy! He was the nobleman and is named Ramus, he is also friendly, and Time Patrol largely has little problem with us! We will give the Dragon Ball as soon as Callins speaks with him"
    "The Bad News: Callins was apparently "supposed" to die, and the guy wants to talk with Callins about how what he will decide going forward and our actions of saving him might've caused some kind of damage even though that doesn't really make sense given multiverse theory. Also we're being watched the Time Patrol. Just FYI: I told you so about the time patrol thing. I told you that we would attract their attention dog, I warned you about their stares bro."
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    Artic? Didn't the Time Travelers say something about this Frieza guy being descended from Hailing? I mean, wasn't that why they agreed to help us?
    They inferred that Frieza is descended from Hailing, but in the absence of information, I cannot say one way or the other if it's true.

    Besides, the Empire poses a clear and definite threat to the remainder of the free universe. If they won't do it for us, they'll do it for Iris or even Callins, as its his homeworld that is eventually destroyed by this Frieza.


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    A Galaxy free of Tyranny is it's own cause. A Tyrant and those who follow him, out of genuine belief in his propaganda or out of greed or hunger for the power following him can give them, regardless in the cost in innocent lives, all dead at the hands of righteous warriors. That destroys an ideology far more completely than a million debates.

    That's the thing. I don't think for a moment that Hailing considers what he's doing wrong. He and his ilk think that what they do is right and just, and they think that because there actions are just, they thus can not fail.

    Proving him wrong on all fronts before ending his existence is the only way to stop that kind of Tyrant for good.

    Arcos would need a new Emperor, of course. Someone skilled and and wanting to do a good job, but humble, so that the power wouldn't go to their heads. Someone from the colonies, who knows what the actual effects of Hailings warring and enslavement has on innocent people, but someone strong enough to not be opposed by any stragglers trying to set things back to the ways of Hailing.

    Any nobles who survived the war but supported hailing would, of course, have to be tried and receive just punishment for their crimes against innocent people. Real trials. Fair trials. Not Hailing's trials. If, for no other reason than to prove a point.

    It would have taken time, but with the worst of the rot cleaned out, the wound could begin to heal.


    The Warrior sighs.
    Nobody opposes the destruction, or rather the dissolution of the Empire in its current form. Artic explained. All I ask is that a more careful look be taken at the long-term state of a post-Empire universe.

    Meanwhile, I find myself vindicated in my endeavors to learn technology. One of our allies, a Tuffle from the planet Plant named Callins, yes that Plant from the old Chilled cartoons, wears a suit of power-armor that amplifies his Ki and increases his physical strength and durability to higher levels.

    Improvements on the design can be used to give our side a major edge in combat against Hailing, to say nothing of the fact that our time-travelers have informed me that at some point in the future, technology will have advanced to such a degree that an ordinary human with a power-level of 5 can be cybernetically enhanced to have a Ki strong enough to fight against Majin Buu, and not only survive, but win.


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    So. Time Travel. That explains a lot. For example, that... thing.

    He says, pointing the the sleeping majin.

    I wish they hadn't all left. It'd be fascinating to ask them questions.
    Well, she's still there. Artic shrugs. And unless she's hiding incredible power, you're safe.

    A word of warning though: Time isn't linear. She comes from a timeline different than some of the other time-travelers abound. However the moment of divergence seems to have occurred centuries from now.
    Artic is then distracted by the realization he just referred to the future in past-tense. Answers might not meet expectatins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cavalieredraghi View Post
    Volcano

    Aspa believes she is zeroing in on the artifact she found a few anomalies in the crust of the new rock.

    [COLOR="#FF0000"]Wow your time sounds quite interesting. How are you Oxy? I mean you looks to be what 14 15?[/COLOR
    Age is irrelevant, as I wasn't born. I was made. A comglomete of the DNA and ki of the ten greatest warriors of my time and the techniques of the greatest warriors in history passed down through the generation, onto a template of naturally strong, intelligent, and athletic humans and some of the most badass reptiles and arthropods on earth.

    Everything from the simple rock paper scissors fist, to the ultimate miracle of namekian sorcery, the creation of dragon ball and the planet busting Super Nova and everything in between are locked in my genetic memory. I merely need to unlock them and build up the power to use them.

    That was before I absorbed biomass from that dragon or from God-King Solitus.

    I'm a living weapon, and weapons don't have birthdays.

    Though, if it's so important, it has been four years, from my perspective, since I emerged from the gestation tank of my incubator.


    The androids may have heard all of that, the end of that, or none of that.
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    [COLOR="#66cc66"]The Volcano
    The Androids fly in.
    "Ok, good news, bad news time:"
    "The Good News! We found a Time Patrol spy! He was the nobleman and is named Ramus, he is also friendly, and Time Patrol largely has little problem with us! We will give the Dragon Ball as soon as Callins speaks with him"
    "The Bad News: Callins was apparently "supposed" to die, and the guy wants to talk with Callins about how what he will decide going forward and our actions of saving him might've caused some kind of damage even though that doesn't really make sense given multiverse theory. Also we're being watched the Time Patrol. Just FYI: I told you so about the time patrol thing. I told you that we would attract their attention dog, I warned you about their stares bro."
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    Nobody opposes the destruction, or rather the dissolution of the Empire in its current form. Artic explained. All I ask is that a more careful look be taken at the long-term state of a post-Empire universe.

    Meanwhile, I find myself vindicated in my endeavors to learn technology. One of our allies, a Tuffle from the planet Plant named Callins, yes that Plant from the old Chilled cartoons, wears a suit of power-armor that amplifies his Ki and increases his physical strength and durability to higher levels.

    Improvements on the design can be used to give our side a major edge in combat against Hailing, to say nothing of the fact that our time-travelers have informed me that at some point in the future, technology will have advanced to such a degree that an ordinary human with a power-level of 5 can be cybernetically enhanced to have a Ki strong enough to fight against Majin Buu, and not only survive, but win.




    Well, she's still there. Artic shrugs. And unless she's hiding incredible power, you're safe.

    A word of warning though: Time isn't linear. She comes from a timeline different than some of the other time-travelers abound. However the moment of divergence seems to have occurred centuries from now.
    Artic is then distracted by the realization he just referred to the future in past-tense. Answers might not meet expectatins.
    I ced your points. Unfortunately, as I am dead, I can't be the one to take such a look.

    The elder arcosian, very, very, very slowly, with a toe, pokes the sleeping Majin

    GAMZEE, STOP KILLING EVERYONE!

    It appears the Majin was having a bad dream.

    What was that?

    8breathing heavily* Sorry. My dream turned into a war flash back.

    ...Who's "Gamzee?"

    One of my cousins. Another Majin. Either his parents read to many webcomics, or they could see the future and had a really sick sense of humor.

    Battle got stressful. He couldn't take it, went pure, stated killing friends and enemies alike. General Baahl had to put him down, cause we couldn't snap him out of it.


    She looks sad now.

    ...Are you alright?

    Yeah, I'll be fine. Why'd you wake me.

    I want to ask you about the future.

    Yeah. Give me a second to wake up.
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    23 smiles.
    "Oh jegus, this moment....I'm mentally-digitally taking a picture of this moment, of that expression on your face. That moment when you realize that you don't really know anything, and doubt you ever really did. Beautiful. Simply beautiful."
    "Yea can we focus on finding that Dragon Ball? methinks Callins can handle Ramus. How are we going to find the Dragon Ball? Its like, somewhere around here right? Buried under the lava I'm guess? That will make it hard. Perhaps we need to think like witchhunter and figure out a simple solution no one else would think of!"
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    Kami glances at Iris, but she likely won't notice that through his mask. Kami doesn't otherwise do anything to acknowledge she's even there. He continues to speak to Callin:
    Iris loudly clears her throat.
    "*AHEM*, Greetings Kami. It is a pleasure to meet you."
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    Kami turns his head slightly towards Iris and nods to her, then turns back to Callin. "Even she has more clue than you do, and she hasn't even met me before."
    "It's the fate of all things under the sky,
    to grow old and wither and die."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Raziere View Post
    23 smiles.
    "Oh jegus, this moment....I'm mentally-digitally taking a picture of this moment, of that expression on your face. That moment when you realize that you don't really know anything, and doubt you ever really did. Beautiful. Simply beautiful."
    At first, Oxy looks mad.

    Then he looks sad.

    Then he looks defiant.

    Then he smiles.

    Whatever, human. With your candy red blood. Everybody knows that purple blood is the best color of blood. That's the real reason why the namekians and frieza clan don't have to work as hard to reach their potential. And the scientists made my blood purple with namekian and frieza clan DNA to make sure I had that blood superiority as part of my perfect design.

    Oxy says all of that in a tone that clearly says that he's making crap up in an atempt to deflect 23 with humor. He clearly has no idea what he just did.
    "Yea can we focus on finding that Dragon Ball? methinks Callins can handle Ramus. How are we going to find the Dragon Ball? Its like, somewhere around here right? Buried under the lava I'm guess? That will make it hard. Perhaps we need to think like witchhunter and figure out a simple solution no one else would think of!"
    Oxy goes back to digging.

    What's witchhunter?

    [Baba's]

    Sooo. Miss... How did. Majin Buu. How.

    Oooh!That's a good one. One of my favorite bits of family history.

    Long ago, I forget how many greats grandpa Buu was noticing that humans had husbands and wives and children and families, but there was nobody like him around, and he got lonely. Then one day, he was wandering around in his friend Mr. Satan's house and found his way in the library.

    Then he read a porno novel and got entirely the wrong idea from it.

    So then he took some of his mass and used his magic to turn it into great great I forget how many greats Grandma Buuby. Course, nowadays she goes by Ms. Buu.

    They got married, and a little bit later they decided they wanted a baby, so Grandpa and grandma took bits of their mass and hit them with love beams from their antenna and made one less great grandpa Baby Buu. And then they had more kids, and more kids, and more kids, and more kids, and the kids grew up and since we don't have DNA and don't have sex to reproduce there was nothing wrong with the first majin kids getting married and having their own babies when they grew up, and here we are!


    In a moment of strong family resemblance, both Slushya and Ieez look as though they don't know whether or not to be intrigued or horrified by that story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rater202 View Post
    Oxy says all of that in a tone that clearly says that he's making crap up in an atempt to deflect 23 with humor. He clearly has no idea what he just did.


    Oxy goes back to digging.

    What's witchhunter?
    ".....Candy red blood? Oh You mean I'm KARKAT VANTAS!? Thank you for the compliment! I try my best. However I didn't figure you for an Eridan, he is just kind of loser who never gets anyone to love him but considering you don't seem to interested in that kind of thing anyways that kind of fits. I always figured you were more of a Vriska, I was like half-expecting that I would have to go Terezi on you if you tried to pull some stupid-ass munchkin plan to like empower Hailing or his super-murderous agent then become powerful yourself so that you can have a good fight between the both of you while screwing over everyone else then acting as if you won some big game if you killed him.

    If your Eridan all I have to worry about is like, you getting mad for not getting laid then attempting to only kill one person then getting your ass kicked. Figures."

    "A witchhunter is a job from a videogame. They hunt witches. and like, a webcomic of a videogame said something about how witchhunters think in a certain way that is all lateral and logical and stuff, so I was thinking: maybe we should try to think like that to find the Dragon Ball! also, can I be Nepeta?"
    "Sure why not. Fits us like a glove."
    The two Androids try punching the ground in rapid fire fisticuffs to break away the rock.
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    In a moment of strong family resemblance, both Slushya and Ieez look as though they don't know whether or not to be intrigued or horrified by that story.
    Slushya, Ieez, and Artic.

    So you know nothing, or very little of Majin Buu before meeting Mr. Satan?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Raziere View Post
    ".....Candy red blood? Oh You mean I'm KARKAT VANTAS!? Thank you for the compliment! I try my best. However I didn't figure you for an Eridan, he is just kind of loser who never gets anyone to love him but considering you don't seem to interested in that kind of thing anyways that kind of fits. I always figured you were more of a Vriska, I was like half-expecting that I would have to go Terezi on you if you tried to pull some stupid-ass munchkin plan to like empower Hailing or his super-murderous agent then become powerful yourself so that you can have a good fight between the both of you while screwing over everyone else then acting as if you won some big game if you killed him.

    If your Eridan all I have to worry about is like, you getting mad for not getting laid then attempting to only kill one person then getting your ass kicked. Figures."

    "can I be Nepeta?"
    "Sure why not. Fits us like a glove."
    ...What the **** are you talking about?

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    Slushya, Ieez, and Artic.

    So you know nothing, or very little of Majin Buu before meeting Mr. Satan?
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    I'll just say that it's a good thing to know that in the future Majin Buu is redeemed by this Mr. Satan. Artic attempts diplomacy.
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    ...What the **** are you talking about?
    "A webcomic from my time involving about eight human teenagers, 24 crazy horned aliens, eight or so Sprites, three versions of the same murderous ******* one of whom is a one-armed wing dog with a sword in his chest, two green people, and a cue-ball head all of whom play a videogame to defeat enemies so you can build a house into a tower so that you defeat a king to both create and destroy planets and universes while time traveling in like 413 different ways to close a bunch of time loops, risking life, death, double-death, weird chatlog conversations and even immortality to save everything all for the sake of a few teenagers learning to grow up."
    She said with a smirk, knowing that it wouldn't make much sense anyways. She coontinues break things apart with her fists.
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    With Kami:

    No I have a clue, I just choose to not give respect to the one who has not earned it. You are sour and bitter for you were given this post. You did not choose to be Kami, since you are fighting your own nature. You have learned nothing, as your time as Kami. A good leader does not take respect with fear. So have i no clue, or am just not a pawn in your foolish attempts of a game.


    Volcano:

    Aspa listened to Oxy, and then once the Androids arrived, she followed her scanners. Her woman initiation told her that 23 at least did not like her. she was away from the others, now when she sent her fist for the first time into the rock. She pulled out a perfect stone sphere.

    Hey is this it? She says running back to the others.
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    I'll just say that it's a good thing to know that in the future Majin Buu is redeemed by this Mr. Satan. Artic attempts diplomacy.
    Pokasuu doen'st look very happy at that whole "redeemed line". She inflates a bit, then stomps off.

    Well, that could of gone better. I'm going to go try and change back now.

    So, Artic. That technique you used. Did you create it yourself?

    Pokasuu stomps over to Shanakahn, who I am assuming is still here, since he hasn't been mentioned as leaving.

    So Kitty. Do you think my ancestor was/is some kind of monster?
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    "A webcomic from my time involving about eight human teenagers, 24 crazy horned aliens, eight or so Sprites, three versions of the same murderous ******* one of whom is a one-armed wing dog with a sword in his chest, two green people, and a cue-ball head all of whom play a videogame to defeat enemies so you can build a house into a tower so that you defeat a king to both create and destroy planets and universes while time traveling in like 413 different ways to close a bunch of time loops, risking life, death, double-death, weird chatlog conversations and even immortality to save everything all for the sake of a few teenagers learning to grow up."
    She said with a smirk, knowing that it wouldn't make much sense anyways. She continues break things apart with her fists.
    ...What?. The. Hell?

    ...Okay, out of a sense of Morbid Curiosity, who are the others in this scenario?

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    Volcano:

    Aspa listened to Oxy, and then once the Androids arrived, she followed her scanners. Her woman initiation told her that 23 at least did not like her. she was away from the others, now when she sent her fist for the first time into the rock. She pulled out a perfect stone sphere.

    Hey is this it? She says running back to the others.
    I think so.

    So. Discounting the one with the Time Patroller, there are three balls left.

    One with Kami. One on an Island filled with birds that lay eggs that look like inert dragonballs, which will be difficult.

    And the last one is with a culture that, if my history lessons are accurate, practices human sacrifice.
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    So Kitty. Do you think my ancestor was/is some kind of monster?

    ...What?. The. Hell?

    ...Okay, out of a sense of Morbid Curiosity, who are the others in this scenario?



    I think so.

    So. Discounting the one with the Time Patroller, there are three balls left.

    One with Kami. One on an Island filled with birds that lay eggs that look like inert dragonballs, which will be difficult.

    And the last one is with a culture that, if my history lessons are accurate, practices human sacrifice.

    Shanakan
    He had been meditating. He opens one eye.
    "I know not whether he was as is the case, will be. Technically, despite the number of people saying he is evil outnumbering the people who think he is good, there is actually only four sources, two of which say he is evil and two of which say he is good.

    Let us then assess:
    The Arcosians:
    They have only heard legends and tales of Majin Buu, supposedly of a time long past committing atrocities long before the age you say he appeared. His name is spoken in the same tones as Beerus, the God of Destruction. Such tales do not originate lightly, so there must be some truth to them. However the details can be lost in the telling until it becomes myth.

    Ox-Sea-Reed-Bow:
    He comes from the Year 1000. He himself, has only heard tales of Majin Buu. The story he is told however, is of his second appearance. That he was the sidekick of one named Mr. Satan. That he propagated your race. That he was friendly, and makes no mention of any atrocities he committed. His account matches your own. Mostly.

    The Androids:
    They however, have seen Majin Buu directly- enough to have some fearful malady as a result of the encounter and act shocked when reminded of the events. That doesn't mean they know the full story. All that they know, is that the version of Majin Buu they encountered was one that posed a danger to all of humanity and that they had to defend the world they grew up in.

    Yours:
    Your account matches Ox-Sea's. The only difference in yours is that you say that Majin Buu had something to do with Beerus after his second appearance.

    The only thing that matches in all three of the future accounts of Majin Buu is the year of his second appearance: 774. The same year he benevolently showed up in both your accounts is the same year that the Androids fought him while he was menacing humanity. Thus there is a missing piece of the puzzle:

    What happened in the Year 774 in your timelines that did not happen in the Android's timeline?

    According to the Androids, Cell was not made in their timeline and that Z-Fighters all died to Majin Buu. While in both your timelines, you now full well of Cell, the Z-Fighters all lived to start schools and Majin Buu is alive as well.

    So, what difference, did Cell make to the timeline? Well according to Ox-Sea, he was the greatest creation of this sorcerer, Dr. Gero. The Z-Fighters would clearly have to train harder to defeat him. Thus when they beat Cell, they were strong enough to keep training for the next seven years and thus when Majin Buu appeared, they were probably strong enough to stand against him. However, since they did not possess the draining powers of the Androids they could not defeat him entirely, as he had regeneration abilities. Thus it was a standoff, so they found some way of persuading them over to their side before he started wreaking havoc upon the rest of the planet, and thus he was taught to be good by the Z-Fighters, redeemed from being a monster into a better person. The reason you never heard about it, was that they probably fought out in some wasteland where no one could get hurt, thus their battle in history was never written down and the Z-Fighters didn't want to ruin his reputation so his origins were never recorded so people would accept him.

    To put it simply: In your timeline at least, he once WAS a monster, but had a change of heart and was a monster no more.

    Technically to my point of view, this is all in the future, so technically these are only possible Majin Buu's that could exist, so technically to me he is both and neither, but for you and Ox-Sea's purposes he is redeemed from being a monster."


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    "The others? erm sorry, they're not exactly 1:1 comparisons here, even I'm more a mix than an actual analogue. But I guess you can say Callins is....I'm tempted to say Kankri but Callins is too nice, so I'm going to say John....Aspa is Latula or perhaps Meenah....Ieez and Slushya are Dave and Bro Strider...Artic is....I dunno really, MAYBE Dirk, but Dirk is kind of much more of a hardcore cool-dude than Artic. Iris.....eeeeeh.....I don't she think maps well. Shanakan....is NOPE 404 error Homestuck wise, and Pokasuu is.......Meulin or Feferi."
    "Yeah.....these things aren't exact. Though I think you pretty on the mark with the Dave and Bro Strider one!"
    "Thank you! Anyways. So.....bird, jerk guardian of the world, or sacrifice culture....we could try gathering up all the eggs then boiling them, the one that doesn't get boiled is the Dragon Ball, and we'd have something to eat."
    "Hm. 23, do you think our DNA scanners will work on eggs?"
    "I dunno, they didn't detect Aspa until she took her helmet off..."
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    He had been meditating. He opens one eye.
    "I know not whether he was as is the case, will be. Technically, despite the number of people saying he is evil outnumbering the people who think he is good, there is actually only four sources, two of which say he is evil and two of which say he is good.

    Let us then assess:
    The Arcosians:
    They have only heard legends and tales of Majin Buu, supposedly of a time long past committing atrocities long before the age you say he appeared. His name is spoken in the same tones as Beerus, the God of Destruction. Such tales do not originate lightly, so there must be some truth to them. However the details can be lost in the telling until it becomes myth.

    Ox-Sea-Reed-Bow:
    He comes from the Year 1000. He himself, has only heard tales of Majin Buu. The story he is told however, is of his second appearance. That he was the sidekick of one named Mr. Satan. That he propagated your race. That he was friendly, and makes no mention of any atrocities he committed. His account matches your own. Mostly.

    The Androids:
    They however, have seen Majin Buu directly- enough to have some fearful malady as a result of the encounter and act shocked when reminded of the events. That doesn't mean they know the full story. All that they know, is that the version of Majin Buu they encountered was one that posed a danger to all of humanity and that they had to defend the world they grew up in.

    Yours:
    Your account matches Ox-Sea's. The only difference in yours is that you say that Majin Buu had something to do with Beerus after his second appearance.

    The only thing that matches in all three of the future accounts of Majin Buu is the year of his second appearance: 774. The same year he benevolently showed up in both your accounts is the same year that the Androids fought him while he was menacing humanity. Thus there is a missing piece of the puzzle:

    What happened in the Year 774 in your timelines that did not happen in the Android's timeline?

    According to the Androids, Cell was not made in their timeline and that Z-Fighters all died to Majin Buu. While in both your timelines, you now full well of Cell, the Z-Fighters all lived to start schools and Majin Buu is alive as well.

    So, what difference, did Cell make to the timeline? Well according to Ox-Sea, he was the greatest creation of this sorcerer, Dr. Gero. The Z-Fighters would clearly have to train harder to defeat him. Thus when they beat Cell, they were strong enough to keep training for the next seven years and thus when Majin Buu appeared, they were probably strong enough to stand against him. However, since they did not possess the draining powers of the Androids they could not defeat him entirely, as he had regeneration abilities. Thus it was a standoff, so they found some way of persuading them over to their side before he started wreaking havoc upon the rest of the planet, and thus he was taught to be good by the Z-Fighters, redeemed from being a monster into a better person. The reason you never heard about it, was that they probably fought out in some wasteland where no one could get hurt, thus their battle in history was never written down and the Z-Fighters didn't want to ruin his reputation so his origins were never recorded so people would accept him.

    To put it simply: In your timeline at least, he once WAS a monster, but had a change of heart and was a monster no more.

    Technically to my point of view, this is all in the future, so technically these are only possible Majin Buu's that could exist, so technically to me he is both and neither, but for you and Ox-Sea's purposes he is redeemed from being a monster."


    The Majin rests her head on her knees and hugs her legs.
    Volcano:
    "The others? erm sorry, they're not exactly 1:1 comparisons here, even I'm more a mix than an actual analogue. But I guess you can say Callins is....I'm tempted to say Kankri but Callins is too nice, so I'm going to say John....Aspa is Latula or perhaps Meenah....Ieez and Slushya are Dave and Bro Strider...Artic is....I dunno really, MAYBE Dirk, but Dirk is kind of much more of a hardcore cool-dude than Artic. Iris.....eeeeeh.....I don't she think maps well. Shanakan....is NOPE 404 error Homestuck wise, and Pokasuu is.......Meulin or Feferi."
    "Yeah.....these things aren't exact. Though I think you pretty on the mark with the Dave and Bro Strider one!"
    "Thank you! Anyways. So.....bird, jerk guardian of the world, or sacrifice culture....we could try gathering up all the eggs then boiling them, the one that doesn't get boiled is the Dragon Ball, and we'd have something to eat."
    "Hm. 23, do you think our DNA scanners will work on eggs?"
    "I dunno, they didn't detect Aspa until she took her helmet off..."
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    With Kami:

    No I have a clue, I just choose to not give respect to the one who has not earned it. You are sour and bitter for you were given this post. You did not choose to be Kami, since you are fighting your own nature. You have learned nothing, as your time as Kami. A good leader does not take respect with fear. So have i no clue, or am just not a pawn in your foolish attempts of a game.
    Kami doubles over in laughter. It is a hoarse, joyless, mocking laughter. It takes a moment for him to collect himself. "You've got balls, have to admit that. Doesn't make you any less stupid, but it's something", he says. He lifts his mask a bit in order to wipe a tear off the corner of his eye. "There you stand, saying you want me to teach you, yet now you claim I've learned nothing. Spot the contradiction yet?"

    Kami pulls his mask back down and stands up. "Let me tell you a secret: there are only two kinds of gods, those who are born into it, and those who choose to become so. Me, I'm not the former kind. I wasn't given this position, I took it. And the gods above me? They really didn't have a say in it. The guy who decides who goes to Heaven and whoe goes to Hell? Used to be I could wrestle him to the ground with one hand behind my back. Sunny-boy, who looks after the Sun? Limp-wristed bureaucrat who couldn't keep his half-mortal son in check! The guy who rules this quadrant of the universe? A short blue dude with bad sense of humour, and I hear he's been putting on weight lately. Those guys used to fear me. They cowered at the mention of my name!"

    "Now? Now they don't, because now I'm a human and old, and they know I will once wither away and die. And they keep rubbing it on my face, and it pisses me off to no end! Because what this experience has taught me is: fear is what keeps morons from jumping on and off my property and making their inane demands!"


    For a moment, the lookout quakes, the loose stone elements rattling and grinding against each other. The number indicating Kami's power level on Callin's screen oscillates for a moment, as if minute pulses of power escaped from Kami. Iris, who isn't relying on technological gadgets, experiences something different. For a moment, she can see a black humanoid shade hovering behind Kami. Its three eyes flicker fiery red before it fades from view.

    Kami crosses his arms on his chest. "Your first mistake, Tuffle, is that you're not afraid of me. You should, at minimum, be afraid of the possibility I will not teach you what you want, and then you will die a miserable and pointless death because of that. Because the difference between us is: I don't need what you're selling. Even if it's something I might want, I can afford to kick you and all your knowledge off this platform. That's an acceptable price for teaching a bunch of disobedient brats to respect their elders."
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    With Kami:

    You call me an idiot when you yourself can not even differentiate the two different schools that are being talked about here. I did not come to you to learn to be Kami, or to learn to be a sad old man who tries to use his past as a way to justify his present. No I came to you to learn Magic, yet you so love to turn arguments around to try and make you seem so important. If you are so High and Mighty as you claim, then you should not even worry about what I or my friends think of you.

    Callins then moves around as he turns his back to Kami. He seems to focus on the village and its people.

    Now I will not fear you, or even respect you, till you give me proof as to why, for you have done is the opposite. And yet you think I should fear the fact that you may not teach me. HAHA, you are quite the hubris one. There clearly others on this planet who could teach me. You just happened to be my first choice. But I guess I should leave since you only wish to argue, and feign an importance from a forgotten age.
    Callins then walks slowly away, it is a slow enough pace to give Kami enough time to catch him if he so wished.


    Volcano:

    Aspa looks at Oxy with a smile.

    I really like you Oxy, you have a kinder heart then you like to show on the outside. And being 4 makes you just so adorable in my eyes. So birds it is then?


    At Aspa talked with a high amount of respect for Oxy, that she has not shown anyone aside from Callins, then she seems to turn into a slightly more motherly bent, that may seem condescending to Oxy, even though she clearly things he is adorable. Though she ends with a question, as she floats up ready to go. She then also places her Dragonball in a small pouch that was on her thigh.

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    Kami sighs and shakes his head. "Making a speech to the mortals? How cute." He takes the chain off his shoulder and makes a loop at the end. Iris can, of course, see him doing this. "It won't make them any less afraid of me. Because their condemnation or moral indignation will not make me any less able of destroying them." He swings the iron lasso above his head and slings it at Callin with tremendous force. The scouter in Callin's helmet goes wild, as if the chain itself is alive with power level in the hundreds. If he doesn't dodge, the loop will tighten around him and trap his arms against his sides.

    "Or you."
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    Volcano:

    Aspa looks at Oxy with a smile.

    I really like you Oxy, you have a kinder heart then you like to show on the outside. And being 4 makes you just so adorable in my eyes. So birds it is then?


    At Aspa talked with a high amount of respect for Oxy, that she has not shown anyone aside from Callins, then she seems to turn into a slightly more motherly bent, that may seem condescending to Oxy, even though she clearly things he is adorable. Though she ends with a question, as she floats up ready to go. She then also places her Dragonball in a small pouch that was on her thigh.
    Oxy begins hiding behind the androids, as he's both weirded out and slightly frightened by the statement of affection.

    ...Where's Callins?
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    Pokasuu doen'st look very happy at that whole "redeemed line". She inflates a bit, then stomps off.

    Well, that could of gone better. I'm going to go try and change back now.

    So, Artic. That technique you used. Did you create it yourself?
    Artic scratches his head. Sure it's difficult to accept the premise that the immortal ancestor you've known all your life as a powerful force for good (or at least benign and somewhat harmless) was not always as such, but...yeah. Artic will need to learn better diplomacy. It's a reality the time-traveler will have to face in a universe that has only known Buu with the same terror one fears Lord Beerus.

    Actually yes, I did create it myself. Artic answers with a bit of pride in his voice. Still a bit of a work-in-progress. I'd like to be able to curve the energy wave, for one thing.
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    " The guy who decides who goes to Heaven and whoe goes to Hell? Used to be I could wrestle him to the ground with one hand behind my back. Sunny-boy, who looks after the Sun? Limp-wristed bureaucrat who couldn't keep his half-mortal son in check! The guy who rules this quadrant of the universe? A short blue dude with bad sense of humour, and I hear he's been putting on weight lately."
    A focused ray of sunlight alights upon him, and great sonorous voice of divine authority booms, its intonations echoing throughout the sky:
    "COME UP HERE AND SAY THAT AGAIN, *******. LAST TIME I CHECKED, YOU ARE NOT IMMUNE TO THE SUN LIKE ME. AND NORTH KAI'S PUNS ARE AWESOME."
    Then the ray of light receded.

    Volcano
    "Heh. So there IS a soft side to Aspa. Makes sense, there would need to be some common ground after all. and ok, we won't kill the species, looks like we're be environmentalist today. though I'm confused as to how spinning them is any better...."
    "She is right: once you think about it is kind of adorable that Oxyribo is 4. I mean, he might as well still be a child! and look at what he already has done. Imagine what he will do when he is even older!"
    "Yeah really friggin' cute. Its not as if children being turned into martial artists is anything new. Anyways we should get going, this won't solve itself while we stand her chatting around."

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    "....Erm, what do you think? I'm done. Thats what I think Majin Buu is: a redeemed person. It just makes sense."
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    With Kami

    Kami's chain just went through Callins, as if he was not there. His body dropped to the ground, as the sun Kami was there. Though soon the body dissappeared, it was clearly an after image. Callins was gone, his PL was not even detectable. That is till a Ki blade was jutting out of Kami's stomach. Callins had moved behind kami, and generated a blade. He sent it into the old demon's stomach as it stuck out the other end.

    Oxy and the Androids

    He is fighting Kami at the moment. Aspa says as she looks toward kami's look out.

    Is that expected or Normal for Kami? I mean i told Callins to learn magic from him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cavalieredraghi View Post
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    He is fighting Kami at the moment. Aspa says as she looks toward kami's look out.

    Is that expected or Normal for Kami? I mean i told Callins to learn magic from him.
    "....I dunno, magic is usually different from ki stuff, more ritualistic and such if I remember, so unless he is dueling him to see if he is worthy or something....I dunno. Kami is kind of a jerk. He made the Arcosians do menial chores instead of actual training, he called me a "crazy woman" as far as I can recall...can you tell if its a "prove your worthy" fight or a fight-fight? Cause him being a jerk, it might be either one."
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    Aspa

    I don't know, I mean he was there and then gone, then i felt a spike from him, but nothing dangerous. maybe oh..... how would i say that in power levels. about 150ish. nothing to worry about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emperor Ing View Post
    Artic scratches his head. Sure it's difficult to accept the premise that the immortal ancestor you've known all your life as a powerful force for good (or at least benign and somewhat harmless) was not always as such, but...yeah. Artic will need to learn better diplomacy. It's a reality the time-traveler will have to face in a universe that has only known Buu with the same terror one fears Lord Beerus.

    Actually yes, I did create it myself. Artic answers with a bit of pride in his voice. Still a bit of a work-in-progress. I'd like to be able to curve the energy wave, for one thing.
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    He is fighting Kami at the moment. Aspa says as she looks toward kami's look out.

    Is that expected or Normal for Kami? I mean i told Callins to learn magic from him.
    Oxy facepalms.

    Okay. Now we need to add "Go make sure Kami doesn't kill Callins" to the list of options for what we do next.
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    [At the mountainside]

    The Sun Kai's display of power is greatly mitigated by the fact that Kami's mask has dark lenses. As such, it doesn't even blind Kami "Screw you, Sunny-boy", Kami remarks with great distaste.

    However, the sudden ray of light distracted him of Callin long enough to not notice he wasn't caught. Kami notices there's no-one at the end of the chain at about the same moment when Callin strikes him. "Bah." He lets the chain drop to the ground, flexes his abs and the Ki blade that struck him breaks - dispelled by stronger Ki flowing from Kami's body. Callin might notice there's eerie lack of anything resembling blood.

    And then Kami draws his own knifes. The motion is so fast it sends a sharp shock through the air and Callin might be struck by it even if the dodges the blades. At the same instant, the Tuffle's scouter gives a warning - it's as if Kami's, or rather, his knives' power level jumped close to thousand. They're likely much more dangerous than their relatively mundane appearance hinted.
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    Oxy facepalms.

    Okay. Now we need to add "Go make sure Kami doesn't kill Callins" to the list of options for what we do next.
    Oh that is strong, but unless we know something dangerous is about to happen, we should let them be.

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    [At the mountainside]

    The Sun Kai's display of power is greatly mitigated by the fact that Kami's mask has dark lenses. As such, it doesn't even blind Kami "Screw you, Sunny-boy", Kami remarks with great distaste.

    However, the sudden ray of light distracted him of Callin long enough to not notice he was caught. Kami notices there's no-one at the end of the chain at about the same moment when Callin strikes him. "Bah." He lets the chain drop to the ground, flexes his abs and the Ki blade that struck him breaks - dispelled by stronger Ki flowing from Kami's body. Callin might notice there's eerie lack of anything resembling blood.

    And then Kami draws his own knifes. The motion is so fast it sends a sharp shock through the air and Callin might be struck by it even if the dodges the blades. At the same instant, the Tuffle's scouter gives a warning - it's as if Kami's, or rather, his knives' power level jumped close to thousand. They're likely much more dangerous than their relatively mundane appearance hinted.
    The shockwave in the air was easily absorbed by Callins' armor. He knew it would be, which means he was able to focus his energy on dodging the knifes.He launched himself at the knifes, and twisted around them, contorting his body to fit into the spaces where he'd be safe. He was underneath Kami by the time he dodged all the knifes.

    with a sharp uppercut, Callins tried to cup Kami in the chin, while launching a Ki shotgun with the strike.

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