Boku No hero Academia I: because it deserves a thread.

[Scowling Dragon]

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I ****in' haaaaaaaaate you. I hate you so much. Had me more on edge than I already was the entire chapter!

God what a fantastic chapter though. Deku figures out how to save Bakugou without making Bakugou go insane from being saved by him AGAIN. We see that both All Might and All For One are weaker, and it actually feels like All For One will lose here...we also see at least part of All For One's quirk manipulation power is to force a quirk to turn on, and that appearance wise it's GIANT ****ING BLACK NEEDLE FINGERS AAAAAH.

This is so great.

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I made things more exiting for you!

Well then mission accomplished!

I don't actually get the impression that All for One will loose here. I think he is doing the classic "Wait before you witness my true power!" sort of deal. But to be fair, so is All Might.

Its getting more and more intense, so thats cool. Im glad they added a rescue to this, so its not just bareknuckle brawling. Superheroes just mashing it out is dull.

[HMS Invincible]

Is nobody watching the show? Seems all the talk is about the manga.

[LaZodiac]

Is nobody watching the show? Seems all the talk is about the manga.

The manga is the most up to date thing. I watch the anime there just isn't much to say beyond "seeing all these things animated is fantastic".

[Spacewolf]

Is nobody watching the show? Seems all the talk is about the manga.

Yea usually watch it then make a quick post on how much I like some part of it.

And this week shall be no different, that fight was great I was expecting them to put in some random extra bits to take up some extra times but I think it was a shot for shot the manga which I think works better as it makes it obvious how powerful Byak is for Midoriya to only be able to take three shots from him. Byak also seems more villainous in this version even though he's not threatening to kill everyone as often, possibly due to the sound giving his attacks more impact. Baby Midoriya is still cute as ever.

Also weird how they are using Todorokis old design I kind of figured that was supposed to be retconned.

[LaZodiac]

Yea usually watch it then make a quick post on how much I like some part of it.

And this week shall be no different, that fight was great I was expecting them to put in some random extra bits to take up some extra times but I think it was a shot for shot the manga which I think works better as it makes it obvious how powerful Byak is for Midoriya to only be able to take three shots from him. Byak also seems more villainous in this version even though he's not threatening to kill everyone as often, possibly due to the sound giving his attacks more impact. Baby Midoriya is still cute as ever.

Also weird how they are using Todorokis old design I kind of figured that was supposed to be retconned.

Not retconned, just changed. His original hero costume was one that emphasized his distaste for that side of him. He's gotten better so it's gone. Todoroki typically doesn't use his hero costume anyway.

[Spacewolf]

Not retconned, just changed. His original hero costume was one that emphasized his distaste for that side of him. He's gotten better so it's gone. Todoroki typically doesn't use his hero costume anyway.

Ah it's actually his hero costume I actually never realised that I had thought it was just his old design before it got retconned to what it is now. This does make more sense.

[lord_khaine]

The manga is the most up to date thing. I watch the anime there just isn't much to say beyond "seeing all these things animated is fantastic"

I just recently got started on the anime, it really is fantastic. They they a grand job of catching the essence of everyone.

[LaZodiac]

Speaking of essence, a new chapter with better translation is out.

Some explanation has been provided that explains some things: the person talking when All For One jams his fingers into Kurogiri is All For One, explaining how the Quirk he's forcing to turn on works. It's not explicitly Kurogiri's power, it's All For One basically using him as a catalyst.

[Spacewolf]

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Argh now that's bad timing. What's going to happen?

[Scowling Dragon]

Wow

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All Might doesn't play around when the chips are in the dip!

[Spacewolf]

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I wonder if All for Ones power stopped working because One for All has a close range power cancel or if he was just pissing himself so badly he couldn't concentrate.

[LaZodiac]

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We learn that magnet dude's power more specifically, and it's kind of cute how it's limited. Our heroes escape...though Mt Lady gets her face smashed in oh no D:.

Also oh no..All Might smashes All For One's mask open, revealing his ****ed up head. Also something I'd like to note is that...All For One's head is basically a neck stump. he barely has any head actually THERE. He has a mouth and some scar tissue from where the area above his mouth got wasted. But now All Might's power is shutting down...and All For One taunts him. This isn't the end, not by a long shot.

[Coidzor]

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We also learn why he looks like a sleazy porn producer, too, with a power like that.

I'm sure there's some kind of meaning behind a Mountain getting hit with a Magician, but I'm blanking.

The amount of "oh god no" on the Yandere's face was priceless, though.

[Haruspex_Pariah]

So I just got into the series after seeing bits of it on TV and the internet.

Kind of interesting in that the premise, if I'm understanding it right, is that most people have quirks. So the idea of a mundane hero ala Batman isn't even an option (otherwise Deku wouldn't have been so anguished to begin with, and All Might initially suggests he consider becoming a policeman).

Deku's late "development" of a quirk is something that the majority of the characters seem to have glossed over after the initial surprise. Frog Girl pointed out the similarities between Deku and All Might, Todoroki got close with his suggestion that Deku was All Might's illegitimate kid (lol), Bakugou had some internal monologue about it. I'm not surprised if at least one of the villains has already clued in to the truth, they do seem to have decent intel all around.

When the Forest retreat was announced, I kind of guessed that they would be attacked soon. Superhero school kids can't catch a break.

[LaZodiac]

I am absolutely certain that All For One is aware of what Deku's secret is. He seems like a guy who'd just be able to tell.

And yeah, that's something I actually find quite interesting. There's no real sign of mundane heroes. The closest we get to that is Eraserhead who's power is "turn you normal vision" and his own martial ability. Kinda like that girl who's got the zoom eye quirk but is covered with all that tech of hers.

Them glossing over Deku's late bloomer status is totally reasonable, honestly. I know you're not digging at it I just feel it's worth mentioning that though they say it's odd for that TO happen, it's...not impossible. So that's cool. Also it says a LOT about Todoroki's character that he immediately goes "oh you must be All Might's bastard son". Hot damn.

[lord_khaine]

And yeah, that's something I actually find quite interesting. There's no real sign of mundane heroes. The closest we get to that is Eraserhead who's power is "turn you normal vision" and his own martial ability. Kinda like that girl who's got the zoom eye quirk but is covered with all that tech of hers.

That on the other hand is not something i really found unusual, the lack of mundane heroes that is.
In a world where 80 % of everyone got a quick, and heroes are selected from the top percentes of those, then a mundane hero is about the same as a onearmed football player.

Honestly the main reason for why Batman has managed to survive is a meter thick plot armor. And i dont think its coincidence that later media has given him more and more regular armor, to the point where he is getting closer to Iron man than anything else.

Eraserheads quick is a such really strong, as it forces most people down on a level where they are not familiar with fighting, but he is mainly lucky that almost noone uses guns.

[LaZodiac]

That on the other hand is not something i really found unusual, the lack of mundane heroes that is.
In a world where 80 % of everyone got a quick, and heroes are selected from the top percentes of those, then a mundane hero is about the same as a onearmed football player.

Honestly the main reason for why Batman has managed to survive is a meter thick plot armor. And i dont think its coincidence that later media has given him more and more regular armor, to the point where he is getting closer to Iron man than anything else.

Eraserheads quick is a such really strong, as it forces most people down on a level where they are not familiar with fighting, but he is mainly lucky that almost noone uses guns.

Hmm, good point.

Also to be fair to Eraserhead that's a Japan thing. Guns aren't that common over there, and if I had to guess his cloths are bullet resistant anyway. Considering the fact that they can make a gauntlet that collects sweet that works with Bakugou's power to fire long range explosions, Eraserhead's cloths being armored while still light for his acrobatics is perfectly reasonable.

[Scowling Dragon]

Something thats beginning to creep over me and make me somewhat uncomfortable is the conflicting theming (This is the part where I give some critique to the show and I get cast out as a Blasphemer).

I do prefer heroes have actual power to stop plot armor ( *COUGH COUGH* Batman *COUGH*), but seeing the vastly unbalanced in powers characters fight against each other in animated form really makes me find the whole school system stupid.

Like in a sense the message DOES become "Who gives a **** about your heroic intentions, power IS all that matters". Maybe skill with your power, but just power nonetheless. The fact that Kachan doesn't get any sort of coaching about his obvious mad bull insanity as fun to watch as it is, just feels worse in animated format. Brings out the flaws in the premise.

Then there is the Uber master Race of Todoroki, and I just start feeling terrible for the team he defeats with no effort. Like what where they supposed to do? What did they do wrong? Thats why of course they cut away before the coaching, to both save time but also because this is just a world where people are just born better then others, so all that All Might could say was "Sorry".

Its as if One for All is a visual shorthand for "More Effort". Instead of reinforcing the importance of the true nature of a hero through writing, it instead gives it a power that just literally runs on heroism.

[LaZodiac]

It's a little more complex than that. Deku wouldn't be able to do anything he does if he didn't have One For All, but he wouldn't have One For All if he didn't have the heroic drive to earn it. That's what matters, not his powers. That's also part of what Todoroki's deal is. Yes, he's effortlessly quite powerful...but that lack of effort is clearly bad. It makes him stoic, friendless, and generally a closed off *******. Deku helped fix that by showing him what spirit is about, why you must have passion.

As for what the team that fought Todoroki could of done? If it was a real situation: retreat, wait for back up, try to sneak in without being spotted since Todoroki might not know they're there if it was a real situation. For the test itself...I don't recall it being said they can't leave the building. Sneak up it that way. It's possible to dodge his ice freeze if you see it coming and react in time. Todoroki's still crazy powerful yeah, but he's not unbeatable.

Also, they DO try to coach Bakugou with his anger issues. It's just that, surprisingly, deep seated emotional problems are really hard to get out.

[Spacewolf]

I'm not sure the moral of the story is that you can win no matter what with just resolve, it's more you have a responsibility to use the power you have to do the best you can. The best character to illustrate this is Yaoyorozu, her power compared to the others in quite weak (Especially in direct combat) yet she scores remarkably high in just about every test they do (1st in the overall test Eraserhead has them do on the first day) except when she started losing faith in herself thanks to comparing her abilities to the more combat focused characters and tried to beat them outright. Once she got her confidence back she's once again probably the most useful character in the next arc. Despite not being able to match the main three for damage

[Scowling Dragon]

It's a little more complex than that. Deku wouldn't be able to do anything he does if he didn't have One For All, but he wouldn't have One For All if he didn't have the heroic drive to earn it.

See but in terms of theme and structure its not the same. Its just some guy being nice to him in a sense, almost dues ex machina. "I choose you because I like what your doing". As All Might Said before, he could have just passed it along to somebody with another quirk and make an uber god.

Like I know that in this world Quirks are natural, but if say if Deku gets into an industrial accident saving somebody (And gets powers that way) when other heroes don't thats more of a poetic sort of thing, as apposed to just being granted them. Its very similar in practice but different in outcome.

That's also part of what Todoroki's deal is. Yes, he's effortlessly quite powerful...but that lack of effort is clearly bad. It makes him stoic, friendless, and generally a closed off *******. Deku helped fix that by showing him what spirit is about, why you must have passion.

See and passion is not the same thing as a heroic spirit. A character can have passion for power, passion for strength, but thats not what heroics is. You don't need to be PASSIONATE for heroism because a hero is drawn too it naturally. A hero is not passionate about saving people as much as he can't let people get hurt whilst having that power to save them.

It's possible to dodge his ice freeze if you see it coming and react in time. Todoroki's still crazy powerful yeah, but he's not unbeatable.

True, but "Girl who can not be seen only when nude" and "Boy with tail" can do nearly **** all if he hits them once, and barely matter even if they don't.

Also, they DO try to coach Bakugou with his anger issues. It's just that, surprisingly, deep seated emotional problems are really hard to get out.

When do they ever do that? They seem to let him get away with quite allot just based off his quirk.

I'm not sure the moral of the story is that you can win no matter what with just resolve, it's more you have a responsibility to use the power you have to do the best you can.

Im not talking about resolve. See my point above.

Il go deeper into my point later, but something just doesn't sit right with me.

[Haruspex_Pariah]

See but in terms of theme and structure its not the same. Its just some guy being nice to him in a sense, almost dues ex machina. "I choose you because I like what your doing". As All Might Said before, he could have just passed it along to somebody with another quirk and make an uber god.

Like I know that in this world Quirks are natural, but if say if Deku gets into an industrial accident saving somebody (And gets powers that way) when other heroes don't thats more of a poetic sort of thing, as apposed to just being granted them. Its very similar in practice but different in outcome.

What? How is a contrived accident origin story any more poetic than All Might judging him worthy and passing on the quirk? The fact that he didn't pass it on to someone else is the whole point! He wasn't looking to create a superbeing, he was looking for someone he believed to have a suitably heroic nature (the inability to ignore someone in trouble if you can help, for one).

[LaZodiac]

True, but "Girl who can not be seen only when nude" and "Boy with tail" can do nearly **** all if he hits them once, and barely matter even if they don't.

When do they ever do that? They seem to let him get away with quite allot just based off his quirk.

Haruspex already covered the first half so I'll get this. Ask yourself a serious question. Could ANYONE in this class do anything if they were caught in the ice the way Tailbro and Invisible Girl were? It could of been anyone. Even Deku and Bakugou could of gotten caught out by it. If anything it's a lesson that you have to expect the unexpected.

Literally every time All Might is on screen with Bakugou he says something along the lines of "you're really good at this but you need to control that temper". They've talked about disciplining him as well, we've just never seen it because at the end of the day he's not our protagonist and seeing Bakugou get angry at a therapist would probably be a bit too real right now.

[lord_khaine]

Something thats beginning to creep over me and make me somewhat uncomfortable is the conflicting theming (This is the part where I give some critique to the show and I get cast out as a Blasphemer).

I do prefer heroes have actual power to stop plot armor ( *COUGH COUGH* Batman *COUGH*), but seeing the vastly unbalanced in powers characters fight against each other in animated form really makes me find the whole school system stupid.

Like in a sense the message DOES become "Who gives a **** about your heroic intentions, power IS all that matters". Maybe skill with your power, but just power nonetheless. The fact that Kachan doesn't get any sort of coaching about his obvious mad bull insanity as fun to watch as it is, just feels worse in animated format. Brings out the flaws in the premise.

Sadly out regular lynchmob is busy hunting shippers, so we have to deal with you like a normal faithful fan until they gets back..

Anyway, what you point out as flaws are actually what i think are the things that give the serie so much depth and realism, making it stand out sharply against most of its competitors.
Because at some point its straight up a plot point. In a lot of ways many of the heroes are not really heroes in the normal meaning of the word. If you replace that word with celebrity or elite atlete then a lot of the interactions and behavior suddenly gets another meaning.
Because as such it is a crappy world, everyone gets a spin on the power wheel from birth, and that will to a large degree influence your path in life. Bakugo rolled a 20 during power generation.
And the result is him having been worshipped and praised most of his life, twisting him into the mess he is today. I mean, just look at what he generally got away, his power makes him a A+ citizen that can get away with a lot of things most other cant.
Just like Endevor, who both show how a lot of heroes are mainly in for the money and fame, as well as how much they can get away with.

Then there is the Uber master Race of Todoroki, and I just start feeling terrible for the team he defeats with no effort. Like what where they supposed to do? What did they do wrong? Thats why of course they cut away before the coaching, to both save time but also because this is just a world where people are just born better then others, so all that All Might could say was "Sorry".

And i dont really get the point about Todoroki. That some people are better than others are one of the starting points in the manga, its the same as if you randomly pick 2 people out of a population to fight. If one is a 120 kg farmer and the other is a 55 kg girl then is only one possible outcome when you put them into a boxing ring.

Yes, he's effortlessly quite powerful...but that lack of effort is clearly bad. It makes him stoic, friendless, and generally a closed off *******. Deku helped fix that by showing him what spirit is about, why you must have passion.

Do disagree about the assesment of Todoriki, in some ways he is as messed up as Bakugo, but just because he is a deeply introvert person does not make him a jerk. He newer gloat about his power, newer even think about trying to use it to push people around, and generally remains rather polite.

[LaZodiac]

Do disagree about the assesment of Todoriki, in some ways he is as messed up as Bakugo, but just because he is a deeply introvert person does not make him a jerk. He newer gloat about his power, newer even think about trying to use it to push people around, and generally remains rather polite.

Well he seemed kinda jerkish at first. He got better when we learned his Dad's basically a eugenist.

[lord_khaine]

Well he seemed kinda jerkish at first. He got better when we learned his Dad's basically a eugenist.

Where? i dont recall a single page of him acting jerkish. He might have been a little withdraw, but thats not the same.

His dad is not a eugenist though, he has no plans for improving the human race. Just for producing a heir that can defeat All Might.
He is a monster that in some ways are as bad or worse than the villains.

[Scowling Dragon]

I didn't mean what I said exactly with specifics. That was just me trying to put a word on what I meant...

I think case being that the show is still more of an action shonen then a superhero show. Thats about it.

[lord_khaine]

I didn't mean what I said exactly with specifics. That was just me trying to put a word on what I meant...

Hah, your syntax is almost as bad as mine

I think case being that the show is still more of an action shonen then a superhero show. Thats about it.

Anyway, i still cant agree on that point of view, mainly because i would claim that among the main characters then we do have a few genuine heroes. People who are actually motivated by saving other.

[Scowling Dragon]

And most Shonnen protagonists also care about protecting people in one form or another. Its the way the story is told and the world is generated, as well as the action.

Like the school competes against each other people that are supposed to be basically working together. Thats a basic Shonnen Trope but not a Superhero trope. Yes at the moment comics are overflowing with "Hero VS Hero" garbage but thats not a good thing.

Like we never even GET too see the heroes practice rescue training because that doesn't involve fighting. I would make much more exercises about preventing civilian casualties, and focus on refining their powers, rather then just ubering them. And once again I start to pity invisible girl. Heck the final exam is a tournament arc composed of different fights.


Also the villains just don't have plots outside of just attacking the heroes in many fashions.

Like say even if this was just Supercop school, it doesn't function like one would think one would. If anybody ever asked you why you wanted to become a cop and the response was "Because I want to prove how superior I am", or even started yelling crazy sort of stuff during combat exercises one would think they would get kicked out instantly.

Which is why I argue that its much more...stock Shonnen then I initially thought it was. Seeing it in animated format really brought that out to me.

[Coidzor]

I think Tail Dude is the closest to a mundane. Because he's essentially just got a 5th limb.