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    Default Summoner Class - WIP [PEACH]

    So, this is my first run at creating a Summoner :D

    It might be a little bit weird, but I'm still working on it, and I would appreciate feedback in the form of constructive criticism. :)
    Last edited by DracoKnight; 2015-07-27 at 01:17 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DracoKnight View Post
    So, this is my first run at creating a Summoner :D

    It might be a little bit weird, but I'm still working on it, and I would appreciate feedback in the form of constructive criticism. :)
    I like the overall feel of this class, but aren't the only 1/3 casters the Eldritch Knight and the Arcane Trickster?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GandalfTheWhite View Post
    I like the overall feel of this class, but aren't the only 1/3 casters the Eldritch Knight and the Arcane Trickster?
    That is correct, but I wanted to balance out the fact that you are summoning things to fight for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DracoKnight View Post
    That is correct, but I wanted to balance out the fact that you are summoning things to fight for you.
    M. Yes. I do have to say, I like the 20th level feature.

    Also, I would say that this would need the power taken down a bit, except that you've tied up their action pretty decently in Summoning.

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    What does everyone else think of DracoKnight's Summoner?

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    One of the things that really stand out to me is that at level 1 they can summon something 5 times a day. It also has a couple of odd features. Namely a charm ability and an tandem attack ability. It seems like you are giving this an a Battle Dancer vibe and I think it detracts from the idea. Finally the CR progression is really exponential if not a bit much for 11 times a day or infinite at level 20.

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    Default Re: Summoner Class - WIP [PEACH]

    How long does a summoned creature last?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belac93 View Post
    How long does a summoned creature last?
    Until it dies or you dismiss it. That's just what I have right now, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amnoriath View Post
    One of the things that really stand out to me is that at level 1 they can summon something 5 times a day. It also has a couple of odd features. Namely a charm ability and an tandem attack ability. It seems like you are giving this an a Battle Dancer vibe and I think it detracts from the idea. Finally the CR progression is really exponential if not a bit much for 11 times a day or infinite at level 20.
    I don't want to bring down the CR cap, so how would you restrict the amount of summons? Maybe Proficiency Bonus + 1/2 Charisma? Or maybe straight Charisma Modifier?
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    Are there any other thoughts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DracoKnight View Post
    I don't want to bring down the CR cap, so how would you restrict the amount of summons? Maybe Proficiency Bonus + 1/2 Charisma? Or maybe straight Charisma Modifier?
    Just go with straight Charisma mod. That's what I'd do. That's 5 summons a long rest when you max out CHA.

    Also, can you only have 1 summon at a time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GandalfTheWhite View Post
    Just go with straight Charisma mod. That's what I'd do. That's 5 summons a long rest when you max out CHA.
    M'kay.

    Quote Originally Posted by GandalfTheWhite View Post
    Also, can you only have 1 summon at a time?
    That is correct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GandalfTheWhite View Post
    Just go with straight Charisma mod. That's what I'd do. That's 5 summons a long rest when you max out CHA.

    Also, can you only have 1 summon at a time?
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