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    Default "Durkula"... I don't like it

    Durkula. It sounds like a belch and a derp combined into a single utterance of complete non-impressiveness.
    Dracula sounds awe-inspiring. Durkon sounds lawful. Combined, they thus sound awful (Q.E.D. ).

    I propose we rename the being that is now using Durkon's body to "Helpriest", combining High Priest and Hel into one word. All opposed?
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    Default Re: "Durkula"... I don't like it

    I don't have a problem with "Durkula"--as portmanteau names go, it's not terrible. "Helpriest" just sounds silly, IMHO.

    If you object to Durkula why don't you just use the acronym HPOH (High Priest of Hel) like many already do?

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    Not opposing. Many others won't argue with you either. Others who were not comfortable with Durkula reported that it sounds like a comic character called Duckula, which I don't know myself but agree it sounds (even more) ridicolous. In case you know the advertisement for the swiss sweets brand "RICOLA" - just imagine someone with a cheery voice yodel-shouting "Durkula!!!" and you'll dislike that nickname even more.
    In short, Durkula doesn't fit this ultimately evil abomination at all. The name stuck, though, maybe even BECAUSE it is a complete mockery.

    We'll have to live with it until Hpoh reveals his true vampire name. I'm sure Rich has one prepared, probably for Hpohs nameplate at the moot.

    I also don't like it and obviously I'm going with the abbreviation of HPoH. Or, for short, Hpoh which sounds in my mind like the soothing sound Hpoh makes when he breaths.
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    HPOH is not really a name for me, in the sense that I can't pronounce it properly. Although it is favored above Durkula.
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    Default Re: "Durkula"... I don't like it

    I like the name Durkula because it is funny and memorable. The rando hijacking Durkon's body may as well have a silly nickname.

    Durkula. Durkula. Durkula. Three cheers to whomever coined it.

    Edit: If my forum search is accurate, it was hamishspence.
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    You can call him Derpula for all I care, as long as I understand who you're talking about. Just call him anything you like, if others pick it up, congratulations, Durkon's vampire version now has another name. That's how nicknames work, it's a group process...

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    I like Durkula. It's fitting.

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    Others who were not comfortable with Durkula reported that it sounds like a comic character called Duckula, which I don't know myself but agree it sounds (even more) ridicolous.
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    "Durkula" sounds like a moniker crafted specifically to bring grief to all those who cared about Durkon in life, and to mock the long and hallowed tradition of the English language consisting of generally tolerable words. It is an embarrassment to Creation. It sounds like a bad joke that was tossed into a bonfire full of dying puppies, survived, and swore vengeance against all living things for allowing such an event to transpire.

    Maybe that's a little hyperbolic. But I really don't like it and I earnestly wish it would go away. It sounds ridiculous. Just call the High Priest of Hel by his title, or go with HPoH for short.
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    Just call him anything you like, if others pick it up, congratulations, Durkon's vampire version now has another name. That's how nicknames work, it's a group process...
    Well of course, I am not forbidding anyone from calling him anything. I can't. I am, however, trying to speed up the very group process you are referring to by calling attention to my intention...
    I am trying to be a motivator - for a change of nomenclature!

    (And yes, I am hoping my rhymes will help people associate Helpriest with something easy to remember.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ceaon View Post
    Durkula. It sounds like a belch and a derp combined into a single utterance of complete non-impressiveness.
    Dracula sounds awe-inspiring. Durkon sounds lawful. Combined, they thus sound awful (Q.E.D. ).

    I propose we rename the being that is now using Durkon's body to "Helpriest", combining High Priest and Hel into one word. All opposed?
    No, because "Durkula" refers to the vampire looking dwarf we see running around, and "High Priest of Hel" refers to the little man living in his head. If you called Durkula "Helpriest" then it would be too easy to confuse him with the High Priest of Hel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ceaon View Post
    Well of course, I am not forbidding anyone from calling him anything. I can't. I am, however, trying to speed up the very group process you are referring to by calling attention to my intention...
    I am trying to be a motivator - for a change of nomenclature!
    This never works, though. If you campaign for a nickname, it feels forced. They need to pop up organically and in context.
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    No, because "Durkula" refers to the vampire looking dwarf we see running around, and "High Priest of Hel" refers to the little man living in his head. If you called Durkula "Helpriest" then it would be too easy to confuse him with the High Priest of Hel.
    ... What? We have two different names for them? Did I miss a meeting or something?

    It would almost work, but then why do we see the dwarf vampire body being called the High Priest of Hel, by Hel herself even, here?

    Quote Originally Posted by hroþila View Post
    This never works, though. If you campaign for a nickname, it feels forced. They need to pop up organically and in context.
    Well, I guess, but at this point I would be happy with anything that is not Durkula. So even if Helpriest doesn't catch on, I am just hoping some other name will come up organically by discussing it.
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    Some people call him Darkon. I prefer HPoH, myself.
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    I've always preferred my coinage of Durk Malackssen, myself. But then, I have a weird sense of humor, and don't really care if anyone else adopts my nickname for him or not.

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    If you like mythological references, you could call him Garmr, which is "the blood-stained watchdog that guards Hel's gate".
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    I never liked the way Durkula rolls off the tongue. I prefer Dwarfula.
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    Quote Originally Posted by littlebum2002 View Post
    No, because "Durkula" refers to the vampire looking dwarf we see running around, and "High Priest of Hel" refers to the little man living in his head.
    Until and unless the vampire dwarf body running around is *not* controlled by the spirit you're talking about, what's the point of having separate names for them? Furthermore, if Durkon regains control but is still a vampire, I have no problem with calling him "Durkon" from that point onward, because that's who he is regardless of what form his body takes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ceaon View Post
    ... What? We have two different names for them? Did I miss a meeting or something?

    It would almost work, but then why do we see the dwarf vampire body being called the High Priest of Hel, by Hel herself even, here?
    Hel isn't talking to the animated body though, but to the soul running the "robot" (Durkon's body), ie the HPoH. What we the audience see however, could be contrued as Durkula. Basically at this point Durkula is the fake-personality we see presented to the outside world, the I-am-totally-Durkon-just-with-small-letter-evil-on-my-character-sheet. HPOH is the actual separate soul piloting the robot called Durkula around with a imprisoned Durkon trapped in what used to be his body.

    So we have 3 "characters". HPOH, the vampire soul/entity in control. Durkula, the fake character the HPOH presents to the outside world, and Durkon, the Dwarf cleric we all(?) miss. Whether it's strictly necessary to separate them I guess is a personal choice. But that's how I tend to view it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snowblizz View Post
    [...] Durkula is the fake-personality we see presented to the outside world, the I-am-totally-Durkon-just-with-small-letter-evil-on-my-character-sheet. [...]

    So we have 3 "characters". HPOH, [...] Durkula, the fake character the HPOH presents to the outside world, and Durkon[...]. Whether it's strictly necessary to separate them I guess is a personal choice. But that's how I tend to view it.
    That actually makes some sense. And also, HOORAY! Durkulas days are counted and over. Hpoh is just in the last comic starting to drop his disguise. I bet in the next few comics, he won't bother to maintain the illusion of being Durkon, since it wouldn't work with Roy in the observer's gallery.
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    Well, I guess, but at this point I would be happy with anything that is not Durkula. So even if Helpriest doesn't catch on, I am just hoping some other name will come up organically by discussing it.
    Actually, it was Durkula that came up "organically", in one of the first reactions to the strip #878, and it remained since. You don't like it, that's fine. You are not alone; not even the first one to urge to abandon such ''goofy'' nickname. But please have in mind that others just like it. It's both the most straightfoward way to describe the original bearer of the body and a shout-out to the very first named idea behind it at the same time. Sounds ridiculous? Don't pronounce it aloud
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    You could always take the Peelee route and simply call him, "the vampire" until officially named.

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    I knew about it to some extent already, but I'm a bit surprised at the antipathy for "Durkula" here. I've personally called him the High Priest of Hel or HPoH for short ever since 946, but that's because that's the closest thing we have to an in-comic term for him. It doesn't represent any particular hostility towards "Durkula".
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    Hel isn't talking to the animated body though, but to the soul running the "robot" (Durkon's body), ie the HPoH. What we the audience see however, could be contrued as Durkula. Basically at this point Durkula is the fake-personality we see presented to the outside world, the I-am-totally-Durkon-just-with-small-letter-evil-on-my-character-sheet. HPOH is the actual separate soul piloting the robot called Durkula around with a imprisoned Durkon trapped in what used to be his body.

    So we have 3 "characters". HPOH, the vampire soul/entity in control. Durkula, the fake character the HPOH presents to the outside world, and Durkon, the Dwarf cleric we all(?) miss. Whether it's strictly necessary to separate them I guess is a personal choice. But that's how I tend to view it.
    This is exactly what I meant, said better than I ever could, and how I see it usually represented on the forums.


    Also, as previously mentioned, it's entirely possible that "durkula" will have no need for existence any more and we can just go with "durkon" and "HPoH"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ceaon View Post
    HPOH is not really a name for me, in the sense that I can't pronounce it properly.
    Also, it's jargon - its meaning isn't self-evident and thus it's divisive. "Helpriest" is much better - even if "Hel" isn't self-evident to all, "priest" is (unlike "HP").

    So yeah, I like it.

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    No, because "Durkula" refers to the vampire looking dwarf we see running around, and "High Priest of Hel" refers to the little man living in his head.
    What's an example of where this distinction needs to be made? I could ask you every time you say "Roy" if you're referring to the fighter you see running around, or the little "Roy" living in his head, but it never seems to make a difference.

    The only thing I can see different about the High Priest (as opposed to Roy) is that he has an additional stowaway inside his head, but we already have a name for him: "Durkon".

    Also, regarding the "fake persona" thing: I'm a somewhat different person to my boss, my girlfriend, my parents, my God, and so forth - just as the High Priest is. I've never felt the need to give these people different names; I just note, when it's relevant, that I'm a somewhat different person to different people, and it works just fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blunk View Post
    Also, it's jargon - its meaning isn't self-evident and thus it's divisive. "Helpriest" is much better - even if "Hel" isn't self-evident to all, "priest" is (unlike "HP").

    So yeah, I like it.

    What's an example of where this distinction needs to be made? I could ask you every time you say "Roy" if you're referring to the fighter you see running around, or the little "Roy" living in his head, but it never seems to make a difference.

    The only thing I can see different about the High Priest (as opposed to Roy) is that he has an additional stowaway inside his head, but we already have a name for him: "Durkon".

    Also, regarding the "fake persona" thing: I'm a somewhat different person to my boss, my girlfriend, my parents, my God, and so forth - just as the High Priest is. I've never felt the need to give these people different names; I just note, when it's relevant, that I'm a somewhat different person to different people, and it works just fine.
    I very much agree with this, except for the bit about "HPoH" being jargon. It's no different than OOTS, really - it's simply the acronym for the High Priest of Hel's name.
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    I use the High Priest of Hel simply because that's the best thing to a name the comic has given him. I prefer not to use any forum created nicknames. I also steadfastly refuse to abbreviate the High Priest of Hel.
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    What a coincidence. Durkula the character seems crafted specifically to bring grief to all those who cared about Durkon in life, too. What a fitting coincidence
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