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    Default Pokémon Thread XXV: Adorable Eugenics Simulator

    Pokémon: Adorable Eugenics Simulator!

    Pictured: the only Pichu kept out of over 8000 hatched. Don't tell me you don't know how it got there, Day Care Man...

    The Last Thread: Anything Goes!

    These are friend codes (May be out of date/incomplete: If they are, please PM me with your codes and I'll fix them). For your friends. If you're not on here? It means you're not friendly. Or that for whatever reason your codes didn't get put here. If you're not here, just mention it whenever you can (poke me with a PM if I don't get you up in a couple of days, the thread moves fast and I don't like thread-digging much). Additions in the thread will be added to the end of the respective list, and then will (if I remember) be re-alphabetized... later.

    Friend codes, for the uninitiated, are how you connect with other players on Nintendo systems. The 3DS uses one Friend Code for the whole system: register a friend, and you'll be able to connect with them whenever you're playing the same (or at least compatible) game, whether that's X/Y, OR/AS, or even Smash or Mario Kart.

    Friend Codes and Safaris:
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    To use the Friend Safari, you need to have defeated the Elite Four, and both you and your friend must have added each other. For more details, see here.
    GitPName Code CharacterName 3DS(Mii)Name SafariType Pokémon1 Pokémon2 Pokémon3
    Alaris 1907-9395-1731 Tom Alaris Flying Farfetch'd Swanna
    Aotrs 5172-0494-3728 Bleakbane Normal Lillipup Kecleon Smeargle
    Arcran 2294-3882-2896 Arcran Water Octillery Wartortle Azumarill
    Armaius 3239-3640-9568 Timothy Ice Spheal Beartic Lapras
    AstralFire(Full) 0834-1672-7022 Adorabelle Cinder Bug Ledyba Volbeat Venomoth
    AtlanteanTroll 4055-3788-4115 Fresca Normal Lillipup Loudred
    bluewind95 0473-9066-8078 Raziel Kallie Grass Tangela Swadloon Gogoat
    boj0 1693-1768-6943 boj0 boj0 Fairy Swirlix Togepi Floette
    Burley 1547-6257-5822
    Burnerpower 0645-6906-6047 Chase Burner Fire Pansear Pyroar Braixen
    ChaosArchon 4742-5730-4052
    Codswallop 1650-2047-0584 Dan Ghost Lampent Phantump Spiritomb
    CynanMachae 2964-9109-7883 Cynan Pancham Hariyama Mienfoo Pancham
    DMan7733 0104-0178-9108 Dennis Psychic Duosion Espurr Munna
    DarkTira 4012-4193-6629 Flair DarkTira Grass Ivysaur Sunkern Quilladin
    DarkLightDragon 3110-5232-7003 Gwendolyn DLD2 Water Krabby Floatzel Azumarill
    Derjuin 2063-0607-0374 Gwen Derjuin Flying Tropius Doduo Tranquill
    DiegoHavoc 5343-7951-5809 Diana Diego Ghost Lampent Phantump Spiritomb
    Dihan 3909-7507-9532 Cai Bryn Fairy Kirlia Mawile Floette
    Drakenkin 1220-6369-1867 RC Steel Forretress Magneton Klefki
    Dvil 1891-1492-0775 Lorzo Ghost Shuppet Pumpkaboo Dusclops
    Elhann 4656-7012-2957 Afo Afo Normal Lillipup Loudred Ditto
    EmperorIng 1134-7922-2243 Rand EmpI Ground Phanpy Dugtrio Palpitoad
    FallenGeek 2938-7158-7152 UberGeek Fairy Dedenne Mawile Floette
    FoolishTeeth 2965-0036-6655 Jerome 80s Flying Farfetch'd Woobat Rufflet
    Forrestfire 0044-4109-2187 Linae Normal Kecleon Dunsparce Smeargle
    Freudianship 0791-1490-0816 Victoria Ice Delibird Bergmite Piloswine
    Gengy 1762-3248-0955 Genaur (Redacted) Dark Pawniard Crawdaunt Liepard
    geonova 3625-8744-4346 Geo Geo Water Wartortle Panpour Poliwhirl
    GiftJeraff 0662-3715-4355 Venkman Fighting Mankey Throh Hariyama
    Goldfly 1203-9717-6298 Gold Gold Electric Pikachu Electrode Luxio
    Gulaghar 4012-3882-1934 Nadia Ghar Fairy Dedenne Mawile Floette
    HandsomeGoblin 0920-0919-2787
    HappyGravity 2208-5735-4223 Eileen -_- Poison Swalot Kakuna Croagunk
    Harnel 5472-7302-7698 Halae Halae Water Krabby Gyarados Frogadier
    Hogwarts9876 3024-5607-5601 Adam Adam
    HunterNoventa 0189-8423-5030 Emi Emi Electric
    InfernallyClay 1891-1230-7244 Alice Winny Psychic Sigilyph Grumpig Duosion
    JustPlayItLoud 4785-6164-8724 Toaster Brett Fire Magmar Charmeleon Ninetales
    Keris(Full) 2423-2600-9179 Tarn Tarn Water Bibarel Floatzel Frogadier
    Kurgan 1478-3987-4689 Kurhanik Kurgan Steel Magneton Forretress Klefki
    Kuroten 2809-8617-8608 Raijin/Akemi Water Panpour Floatzel Frogadier
    Kuulvheysoon 5257-9453-0107 Ariik
    LawlessIII 5129-1568-6363 Gorgeous Andrew Flying Farfetch'd Woobat Fletchinder
    LordFullbladder 5343-8973-8240 SheG Normal Aipom Minccino Ditto
    Mattarias,King(requestonly) 5343-8171-8375 Mattarias Mattarias Water Bibarel Floatzel Frogadier
    MeatShield#236 1950-7553-3565 Thomas Meatshield Bug Combee Beautifly Pinsir
    MercenaryPen 4227-2044-9144 MercenPen Flying Pidgey Tranquill Hawlucha
    Mtg_player_zach 1590-5500-0148 Zach Zach Electric Pikachu Dedenne Luxio
    NeoPhoenix0 2852-8259-2899 Victoria NeoPhoenix Water Octillery Floatzel Azumarill
    noparlpf 0705-3326-2027 Jude Jude Flying Spearow Woobat Rufflet
    OracleofWuffing 2234-7142-0224 T-Dawg Dragon Dragonair Gabite Sligoo
    Othesmo 0533-5350-5769 Gaius Electric Emolga Electabuzz Manectric
    Partof1 4313-0044-7312 Magnus Tom Bug Ledyba Beautifly Vivillon
    Peelee 5370-1262-5440 Peelee Peelee Flying Pidgey Tranquill Rufflet
    Peelee'sWife 4339-2708-2563 Sephrenea Sephrenea Ice Delibird Sneasel Lapras
    Perkinz 1993-7396-5551 Armads Fighting Pancham Mienfoo Riolu
    PingPongAlong 4914-4022-6171 Pierre Jake Psychic Wobbuffet Gothorita Abra
    ProphetRipley 3437-3875-9174 Artemis Carebear Water Bibarel Gyarados
    Psychotic 2836-0282-0242 Jimmy Jimmy Steel Forretress Mawile Klefki
    Quietus 3067-5701-8746
    Qwertystop 1805-2284-9978 Qwertystop Qwerty Dark Mightyena Crawdaunt Absol
    Rezkeshdadesh 0104-0343-1530 Gaston/Sylthia Rezzy Psychic Espurr Grumpig Girafarig
    RisingPhoenix 2492-5555-9928 Mortimer Dimi Psychic Sigilyph Abra Xatu
    RyuhoTsugu 3823-9797-6825 Periphas εχθρός Fire Growlithe Charmeleon Fletchinder
    SaintRidley 1650-2179-8114 AElfgif/DońaXimena ColbertJr Ice Beartic Snover
    Sajiri 0748-2783-1667 Sadi Sajiri Psychic Abra Espurr Xatu
    Sasaisen 2380-3648-0994 Trevor Sasaisen Grass Pansage Petilil Maractus
    ScowlingDragon 2148-8339-5834 Ground Sandshrew Marowak Diggersby
    Seerow 4184-2537-0787 Jack Psychic Grumpig Gothorita Sigilyph
    Shinken 4442-0172-6654 Shinken Flying Pidgey Hoothoot Fletchinder
    ShinyRocks 2294-4502-1203 Joelio Ice Snover Beartic Cloyster
    SKarious 2449-5207-9736 Shai Poison Kakuna Ariados Drapion
    spectralphoenix 1864-9713-0312 Alex Normal Teddiursa Minccino Smeargle
    Svata 5215-0731-7054
    Talvereaux 2406-5576-5996 Poison Seviper Ariados Toxicroak
    TamerBill 4828-4410-2451 Bex Bill Poison Venomoth Gloom
    Terazul 3411-1167-8365 Pen Pen Water Frogadier Wartortle Bibarel
    TheSuccubus 4613-7683-1174 Doc
    TheGeckoKing 4098-2424-2486 Martin Martin Psychic Grumpig Espurr
    ThelazyMage 2938-7262-8516 Eric Eric Dark Nuzleaf Sandile Absol
    ThePhantom 2680-8881-4704 GR Ghost Shuppet Pumpkaboo Drifblim
    Thormag 0619-3578-2378 Thormag Grass Oddish Petilil Quilladin
    Togath 1650-2364-0504 Merry Ken Flying Pidgey Tranquill
    Tono 1478-3812-1377 Tono Bug Butterfree Heracross Masquerain
    truenekomancer 0619-4369-0275 TSK Bug Butterfree Illumise
    Tylorious 3668-7804-7430 Tylor Tylor Fire Charmeleon Magmar Braixen
    urbanwolf 4425-1730-5201 King Fighting Pancham Mankey Tyrogue
    userpay 2036-6900-9795 userpay Fairy Togepi Spritzee
    Winterfate 1246-9091-8502 Winterfate Ice Snorunt Bergmite Cloyster
    WJMill 3625-8308-8437 Whitney Whitney Fighting Machoke Throh Breloom
    Wookieetank 5386-8601-6140
    YukiAkuma 1633-4400-9136 Yuki Will Ghost Shuppet Phantump
    ZamielVanWeber 3067-5161-6274 Zamiel Electric Electabuzz Pachirisu Galvantula
    ZeltArruin(Requestonly) 3840-5756-8123 ZeltArruin Rock Corsola Dwebble Rhydon
    Olinser 1564-3913-5983 Rock Nosepass Pupitar Barbaracle
    GreenSerpent 0662-3910-6053 Jaegar
    Domino Quartz 3024-8274-5412 Dexter Ignispirus
    Woodzyowl 0834-2121-7393 Woodzy
    MaryRing 5215-0045-7397


    Helpful Links/Hints For Adventuring Ten Year Olds

    Bulbapedia
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    Metalkid's IV Calculator
    Serebii
    Useful NPCs in XY (on Serebii)
    Pokémon Online (for battles over the internets when you don't want to bother training things by hand)

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    So, you're tired of navigating a Pokemon thread where everyone uses fancy words and stuff? Well no worries! Here's a guide on... BREEDING FOR DUMMIES!

    One of the first things to remember in breeding is that there are Natures that help and ones that hinder. For instance, a Special Attacker such as Mewtwo would be hindered by an Adamant nature, but helped in his stat growth by a Modest nature. To improve your chances for getting a particular Nature in a child Pokémon, use at least one parent with the Nature you want, and give it the Everstone. In Gen IV, the Everstone doesn't guarantee the inherited Nature, though it does in Gen V and VI.

    Brilliant Spreadsheet for Growth.

    Some IVs (don't know what an IV is? Check the next spoiler box!) are randomly inherited from the parents. You can lock in a maximum of one IV by giving a parent the corresponding Power training item (Power Bracer for Attack, Power Lens for Special Attack, and so forth), or (starting with XY) randomly inherit 5 (instead of the normal 3) by holding the Destiny Knot. Use Flat Battles to determine the IVs of a hatched Pokémon, or if you only care about the highest IV and the sum of all of its IVs, you can take it to a guy who's in the lobby of either the Battle Tower or the Battle Subway in the DS games, depending on the generation, and in the Kiloude City Pokémon Center in XY. You're looking for them to judge it Relatively Superior overall and Can't Be Better in its best stat. The XY judge will also tell you about any really bad IVs the Pokémon has.

    The third main thing with breeding is Egg Moves. Egg moves are moves the parent has, and passes down to a child. For instance, in my breeding of Chimchar, the egg moves are Grass Knot and Swords Dance, which are passed down to the child who gets said moves from the start. In order to pass on most Egg Moves, the father must know the move (Genderless Pokémon never learn Egg Moves). These include all of the moves that are listed as the child Pokémon's Egg Moves in a move list chart, as well as any compatible TMs or HMs. You can also pass on moves that the child would learn by level-up that aren't in those two lists--for these, both parents must know the move. In XY, some moves can be inherited from the mother...

    The fourth and final thing to keep in mind are Hidden Abilities. Starting in Generation V, most Pokémon were assigned an additional ability that they could only get if you caught them under certain circumstances (the special Darmanitan in Desert Resort, or Pokémon found in hidden grottoes, the Dream World, or some in Friend Safaris). Some Hidden Abilities are highly sought-after, like Dragonite's Multiscale. If the mother has the Hidden Ability, the children will inherit it. The father can occasionally pass down the Hidden Ability if bred with a Ditto.


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    Spoiler: Or, a Primer On How Stats Work
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    Don't feel the need to bother with this stuff unless you're playing against humans or at one of those "Battle Whatever" places. You shouldn't need it for most of the game, and it can be kind of a pain.

    First, the equations. These are how the game calculates the Pokémon's final stats.
    HP = (IV + 2*Base + EV/4) * Level/100 + 10
    Others = ((IV + 2*Base + EV/4) * Level/100 + 5) * Nature
    So, at level 100, 1 IV or 4 EV raises a Pokémon's stat by 1 while a 1 point difference in Base stat is worth 2.

    Nature
    Most natures raise one stat and lower another, while some don't change any stats. A raised stat has a multiplier of 1.1 (or +10%), a lowered stat has a multiplier of 0.9 (or -10%), and a neutral stat has a multiplier of 1.0.

    Base Stats (Base)
    With a new generation just out, there's a lot of talk about finding out about a Pokémon's base stats. What are these, some of you ask? Well, they're modifiers to stats that a Pokémon gains just by being that kind of Pokémon. A (normal) Tyranitar has a base Attack of 135, a Mewtwo has 154 base Special Attack, and so on. When a Pokémon's stats change as it Mega Evolves or changes Form, it does so by changing the set of base stats it looks at. Otherwise, these base stats can't be changed (hence the "base"). At level 100, a Pokémon gets twice its Base stat to its final stats.

    Individual Values (IV)
    In addition to base stats, every Pokémon gets a bonus of 0-31 points applied to each stat. So a level 100 Tyranitar could have an attack stat of 273, or it could have a attack of 304. That bonus is the IV.
    A Pokémon has its IVs generated the moment you meet it, or accept its egg, and there's no way to change them. You're stuck with what you've got. However, you can influence them a little, if you're willing to breed. Bred Pokémon don't randomly generate all their IVs, they inherit up to 3 from their parents. In XY, giving a parent the Destiny Knot causes them to inherit five random IVs instead. There's a few other ways of influencing IVs in bred Pokémon, which are explained in the breeding section.
    In addition, in XY, some Pokémon are guaranteed to have some "perfect" (31) IVs. Pokémon found in the Friend Safari will have two random perfect IVs, while Pokémon that can't breed will have 3.

    Effort Values (EV)
    Every time you win a fight, your Pokémon get experience, but that's not all they get. Every Pokémon also gives out effort points. For every 4 effort points in a particular stat, your Pokémon gains 1 point in it. So if that Tyranitar from earlier with 304 attack had 4 attack EVs, his actual attack would be 305. If he had 252 attack EVs, it'd be 367. Sounds handy, but there are limits. You can't have more than 255 points in a single stat, and you can't have more than 510 EVs in total.

    You'll see a lot of Pokémon with 252 attack/special attack EVs, 252 speed, and 4 HP, but there are a lot of ways to configure them. Defensive Pokémon will obviously focus on different things, Pokémon which use both physical and special attacks will need to split EVs between them or possibly sacrifice speed, and so on.

    It's a tremendous pain to work out what EVs your Pokémon has (if you weren't keeping track, anyway), so you'll likely want to start with a Pokémon that you freshly hatched and work from there, though you don't have to. There are 6 berries that reduce EVs in a single stat each, so you can use those to reset your Pokémon and start from scratch. After that, just keep a careful record of what you fight, and only take down Pokémon that you know give you the EVs you want.

    EV training takes a while, but there are a few ways you can speed it up. The first is an astonishingly rare status condition called Pokérus. Any Pokémon with Pokérus gets double EVs from fights, and will spread the Pokérus to any Pokémon in your party for the first 72 hours after it catches it. After those 72 hours it stops being contagious, but still gets double EVs. Pokérus has something like 1/20000 chance to appear on wild Pokemon, but with the magic of the internet I'm sure you can obtain it.

    The second way to speed up EV training is through Power Items. If a Pokémon is holding the right item, they get bonus EVs from every fight. For example, a Pokémon holding a Power Lens will get 4 special attack EVs. A Pokémon holding a Power Anklet will get 4 speed EVs. A Pokémon holding a Macho Brace will just get double the EVs of whatever they're fighting. These bonuses are doubled if you have Pokérus.

    The third way to speed up EVs is through vitamins. Each vitamin given to a Pokémon gives them +10 EVs in a certain stat, up to a limit of 100. 1 protein gives 10 attack EVs, 10 give 100. These unfortunately aren't doubled by Pokérus or items, so you'll have to pay for the full amount. Luckily money is easy to come by in these games.

    Just as an example, I'll show how I EV'd my Gengar.
    First, I gave him 10 calcium, and 10 carbos, so 100 special attack and 100 speed already.
    After that, I gave him Pokérus and a lucky egg, got him to meet a Floatzel (2 speed EVs, doubled to 4 because of Pokérus), and then sent out my Weezing to explode on it so Gengar could get all the experience, for a higher level and 100 special attack, 104 speed.
    After that, I gave him a Power Lens, flew over to the Old Chateau, and killed 15 Gastly (1 special attack from Gastly, 4 from the lens, doubled to 10 from Pokérus) for 150 special attack EVs, bringing my total to 250 special attack, 104 speed.
    After that I equipped a power anklet and killed one more Gastly (1 special attack from Gastly, 4 speed from the anklet, doubled to 2 and 8 from Pokérus), meaning Gengar had 252 attack, and 112 speed.
    Leaving the anklet equipped, I flew to Route 201, and killed 14 Starly (1 speed from Starly, 4 from the anklet, meaning 10 speed per starly thanks to Pokérus), for a total of 252 attack, 252 speed.
    All that was left after that was to kill a Bidoof with a Power Weight (1 HP from Bidoof, 4 from the Weight, 10 thanks to Pokerus, although I only gained 6 points because I hit the EV cap), leaving my Gengar with 252 special attack EVs, 252 Speed, and 4 HP, just how I wanted him.
    Roughly an hour's work, and one Pokemon down.

    In XY, there's an additional method of EV training, which doesn't involve beating up wild Pokémon, but you instead play minigames (called Super Training) with the Pokémon. This lets you choose which stat you'll train, and awards you 4 EVs per difficulty level (so +4 for level 1, +12 for level 3). In addition, you may gain special training bags that can make further Super Training easier, reset your EVs entirely, or other effects. The training system also displays your earned EVs graphically (but not numerically), making it somewhat easier to keep track of a Pokémon's EVs.

    tl;dr: The simplified version of EVs/IVs - EVs are gained by fighting other Pokémon. They vary by the Pokémon defeated. They increase your stats for every 4 gained. IVs are inherent to a Pokémon. They increase stats for every point possessed, and range from 0 to 31. EVs have to be manually tracked or else removed entirely with certain berries. IVs can be checked by knowing the EVs of a Pokémon and then plugging its stats into an IV calculator. The higher the Pokémon's level, the more accurate; level 100 wifi battles provide maximum accuracy.

    Now, you might ask, "Mando Knight, how do you get those accented e's?" On a PC, change your keyboard layout to US-International, and press 'e. For some versions of Windows, if you don't want the US-International keyboard on all the time, you can also have it switch between different registered keyboards with a press of Ctrl+Shift. You can also copy-paste them from someone else's posts. Or the thread title.
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    Dem check marks. Mii name is Woodzy and FC is 0834-2121-7393.
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    Personally, I'm going to do the Pikachu Cup with the all-elec team left-over from the old Giant League. Except with some moveset tweaks.
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    ...though Talla does her best to sound objective and impartial, it doesn't cover stuff like "ask a 9-year-old to tank for the party."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Qwertystop View Post
    Personally, I'm going to do the Pikachu Cup with the all-elec team left-over from the old Giant League. Except with some moveset tweaks.
    The meta is way different when you're also facing mono-Electric though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noparlpf View Post
    The meta is way different when you're also facing mono-Electric though.
    The key point here is that I already had the team.
    Quote Originally Posted by jamieth View Post
    ...though Talla does her best to sound objective and impartial, it doesn't cover stuff like "ask a 9-year-old to tank for the party."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Qwertystop View Post
    The key point here is that I already had the team.
    A fair point.
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    The stars predict tomorrow you'll wake up, do a bunch of stuff, and then go back to sleep.~ That's your horoscope for today.

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    Ooh, new thread! Perfect time to post this.

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    Blargh. Why the ikjulhtgtrg.lojgrfnjfhei does the Spiritomb in ORAS know Memento? And I think it might be a unique, too, at least until you catch and breed it - or at least, the trigger to make it come back is not trivial.
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    ...though Talla does her best to sound objective and impartial, it doesn't cover stuff like "ask a 9-year-old to tank for the party."
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    You could try getting a Lampent/Chandelure with Imprison and Memento, that should lock out the move.

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    Post for the check, and my list of breeding leftovers.

    Spoiler: The List
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    All have at least 4 good IVs, are completely free for you to take, and are first-come/first-serve (though I can breed more upon request).

    Can breed if asked: Dwebble, Heracross, Joltik, Kangaskhan, Snivy.

    Species Quantity Nature Ability Egg (or High-Level) Moves Ball
    Amaura 1 Modest Refrigerate Haze, Barrier, Mirror Coat, Discharge
    Anorith 1 Adamant Battle Armor Cross Poison, Knock Off, Aqua Jet, Rapid Spin
    Bagon 35 Lonely Rock Head Dragon Pulse, Dragon Dance, Dragon Rush, Hydro Pump Great
    Beldum 15 Adamant Clear Body
    Buneary 3 Jolly Limber Teeter Dance, Switcheroo, Fake Out, Encore Dream
    Chimchar 6 Jolly Iron Fist Fire Punch, Thunder Punch, Fake Out
    Clamperl 46 Modest Shell Armor (Shell Smash) Dive
    Croagunk 5 Jolly Dry Skin Fake Out, Drain Punch, Quick Guard, Counter Great
    Cubchoo 9 Jolly Snow Cloak Focus Punch, Night Slash, Yawn, Play Rough Dive
    Cubone 3 Brave* Lightningrod Detect, Belly Drum, Iron Head, Perish Song Heal
    12 Brave* Rock Head Detect, Belly Drum, Iron Head, Perish Song Heal
    Darumaka 5 Jolly Hustle Encore, Focus Punch, Yawn
    Deino 60 Hasty Hustle Earth Power Net
    Drifloon 9 Modest Unburden Weather Ball, Tailwind, Defog, Destiny Bond Quick
    Drilbur 4 Adamant Sand Rush Rapid Spin Repeat
    5 Adamant Mold Breaker Rapid Spin Repeat
    Duskull 14 Impish Levitate Destiny Bond, Pain Split, Skill Swap Luxury
    Eevee 4 Bold Adaptability or Run Away Curse, Wish, Yawn, Stored Power Dive
    Ferroseed 30 Careful Iron Barbs Leech Seed, Gravity, Stealth Rock, Spikes Nest
    Fletchling 18 Adamant Gale Wings Quick Guard, Tailwind Repeat
    5 Jolly Gale Wings Quick Guard, Tailwind Repeat
    10 Careful Gale Wings Repeat
    Frillish 2 Modest Water Absorb Pain Split, Confuse Ray Dive
    14 Calm Water Absorb Pain Split, Confuse Ray Dive
    14 Calm Cursed Body Pain Split, Confuse Ray Dive
    Froakie 54 Naive Protean Bestow, Toxic Spikes, Mud Sport, Water Sport Net
    Gastly 17 Timid Levitate Clear Smog, Haze, Perish Song, Disable Love
    Glisgar 3 Careful Immunity Baton Pass, Counter, Agility, Night Slash
    Golett 10 Adamant Iron Fist
    Hawlucha 3 Adamant Limber Quick Guard, Me First Premier
    12 Adamant Unburden Quick Guard, Me First Premier
    Honedge 10 Quiet No Guard Luxury
    Larvitar 5 Jolly Guts Stealth Rock, Pursuit, Dragon Dance, Iron Head Dusk
    Litwick 2 Timid Flash Fire Haze, Clear Smog Net
    5 Timid Infiltrator Haze, Clear Smog Net
    Marill 6 Adamant Huge Power Aqua Jet, Perish Song, Belly Drum, Body Slam Dive
    Mawile 8 Adamant Prankster Sucker Punch, Metal Burst, Fire Fang, Misty Terrain Ultra
    Mienfoo 7 Jolly Regenerator Knock Off, Baton Pass, Me First Heal
    Misdreavus 12 Timid Levitate Curse, Skill Swap, Destiny Bond, Nasty Plot Moon
    Pawniard 9 Jolly Defiant Pursuit, Sucker Punch, Stealth Rock, Psycho Cut Timer
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    Ooh, new thread! Perfect time to post this.
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    Ooh, new thread! Perfect time to post this.
    Lots of them are really interesting. The Pidgeot drawing had a cool art style. One gripe though -- the Charizard just looks like a generic Western dragon. 5/10.

    Also Dorkly pisses me off, but that's another story for another time.
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    Lots of them are really interesting. The Pidgeot drawing had a cool art style. One gripe though -- the Charizard just looks like a generic Western dragon. 5/10.

    Also Dorkly pisses me off, but that's another story for another time.
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    In case anyone missed it, you can get a free Shiny Rayquaza through Mystery Gift in ORAS right now.

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    In case anyone missed it, you can get a free Shiny Rayquaza through Mystery Gift in ORAS right now.
    What. Whoa. Okay, sweet.

    Edit: I can confirm that nature and IVs aren't fixed, so have fun soft-resetting.
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    What. Whoa. Okay, sweet.

    Edit: I can confirm that nature and IVs aren't fixed, so have fun soft-resetting.
    Something about Rayquaza's lips seem off to me. Like it smeared strawberry jelly all over its mouth or was playing with its mother's lipstick.

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    Something about Rayquaza's lips seem off to me. Like it smeared strawberry jelly all over its mouth or was playing with its mother's lipstick.
    Well it doesn't really seem to have opposable thumbs so it's probably not very easy to get made up in the morning.
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    Edit: I can confirm that nature and IVs aren't fixed, so have fun soft-resetting.
    ...Dammit, I thought they would be. Mine doesn't have perfect Attack or Sp. Attack.
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    Yeah, I just stopped at hasty nature with max ATK/DEF/SPA and 10-11 HP, 23-24 SPD, and 8 SPE. Could be better, but not too much. And it's Rayquaza. He's a bit broken.
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    Yeah, given that it's already broken it's probably fine to just go for a good nature and not worry about the IVs too much, especially with three 31s guaranteed.
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    Yeah, I just stopped at hasty nature with max ATK/DEF/SPA and 10-11 HP, 23-24 SPD, and 8 SPE. Could be better, but not too much. And it's Rayquaza. He's a bit broken.
    Who'da thunk letting it Megevolve without a Megastone would be broken. The power creep's getting a bit much.

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    Who'da thunk letting it Megevolve without a Megastone would be broken. The power creep's getting a bit much.
    Nah bro. Clearly Mega Rayquaza is no better than Mega Mewtwo, and Mewtwo's fist gen.
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    In case anyone missed it, you can get a free Shiny Rayquaza through Mystery Gift in ORAS right now.
    Woot! Thanks for the notification. When I eventually get to OR I will have a level 50 Diancie and now a level 70 Rayquaza to use....(not that I"d try, they'd never listen to even half my commands). But, WOOT! Second shiny pokemon alongside Red Gryados from oh so long ago :)

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    Woot! Thanks for the notification. When I eventually get to OR I will have a level 50 Diancie and now a level 70 Rayquaza to use....(not that I"d try, they'd never listen to even half my commands). But, WOOT! Second shiny pokemon alongside Red Gryados from oh so long ago :)
    I think the event only runs until like September 20-something though. So if you can, make sure to download it now even if you won't play until later.
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    I think the event only runs until like September 20-something though. So if you can, make sure to download it now even if you won't play until later.
    Already did :) I managed to get that Diancie on it's last day after talking the wifey into letting me snag OR. Both are sitting in their pokeballs that my trainer has on him atm ^^ I guess if nothing else, if I lose all my other 'mon I can just use one of them and even though it won't listen to me, I don't see how anything could kill it either :)

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    I'm not sure why I'm soft resetting this Rayquaza, I doubt I'm going to use it in any battles (especially since you can't even use it in the battle resort), but I ended up keeping this spread. Pretty nice:

    Naughty nature (+atk, -sdef) 31/18/30/29/31/31... hidden power ICE. I'm sensing a mixed Rayqueezy here. Perhaps HPI/Dragon Ascent/Earthquake/Dragon Dance?
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    ...Why would you want HP:Ice on a Pokémon that already has Ice Beam in its movepool?

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    ...Why would you want HP:Ice on a Pokémon that already has Ice Beam in its movepool?
    Because I don't use Rayquaza, like, ever, and didn't know it could learn Ice Beam .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rezkeshdadesh View Post
    In case anyone missed it, you can get a free Shiny Rayquaza through Mystery Gift in ORAS right now.
    Dammit!

    Only for folk in the US apparently (at least over wifi); on checking Serebii, it's apparently a serial code from some sort of Smyth's thing in the UK (and possibly EB in Europe?)

    Well, sadly, while there is a Smyth's in Derby, it's right across the other side of town, so not really worth making a special trip to Smyth's just for that.

    Ho hum. *shrug*

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