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    Edge of Tomorrow (or Live Die Repeat or whatever the heck they're calling it now) is a very good movie that suffered from terrible marketing. Be advised that it's quite different from Sakurazaka's novel and the manga adaptation. If the manga's storyline differs from the light novel's, I don't remember it.

    Apparently there's also an American graphic novel adaptation, which I haven't read.

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    I'm disappointed in watching the maid vs dragons fight. The maid is a caster, and the dragons have magic immunity. I was seriously expecting her to bust out some conjurations or assay spell resistance, not just cast 7th level spells which somehow negate magic immunity. The lack of tactics shown there reflects negatively on the show. Just because you have more power to brute force it, doesn't mean you can't think smart. =|
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    Quote Originally Posted by HMS Invincible View Post
    The lack of tactics shown there reflects negatively on the show. Just because you have more power to brute force it, doesn't mean you can't think smart. =|
    Her orders were "show them the power of Nazerick", not "show them that Nazerick can only win through cheap tricks".

    Nabe already showed she was capable of altering her tactics earlier, with things like anti-negative-energy buffs and tying her sword into its sheath to use it as a bludgeoning weapon. (Given how closely things follow D&D mechanics, the Skeletal Dragon presumably had DR/bludgeoning)

    She didn't "somehow negate magic immunity" - the dragon just had a globe of invulnerability type thing rather than actual immunity, and its creator had no way of telling the difference due to the lack of high-level spellcasters in his world. Nabe meanwhile was familiar with that monster from Yggdrasil, or had at least seen similar "magic-immune" monsters and could guess its limits.
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    Finished Plastic Memories, it was decent. Do I regret watching it? Nah. Solid show, just doesn't use a lot of its potential and puts way too much weight on stock character types without fleshing them out. It's no Key feelsfest, that's for sure. (And for all its faults, Angel Beats! did a much better job talking about mortality and connecting with me.)

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    So has anyone watched Letter Bee? Worth watching?

    As a side note it anyone watching God Eater? I honestly couldn't tell you why but I'm finding it extremely funny

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    I've watched the first three episodes of God Eater, mainly because I was on holiday and needed something to watch. It was...okay, I guess? It seems incredibly unoriginal. Mad scientists accidentally create monsters to destroy us all, yadda yadda only teenagers with swords can save us, [insert generic conspiracy plot twist here]......

    Don't think I'm going to continue with it, for pretty much the same reasons Knights of Sidonia lost me halfway through its first season: I've seen this plot before a half dozen times. It needs to bring something new.

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    Anyway, I feel the need to say this, but after realizing it's constant and not a fluke...

    I'm a bit embarassed, but from all the anime I've been watching this and past season (not entirely anime fromthis or past season if you get what I mean), the only one who makes me really want to see the next episode right now after seeing the credit of the current episode I'm watching is Shokugeki no Soma.

    Part of it is obviously the momentum. I'm sure that if I say watch Rokka no Yuusha until halfway I'll be engrossed in its mysteries. But Soma is just a really good "serious business sport" series, if you can ignore the questionable early "fanservices" that it relatively moves on from later.

    My criteria for that is that most of the friendly and rival characters are likeable or at least you want to see them more later, and eventhough you're kinda sure that the MC will survive to the end (though it's not guaranteed, there's tons of sport series with that twist), you can't be sure who will accompany the MC to later tournaments, because most of them also have good skills, and most of them also have interesting relationships or reasons to be there. Like for example, you can't say "X will be in the semi final from the bunch because he has the most rivalry with the MC," all of them has some sort of similar-level rivalry with the MC and each others.

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    Okay, slightly more serious, I don't follow that many shows running, but yeah, Shokugeki is what I look forward to most (GATE might have been able to keep up but it's kind of lost my interest recently) Apart from getting my mouth to water it's funny and as you say, while we can be rather sure Soma will make it, it's not as easy to guess who of the huge cast will get one of the few seats right now. It almost makes me want to go read the manga. (But then I'd spoil myself on the anime)
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    I wonder how many people dropped Rokka no Yuusha near the start since in my opinion it only got good when they started playing mafia. Anyway I think it's my favourite show this season, well Durarara is good too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ibrinar View Post
    I wonder how many people dropped Rokka no Yuusha near the start since in my opinion it only got good when they started playing mafia. Anyway I think it's my favourite show this season, well Durarara is good too.
    I gave up after the first episode. It started well with the generally Meso-American design (liberally mixed with more European stuff, sadly) but immediately lost me with the characters it introduced.
    I've noticed that the shows people talk about here are rarely the ones I bother watching.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BWR View Post
    I gave up after the first episode. It started well with the generally Meso-American design (liberally mixed with more European stuff, sadly) but immediately lost me with the characters it introduced.
    I've noticed that the shows people talk about here are rarely the ones I bother watching.
    I was skeptical at that point too (the exposition in the first episode for instance "let me tell things we both know"), but I do like it now
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    once they start suspecting each other and try to decide who the traitor is so that they can kill them it gets much more entertaining. And makes me want to play mafia again.


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    I mean how often do you see a straight up confession of love that early in an action anime?
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    But there's only a couple of episodes left. Were you expecting it at the end?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ibrinar View Post
    Has anyone read/watched Naruto? since it's finished now I wanted to give it a try again so I was wondering, manga or anime?
    Personally I'm more of an anime person, give me a few days for me to not be at a convention any more and I can post a full list of which episodes to skip (i.e.- which ones are bad filler).

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    I'm hoping that now the manga's finished they'll just go straight for the finish with a minimum of filler, but I'm kinda doubting that will happen. Cash cows and all that.
    I wish, but right now it's looking like they're going to spend some unspecified number of episodes showing everyone's Infinite Tsukuyomi dreams.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BWR View Post
    I gave up after the first episode. It started well with the generally Meso-American design (liberally mixed with more European stuff, sadly) but immediately lost me with the characters it introduced.
    There's are Andean South American ruins in the next few episodes. In a supposedly only recently attacked town, which gives a slightly weird effect especially after how much effort they put into making the Meso-American stuff look properly painted.

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    I've noticed that the shows people talk about here are rarely the ones I bother watching.
    That's often the case with me. Sometimes I watch them later and like them (Madoka Magica), usually I have no clue what's supposed to be good about them.

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    As a side note it anyone watching God Eater? I honestly couldn't tell you why but I'm finding it extremely funny
    Watched episode one. Had no interest due to having seen it all before.

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    It needs to bring something new.
    All it really needed was actually engaging characters instead of just caring about trying to be cool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Closet_Skeleton View Post

    All it really needed was actually engaging characters instead of just caring about trying to be cool.
    I actually thought the fighter characters were the best thing about it. Yeah, slightly boiler-plate, but likable enough.

    They just needed a plot to actually do stuff with.

    Meanwhile, Charlotte is showing how to properly take over-used plot devices and make them awesome anyway.

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    I should have seen the time travel to save Yuu's little sister coming as soon as time travel was a possibility. Using time travel to cheat death normally annoys me, but this one was great for several reasons:

    1) Obviously set up well in advance - they've been hinting at the time travel elements for ages, and hinting at Yuu's ability to steal abilities as well. So, no cop out feeling.

    2) Sensible use of time travel - go back to the beginning of the day rather than right before the incident, grab the ability well in advance of it being used, actually TELL people you trust what you're doing...

    3) Nao instantly believing him. So many times people who should know better refuse to believe a time traveler. Nao knows supernatural powers are a thing, she knows Yuu has no reason to lie to her and is acting weird, so when he runs it past her she instantly accepts. Very refreshing.

    4) And finally, the massive hilarity that was the school infiltration.


    The one thing that kinda throws me here is that we're back before the Zhiend concert. That means that Yuu can't have the conversation with the lead singer...at least, not the same way it played out previously. Not only will his reactions be off from having lived the day before, but she was incredibly perceptive and he's no longer lost his sister.

    I hope we go and see that conversation again now and they get her to go visit Nao's brother for this timeline.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BWR View Post
    I've noticed that the shows people talk about here are rarely the ones I bother watching.
    yeah, i typically go through my backlog while seasonal anime airs and then finish just-aired anime in a couple of sittings once the cour ends, so i get the same impression.

    anyways, does anyone have any thoughts on the upcoming season? i've got owarimonogatari and yuru yuri san hai as obligatory sequel watches, but i'm reasonably interested in the new gundam series. i'm not really into mecha and the character designs i've seen don't immediately appeal to me, but despite that i think that iron blooded orphans' choice of director is really interesting and so i'll give it a shot. i still haven't seen about half of nagai tatsuyuki's directorial pursuits, but anohana, ano natsu de matteru, and toradora were all quite enjoyable.

    nothing about rakudai kishi no cavalry's synopsis appeals to me but i'm going to watch it based on the recommendation of an LN reader.

    people in general seem very excited about one punch man but it really doesn't look like my cup of tea. i'm interested in giving utawarerumono: itsuwari no kamen a chance, though, and i think i'll take the opportunity to watch noragami while its sequel airs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ex cathedra View Post
    anyways, does anyone have any thoughts on the upcoming season?
    Hmmm, let's see... I'll definitely give One-Punch Man a shot, and probably Iron-Blooded Orphans too, although I only got about a quarter of the way in to G-Reco so the odds of it keeping my interest aren't high. The Girls und Panzer and Arpeggio movies are of interest, though as movies I don't know when I'd get around to watching them. Same for the OVAs/specials for Sound! Euphonium and Unlimited Blade Works. Oh, and I'll definitely check out Attack on Titan Junior High too. Aside from that, nothing really jumps out at me, so I'll see what more clued-in observers of the industry suggest might be interesting based on things like staff or adaptation source. I've kept up with a fair bit for the last couple of seasons and have a sizeable backlog, so I'd probably prefer for there to be less to watch this season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ex cathedra View Post
    anyways, does anyone have any thoughts on the upcoming season?
    Likewise interested in Iron Blood Orphans, as I'm a bit of a sucker for giant robot shows. Comet Lucifer looks like it's going to be pretty, if nothing else. Kowabon sounds like it could be interestingly weird, since it's a rotoscoped horror show. I'm probably going to be watching Lupin III because, well, it's Lupin III. I might check out One-Punch Man just because it's Madhouse, and I trust them damn near implicitly. The people I've spoken to that have seen the leak of the first episode also said it was pretty damn good, so that's another thing in it's favor. The premise to Sakurako-san also sounds intriguing, so I'll probably give that one a chance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HMS Invincible View Post
    But there's only a couple of episodes left. Were you expecting it at the end?
    Of the anime, it's only the first arc. I doubt we will see them in anime form but there are 5 more LNs.
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    So I just watched Kara no Kyoukai 1-7 over the weekend and there's one thing I'm really confused about:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sith_Happens View Post
    So I just watched Kara no Kyoukai 1-7 over the weekend and there's one thing I'm really confused about:

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    It's been a time, but IIRC it's stated or implied to be SHIKI, her other self.

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    Edge of Tomorrow (or Live Die Repeat or whatever the heck they're calling it now) is a very good movie that suffered from terrible marketing. Be advised that it's quite different from Sakurazaka's novel and the manga adaptation. If the manga's storyline differs from the light novel's, I don't remember it.

    Apparently there's also an American graphic novel adaptation, which I haven't read.
    So I noticed the graphic novel adaptation today in a bookstore. Warning sign number one: it was super-thin (100 pages in total). I decided to give it a quick look anyhow. It's abysmal. Took me only a handful of pages to see that it was basically just doing a Cliffs Notes of the story, with none of the caring detail of the manga. If it was my first exposure to the story, I'd be totally confused. I had to rely on my knowledge of the manga to decipher what was going on in the graphic novel. (Also, the comic has no sense of dramatic framing or using art for storytelling; it doesn't even approach the dynamicness of the mangaka.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sith_Happens View Post
    So I just watched Kara no Kyoukai 1-7 over the weekend and there's one thing I'm really confused about:

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    Been a while, but I'm reasonably certain it was implied very strongly, if not outright stated, to be Lio.
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    It's been a time, but IIRC it's stated or implied to be SHIKI, her other self.
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    That's what I meant, and also what I thought at first... But then in the seventh movie (SiM Part 2) everyone starts acting like Mikiya's "She's never killed anyone, that's what I choose to believe" isn't just him doublethinking, including Shiki herself.

    ...Now that I think about it some more, though, it could just be that neither of them are counting SHIKI's murders as being Shiki's. Which is more or less fair.

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    Been a while, but I'm reasonably certain it was implied very strongly, if not outright stated, to be Lio.
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    It was sort of implied once or twice, the main problem being that none of the victims in Part 1 showed any signs of having been eaten or otherwise bitten. Which, incidentally, I spent most of Part 2 internally screaming at everyone for not noticing or caring about. I don't claim to be an expert on serial killers, but I'm pretty darn sure that most don't adopt something like cannibalism halfway through their careers.
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    I thought the whole point was that shiki is a serial murderer, who gets reformed by the love interest. Whether or not you buy the two personalities in one body mumbo jumbo is separate from that. The lio framing her is another separate thing altogether.

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    You thought it was Shiki, but it was me! Lio!
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    That's... actually kind of disappointing.

    On a different note, Tomoe Enjou looks far too much like Shirou Emiya for me to not believe they're the same person.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sith_Happens View Post
    On a different note, Tomoe Enjou looks far too much like Shirou Emiya for me to not believe they're the same person.
    Well, when you consider how screwy the Nasuverse is, and how similar Araya looks to Kirei, I could almost see this as being true.
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    Having the killer's identity revealed again makes me annoyed. That twist is really stupid. What's wrong with Shiki being a killer? It works, and fits the story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HMS Invincible View Post
    Having the killer's identity revealed again makes me annoyed. That twist is really stupid. What's wrong with Shiki being a killer? It works, and fits the story.
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    If I'm recalling correctly, Ryougi is a killer. She beats Souren Araya during Paradox Spiral pretty damn badly, and I seem to recall the fight ending with him dying, impaled on her katana after bringing down an apartment complex on top of both of them. And she ends up killing Lio as well.


    And also, it seemed to me that a lot of the... eh, I can't quite think of the phrase, but it's something similar to intrapersonal conflict, took place because Shiki wanted to be a killer but was never quiiiite able to, whether because of outside interference or because of her own strange sense of right and wrong.

    Oh, and another thing. The split personality stuff is not, in fact, mumbo jumbo to be believed or not. It is a confirmed part of the Kara no Kyoukai canon that many of the Ryougi's have the ability to create a second personality within themselves, and that trait determines the next family head.

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    Or, in Shiki's case, she manifests three. Shiki, SHIKI, and Blank.


    Again, all confirmed parts of canon. Not something to be believed or disbelieved, but statements of fact.
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