[3.5/PF] GitP Regulars as NPCs

[noob]

Edit up front:
Comment on the build suggesting to raise some stats and to lower two stats

Well I re-balanced the stats based on what you said.
Also personally I like a lot the second character(the factotum/chameleon) which have been built for you.

[NeoPhoenix0]

NeoPhoenix0
Size/Type: Medium Human
Class: Factotum 5/Chameleon 7

Oh wow, I was not expecting this, or anyone to actually read that wall of text. You know the entire point of that one paragraph with my many hobbies was to point out how silly it is to try and be realistic in d&d. Though it does give you a chance to use all of those huge number of skill points. I really need to play a factotum sometime, probably not a very optimized one though. I could probably find some interesting interactions between its abilities for a bit of fun.

[Eldan]

Psh. Realistic version of me:

Eldan
Human Expert 3
Str 8, Dex 7, Con 6, Int 15, Wis 12, Cha 10
Feats: Skill Focus: Knowledge (nature), Iron Will, Open minded

Most of us would be similar to that, more or less. Slightly different, but similar stat array, few different feats, but more or less like that. It's not very interesting.

[Milo v3]

Iirc according to the PF alcohol rules, I'd have a con score of at least 20. So the rest of my array is either very very good cause I picked a good array, or abysmal cause it's point buy.

[khadgar567]

Iirc according to the PF alcohol rules, I'd have a con score of at least 20. So the rest of my array is either very very good cause I picked a good array, or abysmal cause it's point buy.

me vanilla average Joe aka standard array for stats
flaw still sane among the insane
class common man

[Jormengand]

Psh. Realistic version of me:

Eldan
Human Expert 3
Str 8, Dex 7, Con 6, Int 15, Wis 12, Cha 10
Feats: Skill Focus: Knowledge (nature), Iron Will, Open minded

Most of us would be similar to that, more or less. Slightly different, but similar stat array, few different feats, but more or less like that. It's not very interesting.

I put myself as:

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Human, 2nd-level Expert
Size and Type: Medium humanoid (human)
Hit Dice: 2d6-2 (5 hp)
Initiative: +1
Speed: 30 ft (6 squares)
Armour Class: 11 (1 dex)
Space and Reach: +1/+0
Attack: Unarmed Strike +1 melee (1d3-1)
Full Attack: Unarmed Strike +1 melee (1d3-1)
Space and Reach: 5 ft/5 ft
Special Attacks: Harm (Self only) 1/day
Special Qualities: Human traits
Saves: Fort -1 Ref +1 Wil +5
Abilities: Str 8 Dex 12 Con 8 Wis 14 Int 18 Cha 10
Skills: Craft (Alchemy) +9, Heal +10, Hide +6, Knowledge (Engineering) +9, Knowledge (Nature) +9 Knowledge (Religion) +9, Move Silently +6, Perform (Oratory) +5, Sleight of Hand +6, Swim +7, Tumble +6
Feats: Skill focus (Heal), Skill Focus (Swim)
Environment: Cities and towns.
Organisation: Solitary
Challenge Rating: 1
Treasure: None
Alignment: Always True Neutral
Advancement: By character class
Level Adjustment: 0

[IZ42]

If we're doing this, I'm probably something like this:

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Human, 3rd-level Warrior (Favored Class: Warrior)
Size and Type: Medium humanoid (human)
Hit Dice: 3d10 (18 hp)
Initiative: +1
Speed: 30 ft (6 squares)
Armour Class: 11 (1 dex)
Attack: Unarmed Strike +5 melee (1d3+2), Pocket Knife +5 Melee (1d4+2)
Full Attack: Unarmed Strike +5 melee (1d3+2), Pocket Knife +5 Melee (1d4+2)
Space and Reach: 5 ft/5 ft
Special Attacks: Grapple +7
Saves: Fort +3 Ref +2 Wil +4
Abilities: Str 14 Dex 12 Con 10 Wis 7 Int 16 Cha 8
Skills: Perform (Cello) +9, Swim +7, Knowledge (Nature) +5, Knowledge (History) +5, Intimidate +5, Knowledge (Dungeoneering) +4, Stealth +3, Bluff +2
Feats: Keen Intellect, Improved Unarmed Strike, Skill Focus (Perform [Cello]), Flaw: Inattentive (Feat: Improved Grapple)
Environment: Suburbs.
Organisation: Solitary
Challenge Rating: 2
Treasure: None
Alignment: Always True Neutral
Advancement: By character class
Level Adjustment: 0
Traits: Clever Wordplay (Perform)

[Sagetim]

Oh wow, I was not expecting this, or anyone to actually read that wall of text. You know the entire point of that one paragraph with my many hobbies was to point out how silly it is to try and be realistic in d&d. Though it does give you a chance to use all of those huge number of skill points. I really need to play a factotum sometime, probably not a very optimized one though. I could probably find some interesting interactions between its abilities for a bit of fun.

Psh, I would have statted you up as an arcane heirophant because of your shadow druid tendencies in the previous GITP regulars thread.:P

[LoyalPaladin]

Psh, I would have statted you up as an arcane heirophant because of your shadow druid tendencies in the previous GITP regulars thread.:P

NeoPhoenix strikes me as a Chaotician at times.

[NeoPhoenix0]

NeoPhoenix strikes me as a Chaotician at times.

For some reason looking at the Chaotician made me think of combining the duskblade and shadowcaster in a build. That was right after thinking that the prc would look good on a duskblade then shadowcasters are both int and cha based. Finally who needs the chaotician. I think that is the main problem i have with the prc it makes me think of other things to do besides it.

Unfortunately as the shadowcaster advances his casting, his low level spells become unable to be channeled. Though the channeling is a little bit tenuous in the first place.

Edit: I do love the Theory of the Strange Tropes though

[illyahr]

I grant permission! Let's see what you can make of me.

Oh, as an aside: I'm named after a silver half-dragon paladin that I've used in game on occasion (that's for you, LP )

[IZ42]

I like how when any gamers have to stat themselves, they usually have almost genius level IQs.

To be fair, I only gave myself a 16, which is probably closer to a 15 than anything. I used to be smarter, but then kickboxing. I think I might have gotten a concussion and not realized it.

Though the weird thing is my grasp of Math is far more limited than my grasp of History and Science.

[Sagetim]

I like how when any gamers have to stat themselves, they usually have almost genius level IQs.

To be fair, when I take the tests that are online, they tend to rate me at a 16 to 17, sometimes 18 for int. And then there's that one of 'what class are you' that everyone seems to have in their sig, and mine came out as Dungeon Master.

[Marlowe]

Spoiler: Bit of work this one.

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[atemu1234]

I like how when any gamers have to stat themselves, they usually have almost genius level IQs.

You haven't seen my tests.

To be fair, D&D is a complex game. I'm fairly certain most of us who play it have above-average IQs. In my experience, at least.

[IZ42]

You haven't seen my tests.

To be fair, D&D is a complex game. I'm fairly certain most of us who play it have above-average IQs. In my experience, at least.

The 'Worst Players' Thread begs to differ.

[atemu1234]

The 'Worst Players' Thread begs to differ.

Most people there do not understand the intricacies of the game or are just jerks, intelligence quotient besides.

[Blackhawk748]

The 'Worst Players' Thread begs to differ.

Thats Charisma

[IZ42]

Thats Charisma

Many of those people would have regular or high Charisma. Charisma does not automatically equate to likeability or even social capability. You can have someone who does not understand other people at all and still have a forceful or overbearing personality.

There are also people in there who can't do 6th grade math or remember anything they've been told, despite playing such a game for <X> time and/or being in their 20s, indicative of low intelligence.

[Blackhawk748]

Many of those people would have regular or high Charisma. Charisma does not automatically equate to likeability or even social capability. You can have someone who does not understand other people at all and still have a forceful or overbearing personality.

There are also people in there who can't do 6th grade math or remember anything they've been told, despite playing such a game for <X> time and/or being in their 20s, indicative of low intelligence.

That is valid, mental stats always seemed to have a lot of overlap to me.

[Jormengand]

I like how when any gamers have to stat themselves, they usually have almost genius level IQs.

Technically, I actually do. Which makes me think less of myself as clever and more of everyone else as really stupid.

[khadgar567]

Technically, I actually do. Which makes me think less of myself as clever and more of everyone else as really stupid.

I hear you jormengand sometimes I really need to make sanity check by seeing regular people do insane stuff like in d&d terms cast epic fireball in non epic first level while dumping all casting stats to 3( and with out using forgotten tradition feat)

[TheifofZ]

I hereby give permission to NPC the heck out of me.

And yeah. People are batcrap insane, guys. Absolutely out there. It's pretty nuts.

[khadgar567]

I hereby give permission to NPC the heck out of me.

And yeah. People are batcrap insane, guys. Absolutely out there. It's pretty nuts.

sorry bud but what I see is vanilla mortal doing wtf inducing thinks and judge you insane instead of checking with mental institution for their mental healt

[TheifofZ]

sorry bud but what I see is vanilla mortal doing wtf inducing thinks and judge you insane instead of checking with mental institution for their mental healt

Let's try this again. With actual english this time. Did you mean "what I see is a vanilla mortal doing wtf inducing things before judging you insane, instead of checking with a mental help institution to judge their mental health"?
Or... something else?

[Milo v3]

sorry bud but what I see is vanilla mortal doing wtf inducing thinks and judge you insane instead of checking with mental institution for their mental healt

That... didn't really make sense at all with what you replied to.

[khadgar567]

Let's try this again. With actual english this time. Did you mean "what I see is a vanilla mortal doing wtf inducing things before judging you insane, instead of checking with a mental help institution to judge their mental health"?
Or... something else?

yep that all it try to say

[TheifofZ]

yep that all it try to say

Pulp Fiction references spring readily to mind, but I'll forgo the obvious and let it slide in favor of just asking.
English isn't your first language, is it?

[Marlowe]

sorry bud but what I see is vanilla mortal doing wtf inducing thinks and judge you insane instead of checking with mental institution for their mental healt

"I apologise, my friend. But all I see are normal people doing bizarre things [implied: That such things aren't that bizarre at all] and [I] pronounce you insane [for calling them crazy] before obtaining a report on their condition by a registered mental health professional."

Response: Tech: Dragonslave: I was not aware that professional citations were required before posting off-hand comments on the internet.

[khadgar567]

Pulp Fiction references spring readily to mind, but I'll forgo the obvious and let it slide in favor of just asking.
English isn't your first language, is it?

yes my mother language is Turkish
and that was accident on reference part