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2015-08-21, 06:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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Destroy the Entire Universe
Simple concept. Destroy the entire universe. There are three categories.
1. Core only (I do not expect this to go anywhere, but it cannot hurt to ask)
2. Core + complete series, frostburn, PHBII, and the spell compendium Try to make this low cheese.
3. Screw it. Max cheese (no pun pun), no book limitations.
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2015-08-21, 06:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Destroy the Entire Universe
Any creature that doesn't need to breath can just wish for an item giving flight and at-will disintegrate. That will eventually get the job done, particularly if you stack simulacrum or ice assassin to create some support.
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2015-08-21, 06:40 PM (ISO 8601)
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3. Sphere of Annihilation -> Well of Many Worlds to destroy the material plane, as per Elder Evils p. 142. Repeat once for each plane in existence.
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2015-08-21, 07:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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Infinite wish trick. We all know how. Then gate in lots of minions to help do the following:
Wish for a skull talisman of irresistible (KoKPG, +4 meta removes save) Pierce the Veil (KoKPG, +any, +5 SR penetration/level, apply arbitrary number of times) chain (CA, +3 meta affects CL targets, max 20) polymorph any object, CL 1,000,000100,000,000. This is a safe wish, even though the item is astronomically powerful. Do the same with blah-blah-metamagic-CL-blah disintegrate. Your exponentially increasing number of allies needs to use these to turn up to 20 celestial objects at once into tiny boxes, and then destroy the tiny boxes. Plane Shifting may be of use here.
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2015-08-21, 07:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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Those do not work. At any point in time (assuming no one is interrupting yer werk) those methods will have destroyed finite (if huge) volume of multiverse. The multiverse has infinite volume (because it has at least one plane of infinite volume (let's say elemental plane of earth)). Therefore at any given point in time almost whole of multiverse (i.e. all multiverse except subset of it of finite volume) exists. So those methods do not destroy multiverse in finite time.
This sounds like it might work. Can you share details/ source of that "Well of Many Worlds"?
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2015-08-21, 07:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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Could you expand EpOE abbreviation. I can not respond properly without knowing what you mean (also: using wish you can get item with arbitrarily-high but finite CL which is different (for purpose of infinite sphere destruction) from infinite-CL level item).
That does rely on a cosmological theory (finite-but-expanding-universe) that is not necessarily true (I do not remember if volume of 1st sphere is finite or not) & it does rely on expansion of the finite sphere being slower than expansion of annihilated radius (... that one is rather hard to compare);
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Re: Destroy the Entire Universe
Boom. Several of these could theoretically be scaled to destroy the entire universe- Solar tribbling, brown mold expansion, and Iron Heart Surging away the electromagnetic force ("It's preventing me from walking through that wall over there!") come to mind.
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2015-08-21, 08:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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Last edited by Rubik; 2015-08-21 at 08:16 PM.
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2015-08-21, 08:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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AFAIK the WoMW doesn't appear outside of Elder Evils, specifically the chapter on The Worm That Walks, and even there it isn't given particular statistics. What matters is that putting a Sphere of Annihilation inside a Well of Many Worlds creates "a “black hole,” annihilating everything in existence. If abandoned, it picks up speed and power, drawing the island, the waters, the air and everything else on the Material Plane into its dimensional fissure, erasing all existence in 1d12+6 minutes."
Elemental Plane of Earth (technically should've been EPoE but w/e). I also think it is just as much one object as a pile of sand is one object, i.e. not at all. You'd have to clear out the EPoE by volume.Please use they/them/theirs when referring to me in the third person.
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"The Elemental Plane of Earth is a solid place made of rock, soil, and stone. An unwary and unprepared traveler may find himself entombed within this vast solidity of material and have his life crushed into nothingness, his powdered remains a warning to any foolish enough to follow.
Despite its solid, unyielding nature, the Elemental Plane of Earth is varied in its consistency, ranging from relatively soft soil to veins of heavier and more valuable metal." (Much like how a dragon is made of scales, blood, bones and flesh, among other things).
Well, honestly, I would contend that electromagnetism, as far as D&D is concerned, doesn't exist, if it did it wouldn't be an effect, and if it was it wouldn't have a duration, and if it did, it would be instantaneous, because durations other than instantaneous are only conferred upon spells in which "The energy remains as long as the effect does. This means the spell is vulnerable to dispel magic. " Because electromagnetism isn't a spell, it doesn't have a defined duration: there is no value called "Duration" attached to it. Since it's nonmagical, if it is the result of a spell, that spell must be instantaneous.Last edited by Jormengand; 2015-08-21 at 08:34 PM.
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2015-08-21, 08:42 PM (ISO 8601)
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Rockburst, cast on the Elemental Plane of Earth.
Destroy the Elemental Plane of Earth, and the Material Plane collapses because the fundamental principle of "earth" no longer exists.
Collapse the Material Plane, and suddenly the rest of the Great Wheel flies apart.
Booyah. Destroy all of reality with a 2nd level spell.Last edited by Rubik; 2015-08-21 at 08:52 PM.
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2015-08-21, 08:54 PM (ISO 8601)
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2015-08-21, 10:07 PM (ISO 8601)
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Does "no pun-pun" prohibit gaining wish as a SLA or Su ability (zodar, i'm looking at you...) and then creating a magic item that destroys the universe?
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2015-08-21, 11:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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Guys, I don't think this challenge is easily doable. Is there even anything in d&d that has the potential to truly "destroy" (as in, remove matter&energy from the multiverse)?
And even if you could truly destroy matter/energy, what do you do to destroy space itself? A thoroughly empty universe is still there, it's just.. empty.
As for previous answers:
Using disintegrate on everything in the universe cannot possibly destroy it. Because disintegrate doesn't destroy, just... disintegrate. And if you turn everything in the universe to dust, it just reassembles from the leftover clouds, only for another evil mastermind to come along some billion years later and try again.
Throwing around near-infinite amounts of black holes to absorb everything seems a bit odd aswell. Afterwards we have an ocean of black holes, which will then move closer to each other and [insert really cool physics experiment here] - yeah, no idea what would happen, it'd probably be cool, though. Either way, black holes are not "nothing" (and the stuff they're absorbing isn't removed from the universe, just added to their mass) so the universe isn't even close to destroyed.
And if you rockburst the elemental plane of earth (which, first of all, is not "one singular rock"), it's simply going to be the elemental plane of sand/dust afterwards (rockburst explodes a rock, it doesn't destroy it completely), which probably still is close enough to the concept of "earth" to not take apart the great wheel thingy.
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2015-08-22, 04:17 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Destroy the Entire Universe
Be of size C and have the swallow whole ability and the feat allowing to swallow stuff of your size.
Itemize the multiverse since there is a limit to size C it is a size C item and you can swallow it.
Now since all the matter is at the same place it create an infinitely massive black hole which is probably going to make a lot of fun and unknown physical effects.
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