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    Default Re: Help on a Binder build

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    Hello again guys

    I would like to know about the Dex-based Binder you were talking about. I'll add the unseelie fey template to my character and since it have -2 str and +2 dex I think changing to dex-based would be a great idea. My initial scores were:

    Str 16
    Dex 12
    Con 14
    Int 10
    Wis 8
    Cha 18

    With the Unseelie Fey Template and a Dexterity approach I think it would look like this:

    Str 10
    Dex 16
    Con 14
    Int 10
    Wis 8
    Cha 20

    Do you think it's ok? I know Paimon will be my guy until later levels but I wanted advice in early game survival (starting lvl 1) Equipment and tips or something Dx Idk

    Thanks again for everything! you guys are awesome :B
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    Grab Improved Binding and get Paimon ASAP, you will be a happier person, also you're gonna want to get Shadow Blade, for Dex to Damage, so either 2 Feats (Martial Study and Martial Stance) or 1 level of Swordsage. After that continue with Binder as required.
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    Default Re: Help on a Binder build

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackhawk748 View Post
    Grab Improved Binding and get Paimon ASAP, you will be a happier person, also you're gonna want to get Shadow Blade, for Dex to Damage, so either 2 Feats (Martial Study and Martial Stance) or 1 level of Swordsage. After that continue with Binder as required.
    I would suggest the feats investment, if only because a sword sage dip is going to slow down your binding progression. Weapon Finesse would probably also be helpful (I can't recall off hand if paimon gives that or not).

    Also, sword sage is a 3/4th bab class, so a 1 level dip is going to eat into your bab. And if you want to hit things, you're going to need that bab. And you don't have enough wisdom to make a second sword sage level particularly useful (the level where you get to add wis to ac while in light or no armor).

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    I would suggest the feats investment, if only because a sword sage dip is going to slow down your binding progression. Weapon Finesse would probably also be helpful (I can't recall off hand if paimon gives that or not).

    Also, sword sage is a 3/4th bab class, so a 1 level dip is going to eat into your bab. And if you want to hit things, you're going to need that bab. And you don't have enough wisdom to make a second sword sage level particularly useful (the level where you get to add wis to ac while in light or no armor).
    Paimon gives Weapon Finesse. I only recommend the feats if you have the feats to burn, otherwise the Dip is nice. Yes it slaps your BaB, but you get 5 Maneuvers and a Stance, and if you take the dip at level 5 (or 6) you can take 2nd level Maneuvers. Hello Mountain Hammer.
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    Uhmmm I think I'll be taking the two feats. Im human and with a couple of flaws it should work ok. Thanks for the replies c:!
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