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Thread: Savage Species Ogre and Troll
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2015-08-27, 06:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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Savage Species Ogre and Troll
I'd it possible using savage species role for the troll and default ogre to be playable and not a severe detriment to the rest of a standard party? I'm talking the actualkmster classss and not the bloodlines.
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2015-08-27, 07:43 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Savage Species Ogre and Troll
Savage Species sticks to the Monster Manuel version of the races. So your real question is "Did WotC nerf Ogre/Troll to below playable races?". The answer is yes.
But your followup question would be what would be needed to make them playable/how far off are they.
Trolls have the health of a Fighter half their level and get roughly 1 interesting thing every 2 levels. If your party includes a Fighter, then merely give the Troll a HD every level rather than every other level. Ogres are in a similar situation(less health than Fighter, 1 interesting thing per 2 levels). Now if your party avoids Fighter for being too weak/boring then you would be better off cutting Troll and Ogre in half but keeping all the Special column.
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2015-08-27, 07:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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2015-08-27, 08:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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2015-08-27, 11:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Savage Species Ogre and Troll
PF has you treat the creatures CR as their 'Level' so a troll would count as a level five from SS. That might be fairly more balanced. Even allows buy off to half their CR rounded down.