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    Question Re: Being Everything: Eggynack's Comprehensive Druid Handbook

    In the free online (3.0) adventure "An Icy Heart", there's a new magic item called the Amulet of Freedom of Speech:

    Amulet of Freedom of Speech
    This amulet allows the wearer to verbally communicate despite lacking the physical ability to do so. For example, an awakened animal or plant that could not normally form words can do so while wearing this item. Note that the amulet does not impart any language ability—the wearer must have something to say.
    Caster Level: 7th; Prerequisites: Craft Wondrous Item; Market Price: 5,000.
    ...would this allow a Druid in Wildshape to cast spells without requiring the Natural Spell feat?

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    speech pearl is cheaper

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    Question Re: Being Everything: Eggynack's Comprehensive Druid Handbook

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    Pearl of Speech is specific to one language: does that include verbal spell components?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Endarire View Post
    Also remember that enhance wild shape allows taking of Plant forms and you can be affected by different effects from the list simultaneously via multiple castings, making Kelp Anglers available to Druids at 11, Boar Topiary Guardians at 7, and certain other forms sooner than 12.
    True, I suppose. Not sure if that necessitates adjustments.

    Extract water elemental (Spell Compendium 86): This Druid6 and Sor/Wiz6 spell does d6 nonlethal damage per caster level (max 20d6) with SR: Yes and a Fort save for half. If you kill the subject with this spell, and this subject lacks the [Fire] subtype, you get a Water Elemental of the same size from this subject's corpse (max Huge) for 1 minute. It's a unique 2fer spell.
    Seems kinda mostly bad. Like, it's a super overleveled blasting spell with occasional upside, and said upside could quite plausibly be nothing or very little, depending on target and situation.
    Summon greater elemental (Spell Compendium 214): This Druid6 spell summons a Greater Elemental (water/air/fire/earth) for Concentration (max 1 round per level + 1 round) and otherwise lets you access Greater Elementals sooner. No SNA-linked bonuses though, like from Ashbound.
    Decent, but the costs seem too big for the upside. Huge to greater is a reasonable buff, but the lack of spontaneity, the wonky duration, and, as you noted, the loss of synergies aren't ideal.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thurbane View Post
    In the free online (3.0) adventure "An Icy Heart", there's a new magic item called the Amulet of Freedom of Speech:

    ...would this allow a Druid in Wildshape to cast spells without requiring the Natural Spell feat?
    It'd clear the verbal components hurdle. You'd still need to clear the material and somatics components hurdles, but there's ways. Seems great though. Like a less wonky but more expensive pearl of speech.

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    Thomils from Rashemi Elemental Summoning have the spiffy Engulf (Ex) ability which lets them eat smaller creatures (sometimes without a save!) then Earth Glide into a wall, ceiling, or floor and just trap a foe there. It's like being eaten and buried alive - 20' or more under!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Endarire View Post
    Thomils from Rashemi Elemental Summoning have the spiffy Engulf (Ex) ability which lets them eat smaller creatures (sometimes without a save!) then Earth Glide into a wall, ceiling, or floor and just trap a foe there. It's like being eaten and buried alive - 20' or more under!
    I'm a bit skeptical that this would work that way. Being inside your rocky body doesn't confer the capacity to travel through rock to your victim, so while there doesn't seem to be anything stopping you from earth gliding while engulfing someone, the logical result of this would be the engulfee popping out of your body. It's a cool idea though.

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    Earth Glide: I understood this to be like inside something while it's swallowing a victim. ("Engulfed creatures are considered grappled and trapped within the thomil's body..." -Thomil template) The Earth Elemental entry had nothing saying Earth Glide was self-only.

    Orglash: Higher HD forms mean higher caster levels for SR-beating purposes. And whirlwind DCs.

    Thomil: Higher HD forms mean higher caster levels for SR-boosting purposes. And engulf DCs.

    These might make summon greater elemental worthwhile as a level 6 prepared spell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Endarire View Post
    The Earth Elemental entry had nothing saying Earth Glide was self-only.
    It has nothing saying it's not self-only, and nothing implying that sharing is an intrinsic part of the universe of this ability. Earth glide says it lets the earth elemental swim through rock and such. That does not imply in the least that it lets things holding or held by the earth elemental swim through rock, and engulfing in and of itself doesn't change that.

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