Ménage à 3 V: YAOI SENSE TINGLING

[Cikomyr]

Man, Zii, that's how you get on a list.

You are such weird puritans in the US

[-D-]

That said, I'm glad we got more info on this episode. I've always been one who didn't think Zii's actions back then were a problem. I guess the Ma3verse agrees.

What you mean? This comic doesn't take place on Earth. No sane people act like this. As far as I am concerned, it's essentially comic about lizard people that learned all about humans from porn and episodes of Dynasty.

Edit: wrong quote.

[halfeye]

This comic doesn't take place on Earth.

Correct IMHO.

No sane people act like this.

I'm far from sure there are a majority of sane people on Earth.

[Tvtyrant]

You are such weird puritans in the US

Yeah providing minors access to restricted materials without their parent's permission is just healthy, amirite?

[JadedDM]

It looks like it's just video of two women making out. That's hardly porn.

[Cikomyr]

Yeah providing minors access to restricted materials without their parent's permission is just healthy, amirite?

Exactly. Thank you for providing a good example for your weird puritanical mentalities.

I'll never understand why you obsess so much about the relationship between base sexuality and sexually awakened minors.

[Discus-Spinner]

Yeah... you don't give porn to kids... you just... tell them where to look on the internet.

Actually, word of god from Giz is that this is still image in which Zii and Amber are actually dressed (you can see the straps in the strip image). So it's two fully clothed women, kissing. Fairly hard for anyone to class it as actual porn (outside of insanely restrictive jurisdictions, anyway, but this is Canada). It's actually tamer than a lot of stuff that shows up in mainstream newspaper celeb gossip pages.

What the sleazy adolescent male chooses to do with it is his business.

[-D-]

I'm far from sure there are a majority of sane people on Earth.

Sure but there are some.

If I was in that situation, I'd definitely be embarrassed and not bragged about it.

I mean, sure, dude, your mom ****ed a pornstar's ex, and your dad is a scumbag. Woohoo. I guess your mom ****s more chicks than you? Congrats?

This all feels like thinly veiled excuse for Zii behavior, or episode of Menage a Tri-Lizard.

[Kato]

What you mean? This comic doesn't take place on Earth. No sane people act like this. As far as I am concerned, it's essentially comic about lizard people that learned all about humans from porn and episodes of Dynasty.

Edit: wrong quote.

Well, point taken, kinda. I already said it's not our universe, hence the rules are a bit different.

But without making this more... Political.. I was joking. I don't care if it's an image or a video or a link and just two girls making out or more. The boy is old enough and what he does with it is up to him. Without starting a discussion on censoring or child protection... If he was way younger it would be different but with.. What was his name? Pussyslayer? Yeah..

[halfeye]

The boy is old enough and what he does with it is up to him.

In the current image he looks about thirteen. If it's been established that he's older than that, he's short.

I am not defending the current rules, I am saying so far as they apply, he appears to be out of bounds under them.

[-D-]

But without making this more... Political.. I was joking.

Sorry, I was joking too Except for the lizards. I think they are either lizard people or slugs. I'm more inclined towards slugs now.

On serious side, I found the whole thing essentially, "I (the writer) need to justify doing awful stuff to the kid. Let's make him happy, even though I doubt such set of circumstances is supremely unlikely to arise in real world".

In the current image he looks about thirteen. If it's been established that he's older than that, he's short.

I am not defending the current rules, I am saying so far as they apply, he appears to be out of bounds under them.

Silly half eye, lizards and slugs reach adolesence way before thirteen years, so he is legal.

[Wraith]

I think I'm with -D- on this one. I consider myself fairly open minded and not particularly prudish, but on the other hand I cannot imagine ANY set of circumstances that would lead to me bragging to my friends about who my mother has slept with. Even before you reach the argument about him potentially being underage, it's just.... weird.

I secondly agree that this feels like Giz trying to turn a weird situation into something positive in order to prevent it from reflecting badly on their character, regardless of how ludicrous it seems. I think the correct Trope would be "Author's Saving Throw" on behalf of Zii, who she is attempting to make less of a pervert and more that she is simply prone to wacky hijinks, but this current rehash of a very unfortunate incident still have the lingering reek of Dominic Deegan-esque shenanigans about it....

[Olinser]

I think I'm with -D- on this one. I consider myself fairly open minded and not particularly prudish, but on the other hand I cannot imagine ANY set of circumstances that would lead to me bragging to my friends about who my mother has slept with. Even before you reach the argument about him potentially being underage, it's just.... weird.

I secondly agree that this feels like Giz trying to turn a weird situation into something positive in order to prevent it from reflecting badly on their character, regardless of how ludicrous it seems. I think the correct Trope would be "Author's Saving Throw" on behalf of Zii, who she is attempting to make less of a pervert and more that she is simply prone to wacky hijinks, but this current rehash of a very unfortunate incident still have the lingering reek of Dominic Deegan-esque shenanigans about it....

Given that those of us who don't even read some of the other crappy offshoot comics weren't even AWARE of this particular occurrence in the first place, it most definitely was not a good idea to bring it up in the main comic.

[Cikomyr]

Ahhh.. Dominic Deegan. I used to like that webcomic so much in the days. Talk about something people turned sour on fast.

[Discus-Spinner]

I think the correct Trope would be "Author's Saving Throw" on behalf of Zii, who she is attempting to make less of a pervert and more that she is simply prone to wacky hijinks, but this current rehash of a very unfortunate incident still have the lingering reek of Dominic Deegan-esque shenanigans about it....

Zii is a pervert prone to wacky hijinks. That is pretty much the point about this sort of sex comedy. Complaining about it seems a bit futile.

And the fact that Zii originally hurt Vyndicator was also the point of that particular sequence of strips. He was a deeply obnoxious online troll, who'd managed to get a rise out of Zii, who's comically vengeful. The fact that her revenge ended up involving helping a deeply unhappy woman to get out of a bad marriage (as was made entirely clear at the time) was the wacky hijinks part.

However, a number of readers at the time decided that this was disproportionate revenge (like comedy revenge is ever proportionate), and made so much noise on the Pixietrix boards that this ended up being a mod-banned topic. And yes, this now looks like the writers going back to the old incident to emphasise that Zii's actions were beneficial rather than excessive. Me, I don't think that they should have bothered - but they're not saying much that they didn't actually say the first time round.

Given that those of us who don't even read some of the other crappy offshoot comics weren't even AWARE of this particular occurrence in the first place, it most definitely was not a good idea to bring it up in the main comic.

The original Vyndicator incident did not occur in an offshoot comic; it was onscreen in Ma3. If you weren't aware of it, you probably just haven't been reading the comic for long enough.

[SaintRidley]

It looks like it's just video of two women making out. That's hardly porn.

It may only be a static photo, at that.

I think we probably worry too much about logic when it comes to this genre of comedy. That's not and never has been the point.

[Wraith]

I think I can see the EXACT moment where Giz came back and started writing for the comic again. To the panel, almost.

I'm kind of wondering why Kiley even cares that Didi may or may not like wrestling, and is trying to get her to admit it like some kind of intervention. Because clearly, people who enjoy watching wrestling are.....

.....well, what? She likes watching wrestling. Who cares? Why is this even a thing? Is the implication supposed to be that wrestling fans are some kind of sub-human nerd and that if she admits to it, Didi will no longer be as bomb-shell sexy as she currently is? I fail to see how it's in any way a bad thing; I mean, it's pretty much her ony defining characteristic outside of "Speaks French", "Is beautiful" and "Isn't very bright", which you'd think in a comic where the repressed Christian anime virgin is now a successful graphic designer with a harem of sex-buddies, having an interest in something - ANYTHING - would count as positive character growth.

I'm just..... so confused over the fact that nothing is happening but the characters seem to be resisting it anyway.

[Benthesquid]

I think mostly Kiley wants Didi to admit an interest in wrestling, because that would be an interest that doesn't give Kiley hand cramps.

[Discus-Spinner]

I think I can see the EXACT moment where Giz came back and started writing for the comic again. To the panel, almost.

I'm glad I'm not the only reader who can see a distinct difference in tone between the comic's two writers.

I'm kind of wondering why Kiley even cares that Didi may or may not like wrestling, and is trying to get her to admit it like some kind of intervention.

I think that it's stage one in a process that leads to DiDi ceasing to treat Kiley as her personal pet/girlfriend/indentured therapist/sex slave. DiDi was naturally pleased to have her first orgasm, and not too surprisingly fixated on Kiley a bit as a result - but she's incapable of doing things by halves, and now she won't let go. She's declared that Kiley is not just the subject of her affection, but her one true love, the be-all and end-all of her existence. And this has got to the stage where she can't admit that she has any other interests, to Kiley or to herself.

So now Kiley is forcing her to admit that she's deceiving herself. She's interested enough in wrestling to distract her from Kiley. And once she acknowledges that, Kiley can get on with the process of peeling her away generally.

This doesn't make an interest in wrestling good or bad, though it's definitely not something that Kiley shares; it just means it's a thing that DiDi feels strongly.

[Kato]

I'm glad I'm not the only reader who can see a distinct difference in tone between the comic's two writers.

I wouldn't call it tone but "being fun" and.. Well, not being fun. Or as much fun. Though I guess this is because of how whacky things are.

I'll agree on Kiley in no way attempting to discourage D's interest in wrestling but encourage it in her therapist ways. Though I'm quite confused how D isn't already admitting it.

Zii is fun to watch, but that last panel is a bit... Geez, you're in public.

And SotR is fueling my otp.. Uhm, thanks?

[Benthesquid]

Zii is fun to watch, but that last panel is a bit... Geez, you're in public.

She's just worried he may have lost his Star Power.

[Cikomyr]

When did Gary go all the way with Yuki? I dont remember

[Discus-Spinner]

I wouldn't call it tone but "being fun" and.. Well, not being fun. Or as much fun. Though I guess this is because of how whacky things are.

Well, there are a fair number of people who evidently think that Dave01's style of writing is fun. And to be fair, when he gets something like Sandra on the Rocks right, it can be quite fun. But if you value characterisation and a touch of soap opera over unrelenting geeky in-jokes, yep, Giz is more fun.

I'll agree on Kiley in no way attempting to discourage D's interest in wrestling but encourage it in her therapist ways. Though I'm quite confused how D isn't already admitting it.

DiDi is too stupid to do anything by halves. She can't just love Kiley (for frankly rather selfish reasons), Kiley has to be the love of her life and her only passion. Therefore, she can't admit to her passion for wrestling.

When did Gary go all the way with Yuki? I dont remember

Technically, between panels in strip #1200. Actually seen in flashback in strip #1204. Neither is very SFW, funnily enough.

[Benthesquid]

... Is Ma3 about to have a special guest appearance by The Undertaker?

(Yes, I'm sure other wrestlers have done the lights out ring entrance gimmick)

[SaintRidley]

... Is Ma3 about to have a special guest appearance by The Undertaker?

(Yes, I'm sure other wrestlers have done the lights out ring entrance gimmick)

Numerous ones. Though Taker is still active, so he was a possibility.

[lingotony]

We only know about those two longer-term relationships in Zii's past,* but a lot of that past is unknown to the readers. I personally think that the best explanation for her whole behaviour pattern at the start of the comic involves a fairly serious relationship in her late teens that went sour when the other person dumped her very hard. (So she decided to get the loving-and-leaving thing in first in future.) No proof, but it fits so well.

Which said, yeah, she may have learned a lesson or two these last few months. Still, I don't see her deciding to avoid Izzy as requiring much new wisdom. Whereas Yuki started out looking like an interesting ****buddy, and Sonya as a really hot fling, before they both turned out to be terribly clingy, Izzy's behaviour just screams "scary nutjob" from out of the box. Zii would have to be completely drowning in hormones to miss that. If she had real sense, she'd be working out how to avoid Izzy altogether by now.



*Actually, we could also add Amber, with whom she apparently spent hours locked in her room back in their teens, and who has more recently received multiple booty calls. It may never have been a "serious" relationship, but it endured for a while, twice.

Great points!

[SaintRidley]

Well, Didi just learned a whole new feeling.

[Yana]

Here's hoping against hope that she doesn't continue this obsession with Kiley any further.

Who are we really kidding though?

[halfeye]

Here's hoping against hope that she doesn't continue this obsession with Kiley any further.

Who are we really kidding though?

The thing is, she's dumped dozens. If she starts thinking about that, it might be interesting.

[Kato]

Oh, wow.... Now I wonder what Gary can possibly do to get out of this... I mean, the first time in her life DiDi seems to be miserable (kind of) and she's making one weird decision after another...