Nude Bard/Sublime Chord/Heartwarder/Vow of Poverty Build

[Frosty]

Taylor, how would an evil version of this feat look like? There might be some fun BBEGs that could make use of a continuous Fascinate ability. Besides changing the fluff, would anything else need to be done?

Also, you do not need to be human. Just take a Flaw or two.

[Talya]

Taylor, how would an evil version of this feat look like? There might be some fun BBEGs that could make use of a continuous Fascinate ability. Besides changing the fluff, would anything else need to be done?

Also, you do not need to be human. Just take a Flaw or two.

Woah, necropost.

It's Talya, btw.

Without the vow of poverty, this feat doesn't work so well, and I have a hard time imagining an evil version of the vow of poverty.

[Fenix_of_Doom]

Woah, necropost.

It's Talya, btw.

Without the vow of poverty, this feat doesn't work so well, and I have a hard time imagining an evil version of the vow of poverty.

Homebrew it; Vow of Greed
prerequisites: must be evil
Effect: Must absorb all it's loot so that nobody else can ever get to it!
exept: stuff you can keep with vow of poverty
bonus: sort of like vow of poverty, but change the exalted feats for something more evil.

Edit: alternative:
tithe to the dark gods
offer all you wealth in return for unholy power

maybe create a "dark pact" feat to create symmetry with VoP

[EvilElitest]

Cause if you insert Succubi into this creation, many a 14-16 year old will die of blood loss..


...you know what? Insert a succubi. (evil grin)

as a 16 year old my self, i wish that wasn't true


On the topic of creation, this really wants me to create more rules about dying of exposer, because walking around nude all days would really have some problem (hence why we stopped doing it )
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[Thinker]

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[Talya]

On the topic of creation, this really wants me to create more rules about dying of exposer, because walking around nude all days would really have some problem

See bolded section, below.

In addition, they have the following:
Armor Class: 36 (Flatfooted: 32, touch: 19)
Saves: Fort +18, Ref +16, Will: +26
BAB: +14, Ranged Touch: +24
Freedom of Movement, Energy Resistance (all) 15, Regeneration, Sustenance/Greater Sustenance, Permanent Trueseeing, Endure Elements, most manufactured weapons used against her shatter on contact (Vow of Peace), calming aura, damage reduction 10/evil, greater spell focus (enchantment) + spell penetration on spells with verbal components, creature type: Fey (fey transformation is a 10th level heartwarder bonus)

[Frosty]

To be honest, a simple Endure Elements spell would render exposure rules pointless. And yes, I dunno why I wrote Taylor. I meant to write Tayla, which still would've been wrong

[EvilElitest]

And yet you know it is.

Yes, yes it is all to true

Yeah, I hate it when people are creative in a way I'm to prudish and immature to understand or appreciate.

How...mature of you, nothing says your more mature than rude dismissal, i hope you and this strange double standard are happy together.
I never said the class was bad, simple that walking around in the nude would cause some problem


Didn't see endure elements, but people's reactions would be something to consider, but that is up for role playing to to dictate

By the by, what doctrine makes these guys and gals wish to walk around in the nude (regeneration and all that helps for protection but walking through the city streets could have problems), the fluff is a little vague, are they just extremely passionate worshipers of Sune who wish to reflect natural beauty or what?
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[nonsens]

Homebrew it; Vow of Greed
prerequisites: must be evil
Effect: Must absorb all it's loot so that nobody else can ever get to it!
exept: stuff you can keep with vow of poverty
bonus: sort of like vow of poverty, but change the exalted feats for something more evil.

Edit: alternative:
tithe to the dark gods
offer all you wealth in return for unholy power

maybe create a "dark pact" feat to create symmetry with VoP

But then you'd get so many items you're not naked anymore.
I think you could make it more "Vow of Destruction".
Instead of you giving stuff away, you destroy is so nobody gets it (+ bonus points for destroying holy items).
This keeps the style of not having any items.

If you had a 15 int, I'd even suggest Words of Creation, for pure style points.

Have another high-level mage cast wish on you, and have him wish you Int up.

[The_Snark]

Evil Vow of Poverty? It could work. I've actually done it, with an agreeable DM. The character held that items, and especially magic items, were a tool for the weak to try and outmatch the strong, and refused to use them.

I believe we ended up calling it Vow of Arrogance or Vow of Contempt. The only changes really necessary were to replace exalted feats with vile feats (if desired; not many of them fit), and change references to good and sacred with evil and profane.

Also, there's a sort of evil counterpart to the exalted Vow feats in Drow of the Underdark, with Unspeakable Vow as the prerequisite. None of them are terribly good, though.

[Thinker]

Yes, yes it is all to true


How...mature of you, nothing says your more mature than rude dismissal, i hope you and this strange double standard are happy together.

Luckily I'm happy with my double standards, hypocrisy, and level of maturity. I don't have to try to pander for others' approval or wish I were something I'm not.

[Talya]

but people's reactions would be something to consider, but that is up for role playing to to dictate

Generally up to the DM. Although for the most part their reactions would be to stare and drool (Fascinate effect.)

By the by, what doctrine makes these guys and gals wish to walk around in the nude? the fluff is a little vague, are they just extremely passionate worshipers of Sune who wish to reflect natural beauty or what?
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It was rather created humorously, but yes. Sune is the Goddess of beauty and passion, and such things are always holy and sacred to them.

but walking through the city streets could have problems

Yes! Opportunities for great amusement abound... (see below)

Special: To fullfill your vow, you must never willingly wear any item of clothing or armor that conceals your body. If you intentionally break your vow, you immediately and irrevocably lose the benefit of this feat. If you break your vow as a result of magical compulsion, or otherwise unintentionally (being forced into a straightjacket, for instance, a possible outcome of wandering city streets in the nude), you lose the benefit of this feat until you receive an atonement spell. Merely having a blanket thrown over you which you immediately attempt to remove will not cause this result.

[Roland St. Jude]

Woah, necropost...

Sheriff of Moddingham: Indeed. To all, please don't revive threads that are this old. Please see the Forum Rules re: Thread Necromancy.

Since Talya is still here and answering a question put to her, I was going to leave it open. But now it's all flamey. So I'm closing this thread.