New OOTS products from CafePress
New OOTS t-shirts, ornaments, mugs, bags, and more
Page 41 of 51 FirstFirst ... 163132333435363738394041424344454647484950 ... LastLast
Results 1,201 to 1,230 of 1503
  1. - Top - End - #1201
    Ettin in the Playground
     
    Telok's Avatar

    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    61.2° N, 149.9° W
    Gender
    Male

    Default Re: Dysfunctional Rules VIII: When General Trumps Specific

    Ah, ok. I was wrong. But are there any wizard spells that a wizard can't cast on himself? I mean, Planar Binding would be difficult but I'm sure you could work something out. I'm drawing a blank on spells a wizard is forced to target someone not himself.

  2. - Top - End - #1202
    Orc in the Playground
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location

    Default Re: Dysfunctional Rules VIII: When General Trumps Specific

    Quote Originally Posted by Telok View Post
    Ah, ok. I was wrong. But are there any wizard spells that a wizard can't cast on himself? I mean, Planar Binding would be difficult but I'm sure you could work something out. I'm drawing a blank on spells a wizard is forced to target someone not himself.
    A quick search turns up six candidates:

    Animal Growth

    Magic Jar

    Planar Binding

    Planar Binding, Greater

    Planar Binding, Lesser

    Stone to Flesh
    Quote Originally Posted by Newtkeeper View Post
    Dude, we're geeks. Overanalysis is our job.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tingel View Post
    You are funny, ideasmith.
    Quote Originally Posted by Vadskye View Post
    I really like the way the Awareness school came about. I created a Detection subschool, which you reinterpreted into a conceptually distinct Awareness subschool. Then I misinterpreted what you meant and created yet another conceptually (slightly) distinct Awareness subschool. Teamwork!
    My Extended Signature

  3. - Top - End - #1203
    Titan in the Playground
     
    Inevitability's Avatar

    Join Date
    Feb 2014
    Location
    Arcadia
    Gender
    Intersex

    Default Re: Dysfunctional Rules VIII: When General Trumps Specific

    A dysfunction that doesn't seem to have been listed yet: the description of Stone to Flesh says it can be used to turn a stone golem into a flesh golem. However, its target line seems to prohibit targeting a stone golem, unless you assume said monster occupies an area with a volume of 30 cubic feet.
    Creator of the LA-assignment thread.

    Come join the new Junkyard Wars and build with SLAs and a breath weapon!

    Interested in judging a build competition on the 3.5 forums but not sure where to begin? Check out the judging handbook!

    Extended signature!

  4. - Top - End - #1204
    Bugbear in the Playground
     
    BardGuy

    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Gender
    Male

    Default Re: Dysfunctional Rules VIII: When General Trumps Specific

    Quote Originally Posted by Dire_Stirge View Post
    A dysfunction that doesn't seem to have been listed yet: the description of Stone to Flesh says it can be used to turn a stone golem into a flesh golem. However, its target line seems to prohibit targeting a stone golem, unless you assume said monster occupies an area with a volume of 30 cubic feet.
    And yet, the Stone Golem entry simply says that stone to flesh temporarily negates the stone golem's damage reduction and magic immunity.
    See my Extended Signature for my list of silly shenanigans.

    Anyone is welcome to use or critique my 3.5 Fighter homebrew: The Vanguard.

    I am a Dungeon Master for Hire that creates custom content for people and programs d20 content for the HeroLab character system. Please donate to my Patreon and visit the HeroLab forums.

  5. - Top - End - #1205
    Ettin in the Playground
     
    The Viscount's Avatar

    Join Date
    Dec 2012

    Default Re: Dysfunctional Rules VIII: When General Trumps Specific

    I had always understood that as you require 2 castings of stone to flesh. One negates the magic immunity, the second turns it to flesh.
    Kolyarut Avatar by Potatocubed.
    Quote Originally Posted by willpell View Post
    Only playing Tier 1s is like only eating in five-star restaurants [...] sometimes I just want a cheeseburger and some frogurt. Why limit yourself?
    Awards

  6. - Top - End - #1206
    Firbolg in the Playground
     
    Bohandas's Avatar

    Join Date
    Feb 2016

    Default Re: Dysfunctional Rules VIII: When General Trumps Specific

    Quote Originally Posted by Jormengand View Post
    Forgive me, but does "Sonic" not mean "Of, pertaining to, or at the speed of, sound"? Sure, it's not a spell with the [Sonic] tag, but it is a spell pertaining to sound.
    I think it just means "pertaining to sound" in general
    "If you want to understand biology don't think about vibrant throbbing gels and oozes, think about information technology" -Richard Dawkins

    Omegaupdate Forum

    WoTC Forums Archive + Indexing Projext

    PostImage, a free and sensible alternative to Photobucket

    Temple+ Modding Project for Atari's Temple of Elemental Evil

    Morrus' RPG Forum (EN World v2)

  7. - Top - End - #1207
    Troll in the Playground
     
    Debatra's Avatar

    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    Kaeda
    Gender
    Male

    Default Re: Dysfunctional Rules VIII: When General Trumps Specific

    Quote Originally Posted by Dire_Stirge View Post
    A dysfunction that doesn't seem to have been listed yet: the description of Stone to Flesh says it can be used to turn a stone golem into a flesh golem. However, its target line seems to prohibit targeting a stone golem, unless you assume said monster occupies an area with a volume of 30 cubic feet.
    It has to "fit within" that area, not occupy the entire space.
    Kaedanis Pyran, tai faernae.

    The LA Assignment Threads: Attempting to Make Monsters Playable Since 2016

    My Homebrewer's Extended Signature
    Spoiler: Quotes
    Show
    Quote Originally Posted by Lycan 01 View Post
    Roland just endorsed a crack pairing?


    Did... did we break the universe?
    Quote Originally Posted by SassyQuatch View Post
    It is a major flaw in the game. Destroy a moon? Sure. Talk to somebody a hundred miles away, that's going to be difficult.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rizban View Post
    Realistically speaking... D&D style magic doesn't exist, so... let's ignore reality.

  8. - Top - End - #1208
    Ettin in the Playground
     
    Telok's Avatar

    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    61.2° N, 149.9° W
    Gender
    Male

    Default Re: Dysfunctional Rules VIII: When General Trumps Specific

    Animal Growth: Shapechange can change type so it's possible to make this work, but normally it will be impossible due to they creature type restriction.

    Magic Jar: The target here is 'one creature', but the text is written from the point of the caster targeting himself. There appears to be no restriction then on casting Magic Jar on another person and having them receive the benefits of the spell. Specifically here the target is not the victim of the spell but the person who is initally transferred to the gem and can then possess victims.

    Planar Binding (all): These are again type limits with an additional hit die limit. Nothing prevents a caster with the outsider or elemental type from binding themselves. Although a caster of 6 or fewer hit dice will need to use a scroll or other magic item for Lesser Planar Binding.

    Stone to Flesh: I think this is the winner but only because being petrified is rather difficult to get around.

    I think it's probably pretty possible for almost every spell a wizard can cast to be cast by the wizard on himself (Stone to Flesh may be the best exception).

  9. - Top - End - #1209
    Titan in the Playground
     
    Troacctid's Avatar

    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Location
    California
    Gender
    Female

    Default Re: Dysfunctional Rules VIII: When General Trumps Specific

    Quote Originally Posted by Debatra View Post
    It has to "fit within" that area, not occupy the entire space.
    Stone golems are large-size, so they don't fit within that area.

  10. - Top - End - #1210
    Ettin in the Playground
     
    Malimar's Avatar

    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Location
    a nice pond

    Default Re: Dysfunctional Rules VIII: When General Trumps Specific

    Quote Originally Posted by Telok View Post
    I think it's probably pretty possible for almost every spell a wizard can cast to be cast by the wizard on himself (Stone to Flesh may be the best exception).
    There must be at least one spell somewhere with "object" and not "creature" in the target line. I can't think of any (shatter occurred to me, but the wizard could be a crystalline creature), but I bet they exist.

  11. - Top - End - #1211
    Ogre in the Playground
    Join Date
    Nov 2008

    Default Re: Dysfunctional Rules VIII: When General Trumps Specific

    Teleport Object can't affect creatures and also explicitly "teleports an object, not you."
    Last edited by Bucky; 2016-08-21 at 09:26 PM.
    The gnomes once had many mines, but now they have gnome ore.

  12. - Top - End - #1212
    Ettin in the Playground
     
    Telok's Avatar

    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    61.2° N, 149.9° W
    Gender
    Male

    Default Re: Dysfunctional Rules VIII: When General Trumps Specific

    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    Teleport Object can't affect creatures and also explicitly "teleports an object, not you."
    Shrink Item might qualify too. That shrunken canoe was bloody useful today.

  13. - Top - End - #1213
    Orc in the Playground
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location

    Default Re: Dysfunctional Rules VIII: When General Trumps Specific

    I was making a list of “spells a wizard is forced to target someone not himself”. I was also assuming that an object does not count as “someone”. If I had been including ‘object-only’ wizard spells, I might have included:

    Animate Dead
    Animate Rope
    Arcane Lock
    Continual Flame
    Create Undead
    Darkness
    Daylight
    Explosive Runes
    Fabricate
    Fire Trap
    Flame Arrow
    Gentle Repose
    Grease
    Hold Portal
    Identify
    Illusory Script
    Instant Summons
    Keen Edge
    Knock
    Light
    Mage Hand
    Magic Aura
    Magic Weapon
    Magic Weapon, Greater
    Mending
    Obscure Object
    Open/Close
    Phantom Trap
    Rope Trick
    Secret Chest
    Secret Page
    Shrink Item
    Soul Bind
    Stone Shape
    Teleport Object
    Quote Originally Posted by Newtkeeper View Post
    Dude, we're geeks. Overanalysis is our job.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tingel View Post
    You are funny, ideasmith.
    Quote Originally Posted by Vadskye View Post
    I really like the way the Awareness school came about. I created a Detection subschool, which you reinterpreted into a conceptually distinct Awareness subschool. Then I misinterpreted what you meant and created yet another conceptually (slightly) distinct Awareness subschool. Teamwork!
    My Extended Signature

  14. - Top - End - #1214
    Ettin in the Playground
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    Tula, Russia
    Gender
    Male

    Default Re: Dysfunctional Rules VIII: When General Trumps Specific

    Dragon #304, "Prestige Races" article:
    Ember Creature [Flame]

    Ember creatures have discovered how to fan the flame within them; they have learned how to draw upon its inherent power in order to reacts with speed and precision. An ember creature's skin becomes opaque, dark, and cracked, with the vague hints of a smoldering fire lying deep beneath its surface. All of the hair on an ember creature's body falls away or vanishes in a puff of acrid smoke, and its eyes darken, leaving only two tiny pinpricks of gleaming light.

    Prerequisites: Kindled Creature, Sculpt Self feat.

    Benefit: The creature gains fire resistance 10 and the ability to cast produce flame at will as a 3rd-level sorcerer.
    Produce Flame isn't a Sorcerer's spell

  15. - Top - End - #1215
    Ettin in the Playground
     
    Forrestfire's Avatar

    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Gender
    Male2Female

    Default Re: Dysfunctional Rules VIII: When General Trumps Specific

    While that is true, sorcerers can use "unusual spells that the sorcerer has gained some understanding of by study." The two messy rules cancel each other out to get a functional one.

  16. - Top - End - #1216
    Ettin in the Playground
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    Tula, Russia
    Gender
    Male

    Default Re: Dysfunctional Rules VIII: When General Trumps Specific

    Quote Originally Posted by Forrestfire View Post
    While that is true, sorcerers can use "unusual spells that the sorcerer has gained some understanding of by study." The two messy rules cancel each other out to get a functional one.
    But which level will be sorcerer's produce flame?
    2nd?
    1st?
    Maybe, 0th?
    Last edited by ShurikVch; 2016-08-25 at 07:14 AM.

  17. - Top - End - #1217
    Titan in the Playground
     
    Inevitability's Avatar

    Join Date
    Feb 2014
    Location
    Arcadia
    Gender
    Intersex

    Default Re: Dysfunctional Rules VIII: When General Trumps Specific

    Quote Originally Posted by Forrestfire View Post
    While that is true, sorcerers can use "unusual spells that the sorcerer has gained some understanding of by study." The two messy rules cancel each other out to get a functional one.
    When two dysfunctions touch each other, they both transform into pure energy. This is called the law of inversed RAW-functionality.
    Creator of the LA-assignment thread.

    Come join the new Junkyard Wars and build with SLAs and a breath weapon!

    Interested in judging a build competition on the 3.5 forums but not sure where to begin? Check out the judging handbook!

    Extended signature!

  18. - Top - End - #1218
    Colossus in the Playground
     
    Flickerdart's Avatar

    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    NYC
    Gender
    Male

    Default Re: Dysfunctional Rules VIII: When General Trumps Specific

    Quote Originally Posted by ShurikVch View Post
    But which level will be sorcerer's produce flame?
    2nd?
    1st?
    Maybe, 0th?
    It can't be 2nd, because a 3rd level sorcerer would not be able to cast it. So it must be 1st or 0th. Since it's 0th for nobody, but 1st for druids, we can assume the same is true of sorcerers.
    Quote Originally Posted by Inevitability View Post
    Greater
    \ˈgrā-tər \
    comparative adjective
    1. Describing basically the exact same monster but with twice the RHD.
    Quote Originally Posted by Artanis View Post
    I'm going to be honest, "the Welsh became a Great Power and conquered Germany" is almost exactly the opposite of the explanation I was expecting

  19. - Top - End - #1219
    Titan in the Playground
     
    Inevitability's Avatar

    Join Date
    Feb 2014
    Location
    Arcadia
    Gender
    Intersex

    Default Re: Dysfunctional Rules VIII: When General Trumps Specific

    Quote Originally Posted by Flickerdart View Post
    It can't be 2nd, because a 3rd level sorcerer would not be able to cast it. So it must be 1st or 0th. Since it's 0th for nobody, but 1st for druids, we can assume the same is true of sorcerers.
    A 3rd-level sorcerer would be able to cast it with Precocious Apprentice, though.
    Creator of the LA-assignment thread.

    Come join the new Junkyard Wars and build with SLAs and a breath weapon!

    Interested in judging a build competition on the 3.5 forums but not sure where to begin? Check out the judging handbook!

    Extended signature!

  20. - Top - End - #1220
    Colossus in the Playground
     
    Flickerdart's Avatar

    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    NYC
    Gender
    Male

    Default Re: Dysfunctional Rules VIII: When General Trumps Specific

    Quote Originally Posted by Dire_Stirge View Post
    A 3rd-level sorcerer would be able to cast it with Precocious Apprentice, though.
    Sure, but it doesn't say "cast produce flame as a 3rd level sorcerer with Precocious Apprentice." Or a 3rd level kobold sorcerer with Greater Draconic Rite of Passage or Versatile Spellcaster or whatever.
    Quote Originally Posted by Inevitability View Post
    Greater
    \ˈgrā-tər \
    comparative adjective
    1. Describing basically the exact same monster but with twice the RHD.
    Quote Originally Posted by Artanis View Post
    I'm going to be honest, "the Welsh became a Great Power and conquered Germany" is almost exactly the opposite of the explanation I was expecting

  21. - Top - End - #1221
    Titan in the Playground
     
    Inevitability's Avatar

    Join Date
    Feb 2014
    Location
    Arcadia
    Gender
    Intersex

    Default Re: Dysfunctional Rules VIII: When General Trumps Specific

    Perhaps not dysfunctional, but quite weird. A chaos beast can use its corporeal instability ability on another chaos beast, which writhes in pain and crawls around blindly for a minute or so, then dies and becomes... a chaos beast.
    Creator of the LA-assignment thread.

    Come join the new Junkyard Wars and build with SLAs and a breath weapon!

    Interested in judging a build competition on the 3.5 forums but not sure where to begin? Check out the judging handbook!

    Extended signature!

  22. - Top - End - #1222
    Ogre in the Playground
     
    OrcBarbarianGirl

    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    Why am I here?

    Default Re: Dysfunctional Rules VIII: When General Trumps Specific

    Quote Originally Posted by Dire_Stirge View Post
    Perhaps not dysfunctional, but quite weird. A chaos beast can use its corporeal instability ability on another chaos beast, which writhes in pain and crawls around blindly for a minute or so, then dies and becomes... a chaos beast.
    I thought chaos beasts were supposed to weird and miserable all the time and this perfectly explains why they are always solitary. This is another one of those weird weirdness inversions that ends up not weird.
    Quote Originally Posted by No brains View Post
    But as we've agreed, sometimes the real power was the friends we made along the way, including the DM. I wish I could go on more articulate rants about how I'm grateful for DMs putting in the effort on a hard job even when it isn't perfect.

  23. - Top - End - #1223
    Titan in the Playground
     
    Troacctid's Avatar

    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Location
    California
    Gender
    Female

    Default Re: Dysfunctional Rules VIII: When General Trumps Specific

    Chaos beasts are protected from other chaos beasts' corporeal instability by their immunity to transformation. No dysfunction.

  24. - Top - End - #1224
    Titan in the Playground
     
    Inevitability's Avatar

    Join Date
    Feb 2014
    Location
    Arcadia
    Gender
    Intersex

    Default Re: Dysfunctional Rules VIII: When General Trumps Specific

    Quote Originally Posted by Troacctid View Post
    Chaos beasts are protected from other chaos beasts' corporeal instability by their immunity to transformation. No dysfunction.
    Immunity to transformation takes a free action to use, though. If we render a chaos beast unconscious for a minute (there's poison that does this) it can't revert to its original shape while it melts away.
    Last edited by Inevitability; 2016-08-28 at 01:54 AM.
    Creator of the LA-assignment thread.

    Come join the new Junkyard Wars and build with SLAs and a breath weapon!

    Interested in judging a build competition on the 3.5 forums but not sure where to begin? Check out the judging handbook!

    Extended signature!

  25. - Top - End - #1225
    Ettin in the Playground
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    Tula, Russia
    Gender
    Male

    Default Re: Dysfunctional Rules VIII: When General Trumps Specific

    Certain Special Attacks poorly interact with Size change of base creature

    Swallow Whole
    While general rules for this SA sound sensible enough,
    Unless otherwise noted, the opponent can be up to one size category smaller than the swallowing creature.
    some monsters have RAW which list explicit size categories - such as Legendary Shark:
    A legendary shark can swallow a Large or smaller creature
    Sure, grapple rules - in general - prevent swallowing creatures of much bigger sizes, but it can be countered in some cases: for example, Half-Ogre Anthropomorphic Legendary Shark with Hulking Brute feat (Dragonlance Campaign Setting) will be able (even if Minute Form shrunk it down to Fine size) to grapple and Swallow Whole any "Large or smaller creature"

    And it gets even better
    Some Vermins (such as Hoard Scarab, Worm of Kyuss, or Ember Spawn) are able to burrow into other creatures
    This ability is completely independent of Size category - even "as is" they already able to burrow into creature of the same size category as they are
    But what if this vermin somehow got bigger - say, because of application of Titanic (or Kaiju) template?
    They still able, by RAW, to burrow into creature of any size, and stay inside until either they want out or host is dead
    (Also, in case of Symbiotic Creature template, Vermin guest will grant it's burrow SA to the host - even if the host is dinosaur)

  26. - Top - End - #1226
    Titan in the Playground
     
    Inevitability's Avatar

    Join Date
    Feb 2014
    Location
    Arcadia
    Gender
    Intersex

    Default Re: Dysfunctional Rules VIII: When General Trumps Specific

    Quote Originally Posted by ShurikVch View Post
    (Also, in case of Symbiotic Creature template, Vermin guest will grant it's burrow SA to the host - even if the host is dinosaur)
    Firstly, a dinosaur typically can't be a host because it only has 2 intelligence.

    That said: a similar case is the Giant Leech. It's undetectable if attacking from water a few feet deep, and its giant host shares the ability with it.
    Creator of the LA-assignment thread.

    Come join the new Junkyard Wars and build with SLAs and a breath weapon!

    Interested in judging a build competition on the 3.5 forums but not sure where to begin? Check out the judging handbook!

    Extended signature!

  27. - Top - End - #1227
    Ettin in the Playground
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    Tula, Russia
    Gender
    Male

    Default Re: Dysfunctional Rules VIII: When General Trumps Specific

    Quote Originally Posted by Dire_Stirge View Post
    Firstly, a dinosaur typically can't be a host because it only has 2 intelligence.
    Since when being a host have anything to do with intelligence?
    Symbiotic Creature template is legal for animals (who are all Int 2 or 1) and Vermin (mindless)

  28. - Top - End - #1228
    Titan in the Playground
     
    Inevitability's Avatar

    Join Date
    Feb 2014
    Location
    Arcadia
    Gender
    Intersex

    Default Re: Dysfunctional Rules VIII: When General Trumps Specific

    Quote Originally Posted by ShurikVch View Post
    Since when being a host have anything to do with intelligence?
    Symbiotic Creature template is legal for animals (who are all Int 2 or 1) and Vermin (mindless)
    Could've sworn it said something along those lines, huh.
    Creator of the LA-assignment thread.

    Come join the new Junkyard Wars and build with SLAs and a breath weapon!

    Interested in judging a build competition on the 3.5 forums but not sure where to begin? Check out the judging handbook!

    Extended signature!

  29. - Top - End - #1229
    Ogre in the Playground
     
    OrcBarbarianGirl

    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    Why am I here?

    Default Re: Dysfunctional Rules VIII: When General Trumps Specific

    Maybe this isn't a true dysfunction, but it's weird to me that of all apparel, only full plate needs to be resized to fit its wearer. This would still apply if you captured the armor of your identical twin. This would not apply if your body was transformed (but maybe if your type changed).
    Quote Originally Posted by No brains View Post
    But as we've agreed, sometimes the real power was the friends we made along the way, including the DM. I wish I could go on more articulate rants about how I'm grateful for DMs putting in the effort on a hard job even when it isn't perfect.

  30. - Top - End - #1230
    Ettin in the Playground
     
    The Viscount's Avatar

    Join Date
    Dec 2012

    Default Re: Dysfunctional Rules VIII: When General Trumps Specific

    Here's a basic one I should have caught sooner.

    Soulknife gains Weapon Focus (Mind Blade) as a bonus feat at level 1. They gain Greater Weapon Focus (Mind Blade) at level 9.
    Unfortunately at level 1 the Soulknife lacks a +1 BA, so cannot gain the benefit until level 2. They can't gain the benefit of Great Weapon Focus at all, since they lack the ability to count as a fighter.

    Less dysfunctionally but still annoyingly, Soulknife gains Speed of Thought as a bonus feat at level 6, which requires Wis 13. Soulknife has no reason to have Wis 13.
    Kolyarut Avatar by Potatocubed.
    Quote Originally Posted by willpell View Post
    Only playing Tier 1s is like only eating in five-star restaurants [...] sometimes I just want a cheeseburger and some frogurt. Why limit yourself?
    Awards

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •