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    I feel like Big Boss could take him in general, but AJ has an ace in the hole with his whole make everything within oh so many meters of me into paste weapon.
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    Assuming Jensen has all his upgrades and gear I'd say he's at least an even match for most of the Metal Gear cyborg ninja baddasses, what with being a cyborg ninja badass himself.
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    Assuming Jensen has all his upgrades and gear I'd say he's at least an even match for most of the Metal Gear cyborg ninja baddasses, what with being a cyborg ninja badass himself.
    Nah. Metal Gear Cyborg Ninjas jump on missile barrages, swing their swords dozens of times a second, casually deflect machine gun fire and throw around building-sized robots without breaking a sweat. They're in a different league of cyborg to Jensen, who would be much more suited to fighting MGS4 Solid Snake or Big Boss.

    He could probably take on Grey Fox, but any other major MG cyborg would tear him to shreds.
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    Tracer wins! No surprise there. When Tracer's UI elements started showing up, it really wasn't much of a guess who'd win at that point. I wonder if this battle was made in SFM, the Scout is obviously available there, and I wouldn't be surprised if someone made Tracer available for it, too.

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    Sure, you're Ken! Hello Ken!

    I wonder who he'll be fighting. With Mortal Kombat and Street Fighter having had a match recently, I don't think it's going to be any of those. I mean, Sub Zero could have a go, but... who else could we put against Ken Masters?

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    Credit where its due, it was a closer fight than I expected. Though the way the fight scene went kind of strains suspension of belief that Scout didn't just shoot her with the Scattergun when her Chronal Accelator went on the fritz, but whatever. :P

    Don't think it was SFM, the lightning's much... harsher. TBH I think it would have looked nicer in SFM, I know Tracer's got some really good renders there and it would have made the actual battlefield look a little nicer.

    ...Geez, I'm sounding really negative today. Seriously, it was a pretty decent episode.


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    Ken, huh. If I had to guess, they'll pit up against another Shotoclone. Not sure who, maybe someone from King of Fighters or Tekken. Can't see it being someone from MK or Killer Instinct. If they use Jago it'll likely be against Ryu again, what with the whole "Shadow Jago" thing.
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    Ken, huh. If I had to guess, they'll pit up against another Shotoclone. Not sure who, maybe someone from King of Fighters or Tekken. Can't see it being someone from MK or Killer Instinct. If they use Jago it'll likely be against Ryu again, what with the whole "Shadow Jago" thing.
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    Hmm, what about Terry Bogard? An all American brawl there, and since both Street Fighter and King of Fighters have a new game out this year, it would be topical to do a versus. I mean, sure, SNK vs. Capcom is already a game series, so you could to Ken vs. Terry ingame right now, but that hasn't really stopped them before.

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    Im not too surprised, tracer just had too many advantages in the fight. Scout just didnt have enough speed to work with. His marathon speed is top sprinter speed which is good and all, but not enough compared to someone who can teleport. Also, I think they overexagerated tracers reaction time a bit. She saw the sniper taking aim and reacted. Its not like the bullet was already leaving the barrel when she noticed, so her time to react was increased noticeably over what they gave her. Still quick though.
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    Eh, was a fun enough fight. Too bad I again didn't care much for either.


    Not sure what we will get next week. Some fighting game character is possible. But I feel more like we will get some rival theme, or possibly both. Then again, maybe just some famous martial artist? Someone else named Ken? Dunno.
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    How bad is it that i was hoping the looser would still be "alive" and the winner would just give the looser their number for a future date or something?

    suppose Scout can just respawn? *shrugs
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    Based on what they presented (two games I haven't played and know bugger all about) the outcome was correct and pretty obvious. Pretty enough but I didn't really care one way or the other.

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    Don't really know enough (or anything, really) about SF to have any valid opinions on such a match but a brief internet search shows a lot of people feel such a match would be a no-brainer for musou tensei Ken.

    Another fighting game character seems a more reasonable choice, however.

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    Well I personally disagree, Tracer's reaction times aren't as fast as suggested and Scout' Arsenal gives him a few ways to make the kill, so if I was deciding the winner I'd say it depends based on the terrain. Any battlefield that gives Scout the ability to stun Tracer with his balls and then hit her with the Force-a-Nature (spelling) would let him win, otherwise I agree that Tracer would.


    Also, Tracer has a horrible accent. Can we please have a British video game character that doesn't speak in RP or Cockney? (most London or Home Counties accents should be recognisable as British, as well as a handful of Northern accents)

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    I'm not sure here. What's Ken's relationship with Ryu like? If it's rivals then I'm putting my money on that being our 'theme'.
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    Im hoping for a second fiddle theme. In street fighter, at least the ones I played, both ken and ryu had the same move set more or less. But everyone seemed to pick ryu. (Its been a lot of years since street fighter 2, so I dont recall if he had an actual advantage) So what we need to do is find a fighting character who is a lot like a far more popular character in his universe but always plays second fiddle. Anyone have any ideas?
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    Luigi?

    Maybe Sub Zero vs Ken given all the Scorpion vs Ryu debates but I doubt it. I think they already did a Street Fighter vs Final Fight and a character form Killer Instinct has already appeared too so maybe the character will be Iori Yagami or Kyo Kusanagi from King of Fighters depending on if they want to match personalities or good clone vs evil clone.

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    Im hoping for a second fiddle theme. In street fighter, at least the ones I played, both ken and ryu had the same move set more or less. But everyone seemed to pick ryu. (Its been a lot of years since street fighter 2, so I dont recall if he had an actual advantage) So what we need to do is find a fighting character who is a lot like a far more popular character in his universe but always plays second fiddle. Anyone have any ideas?
    Luigi? But he's already been done. Also not really a fighting character.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Traab View Post
    Im hoping for a second fiddle theme. In street fighter, at least the ones I played, both ken and ryu had the same move set more or less. But everyone seemed to pick ryu. (Its been a lot of years since street fighter 2, so I dont recall if he had an actual advantage) So what we need to do is find a fighting character who is a lot like a far more popular character in his universe but always plays second fiddle. Anyone have any ideas?
    Paul Phoenix from Tekken? He used to be plot relevant. He even won the King of Iron Fist Tournament in Tekken 3... and then left before the true final boss showed up, meaning Jin got credited with the win instead. And since then, he's a joke character.

    I could also see Kazuya, Jin, or Hwoarang from Tekken be possible candidates.

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    Not a huge shocker. Tracer accelerates time and relies on that edge to dodge enemies and also react incredibly quickly to them, Scout has a bunch of weapons and runs and jumps. It was pretty stacked in Tracer's favor from the get-go.

    It was kinda funny seeing the Heroes of the Storm clips in the Tracer research side. Like, hello there, Valla, Uther, and Xul.
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    Well it's Ken vs Terry have to say it's what I expected as that rivalry has been going on for almost 20 years now. Though Terry has this in the bag so looks like another SFcharacter is gonna bite the dust.

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    How bad is it that i was hoping the looser would still be "alive" and the winner would just give the looser their number for a future date or something?

    suppose Scout can just respawn? *shrugs
    That's honestly a thing I dislike about Death Battle. I know it is in the name and all, but the fact that the battles are always to the actual death. It's one of the reasons I like OMM more as well. Ultimately, DB could perhaps benefit from not forcing the kill, unless there's a huge gap between "clearly being able to kill" and "able to kill".

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    That's honestly a thing I dislike about Death Battle. I know it is in the name and all, but the fact that the battles are always to the actual death. It's one of the reasons I like OMM more as well. Ultimately, DB could perhaps benefit from not forcing the kill, unless there's a huge gap between "clearly being able to kill" and "able to kill".
    Yeah, functionally 'unable to fight' and 'dead' are the same here, so if an opponent can inflict the former state there's no need to force the latter, and at least in some cases characters should really be able to surrender if it fits their personality. Forcing the skill severely penalises a few characters as well.

    I'm actually reminded of the Superman versus Saitama One Minute Melee. Not that their result is in any way definitive*, but it fit the narrative they had going and it ended once one side had no chance of winning. Actually Death Battle could really stand to do more with their narrative and the character's personalities, it would make fights a lot more entertaining.

    Any other similar shows I should check out? Bare in mind that I'd prefer sprite battles over poor 3D animation (although I may check out this live action one at some point).

    * We're talking about two characters with upper limits of 'undefined'.
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    I just watched the one punch fight and thought it was a little silly but amusing anyways. The ending honestly felt to me like, "Ok, this could take awhile, lets just come up with an excuse to stop the fight." Also, I loved the comment caped baldy had for natasha.
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    I always turn death battle off once it's clear that the fight is over and we're moving into graphic murder porn territory. Thankfully, almost all of their fights follow the exact same formula so it's an easy thing to predict.

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    I think Superman would win and for much the reason that they say in the video.

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    I just watched the one punch fight and thought it was a little silly but amusing anyways. The ending honestly felt to me like, "Ok, this could take awhile, lets just come up with an excuse to stop the fight." Also, I loved the comment caped baldy had for natasha.
    Yep, I think it also showed a good understanding of both character's personalities and powers, while just keeping it silly.

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    I think Superman would win and for much the reason that they say in the video.
    If talking about the Superman versus Saitama fight, and the reason from the Death Battle Superman versus Goku video, then it's actually not clear cut. Yes, Superman's power is as strong as it needs to be, but Saitama's power is officially 'strong enough to defeat any monster in one punch', and we know that the only thing he has to use actually effort to destroy is a hyper-regenerating being strong enough to destroy planets.

    Saitama's also performed a feat I'm not certain Superman has, and that's punching hard enough to split the sky (episode 12 of the anime or volume 7 of the manga), while Superman has performed several feats that Saitama hasn't. Saitama might also be faster than Superman is, while being less indestructible (Superman doesn't dodge edged attack anywhere near as much as Saitama does). What we know is that both have theoretically infinite strength, both are effectively immune to blunt damage (and Superman to most damage), and both have moved faster than the speed of light. While Superman can fly and breath in space, Saitama's speed and strength can in theory allow him to keep Superman in the atmosphere. Saitama's also shown enough resistance to fire that Heat Vision may not even phase him.
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    Saitama's power is officially 'strong enough to defeat any monster in one punch', and we know that the only thing he has to use actually effort to destroy is a hyper-regenerating being strong enough to destroy planets.
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    Yeah, but that won't matter to a guy who is also as strong as the plot needs him to be. Admittedly, as far as we know Saitama can't fly, so if you blow up Earth I guess he is stuck in space...
    I thought the video was fun, sadly it had no voice over but oh well.
    OMM are mostly nice but they kind of lack character...

    And Ken got an opponent... and again I don't really care about the match
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    Yeah, but that won't matter to a guy who is also as strong as the plot needs him to be. Admittedly, as far as we know Saitama can't fly, so if you blow up Earth I guess he is stuck in space...
    I thought the video was fun, sadly it had no voice over but oh well.
    OMM are mostly nice but they kind of lack character...

    And Ken got an opponent... and again I don't really care about the match
    Honestly I'd say they have more character then Death Battle does, so I don't know what you mean by that.
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    If talking about the Superman versus Saitama fight, and the reason from the Death Battle Superman versus Goku video, then it's actually not clear cut. Yes, Superman's power is as strong as it needs to be, but Saitama's power is officially 'strong enough to defeat any monster in one punch', and we know that the only thing he has to use actually effort to destroy is a hyper-regenerating being strong enough to destroy planets.
    and yeah to be frank? Boros regeneration powers are HAX. as in, Cell or Majin Buu levels of hax, maybe even more. Because the punch that made him regenerate, made him go flying apart- then he just smashed himself back together instantly. Cell or Majin Buu's regeneration while near the same level, isn't THAT instant. combined with Boros super form and energy attacks, and he was very much a DBZ super villain parody, so I'm taking that as evidence that Saitama is perfectly capable of taking on DBZ levels of power.

    In comparison, the Z-Fighters encounter trouble every time the villain has some extra defensive power to make sure the villain keeps surviving past one or two fights:
    -Piccolo could regenerate when he was a villain
    -Freeza's race is known for breathing in space AND surviving despite ridiculous amounts of dismemberment.
    -Cell is basically a gene hax of Piccolo and Freeza above combined with Saiyan DNA so that he can regenerate from any cell without his head being a weak point, AND getting stronger from regenerating near death.
    -Majin Buu is basically this weird demon made of goo who can split himself and put himself back together again without any pain.
    -Broly has no-sell powers up the wazoo.

    the only villain to my recall that doesn't specifically give them trouble because of something like that is Beerus. but even then, his lithe agility and thin frame plus great power and combat training, he is probably master of the art of Dodge. and of course, being the God of Destruction, the best defense is a great offense.
    But its pretty clear that in a universe of planetary destruction attacks, a some good form of defense or survival is something that makes you stand out from the crowd. Saitama just plain ignores that and wins in three hits anyways.
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    Considering superman just has to hurl saitama in space then go get dinner, I have to say the winner is fairly obvious. Maybe not in a straight up slugging match, especially since the level of power needed to defeat each other would shatter the earth itself from the backlash, but in a true, "I HAVE to kill this guy!" style fight, yeah, superman would go for the space route to at least see if that helps him any. And it would. But then squirrel girl would show up and beat superman to death in the usual way and that would be the end of that.
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    Superman wouldn't be the first person to try ending the fight by tossing Saitama into space. Just sayin'.
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    Unless everyone's been lying to me and the next bunch of episodes are The Great Divide II, The Great Divide III, Return to the Great Divide, and Bride of the Great Divide, in which case I hate you all and I'm never touching Avatar again.

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    Default Re: Death Battle II - I don't THINK Gara got robbed I KNOW he did.

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    Superman wouldn't be the first person to try ending the fight by tossing Saitama into space. Just sayin'.
    Superman would be smart enough to aim away from any celestial bodies.
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    1. Describing basically the exact same monster but with twice the RHD.
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    I'm going to be honest, "the Welsh became a Great Power and conquered Germany" is almost exactly the opposite of the explanation I was expecting

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