Death Battle II - I don't THINK Gara got robbed I KNOW he did.

[Lord Raziere]

I would say Fairy Tail, One Piece, Bleach and Naruto are all on the same mountain-destroyer level really. anything else is just being overly specific as power scaling doesn't really matter beyond the most general level.

I'd give the win to Natsu. Ace is a limited character with limited powers. Natsu is a guy who eats the power of every major foe he takes out and gains it for his own use, as I remember him having lightning after defeating Laxus. and he can just eat all of Ace's flames

But then again I thought the Erza should've won the fight against Zorro because of her more flexible powers. and because I honestly think Erza is more powerful than Natsu, but I haven't gotten around to watching Fairy Tail since the tournament arc after the timeskip so whatever, what do I know? perhaps Natsu finally overtook her.

As well as the fact that I like Fairy Tail and don't really like One Piece, so what do I know? I'm biased.

[Forum Explorer]

I would say Fairy Tail, One Piece, Bleach and Naruto are all on the same mountain-destroyer level really. anything else is just being overly specific as power scaling doesn't really matter beyond the most general level.

I'd give the win to Natsu. Ace is a limited character with limited powers. Natsu is a guy who eats the power of every major foe he takes out and gains it for his own use, as I remember him having lightning after defeating Laxus. and he can just eat all of Ace's flames

But then again I thought the Erza should've won the fight against Zorro because of her more flexible powers. and because I honestly think Erza is more powerful than Natsu, but I haven't gotten around to watching Fairy Tail since the tournament arc after the timeskip so whatever, what do I know? perhaps Natsu finally overtook her.

As well as the fact that I like Fairy Tail and don't really like One Piece, so what do I know? I'm biased.

Normally I'd say any One Piece character is more powerful then the Fairy Tail equivalent. But this is literally playing straight to Natsu's strengths. This should be an easy win for him.

[Rynjin]

I dunno, I think one piece isnt really that far down the power scale, all things considered, yeah you have dragonball or gurren laggen levels of power, but the whole trio of naruto/bleach/one piece are at mountain destroying levels at least. Thats not exactly small potatoes. And while yeah, goku would yawn his way through that curb stomp, for regular joes, being able to casually destroy cities with a single attack is pretty godlike.

Remember that one character in Naruto literally created the moon. Sasuke and Naruto each hold half of that level of strength.

Its power scale is higher than people think.

[Kato]

Yeah, when Naruto got close to its finale power scales skyrocketed.. I can't talk about Bleach but in terms of raw destruction it's on another scale than OP and FT.

This fight IS ridiculously unfair towards Ace. We know Natsu can eat pretty much all kinds of fire, even if it takes sometimes to get to it (i.e. the fire God slayer guy). My guess is Ace because he still is quite powerful will get Natsu in a bind but then he will just figure out how to eat all of Ace' attacks.
Also, Natsu "recently" got another power boost, so...

[chainer1216]

Honestly this fight should end in a draw, Ace cant hurt Natsu, Natsu cant hurt Ace.

[ben-zayb]

Yeah, when Naruto got close to its finale power scales skyrocketed.. I can't talk about Bleach but in terms of raw destruction it's on another scale than OP and FT.

This fight IS ridiculously unfair towards Ace. We know Natsu can eat pretty much all kinds of fire, even if it takes sometimes to get to it (i.e. the fire God slayer guy). My guess is Ace because he still is quite powerful will get Natsu in a bind but then he will just figure out how to eat all of Ace' attacks.
Also, Natsu "recently" got another power boost, so...

While the Naruto end boss can create the moon, the Bleach end boss became supposedly capable of recreating all of existence.


I'm stoked to see another OP character in DB, but I agree that this is pretty much Magneto vs Ironman (wait, no) Popeye vs someone made of Spinach. It's entirely possible this is done to appease the FT fans who were disappointed with Erza vs Zoro. Or...DB pulls some BS to make them way more pissed than before.

[Yuki Akuma]

Ace is physically around as strong as Luffy. Just so everyone remembers. He can just punch dudes if his fire doesn't work.

Whether he's smart enough to do that is another question...

[Doorhandle]

Ace is physically around as strong as Luffy. Just so everyone remembers. He can just punch dudes if his fire doesn't work.

Whether he's smart enough to do that is another question...

I'd say he's smart enough: so the real question is, who would win in a boxing match? Him or Natsu?
If the analysis takes that route, this fight could be worth watching.

[Anteros]

It seems pretty pointless to have a battle between two people famous for using fire and have them not use fire.

[chainer1216]

well they'd start out fighting fire with fire until both realize it wasn't working and then they'd start throwing fists.

which ace would win, natsu is physically stronger but that doesn't mean much when you're fighting a semi-incorporeal creature.

what will probably happen is

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they'll find a picture of Nastu's fire melting rock or steel or something and say his fire is capable of being hot enough to burn Ace, which is something explicitly able to happen in universe.

[Rynjin]

There is no fire capable of burning Ace. The thing with Akainu was that Akainu's Devil Fruit "trumps" Ace's, with lava being more powerful than fire. Presumably a similar situation would occur with something like Aokiji vs that one harpy chick with the snow Logia that Zoro slice and diced, since ice trumps snow, or something.

[Anteros]

I'm no expert on One Piece, so if you guys think Ace would win I'm not going to argue. I will say that Natsu is no slouch in hand to hand either though. Especially if the fight starts with his opponent giving him fire to eat and power up on.

[Epinephrine_Syn]

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So, Space Power Rangers beats Earth Power Rangers. I barely knew either series, but once I realized that Voltron was "Power Rangers, but on a Universe-Wide scale", it kind of seemed obvious that they'd win. The specific "black hole" and "comet" feats were kind of overkill.

The fight was still fun to watch, though. Unpopular Opinion: I'm actually not disappointed that they went right to the megas. Let them put more time into that, and everyone kind of knows that's the only fight that matters, so there's literally 0 suspense until that happens.

[Devonix]

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So, Space Power Rangers beats Earth Power Rangers. I barely knew either series, but once I realized that Voltron was "Power Rangers, but on a Universe-Wide scale", it kind of seemed obvious that they'd win. The specific "black hole" and "comet" feats were kind of overkill.

The fight was still fun to watch, though. Unpopular Opinion: I'm actually not disappointed that they went right to the megas. Let them put more time into that, and everyone kind of knows that's the only fight that matters, so there's literally 0 suspense until that happens.

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There are ranger and Sentai teams that can fight on even keel with Voltron. It's just that the most popular and well known Megazord happens to also be one of the weakest

[Red Fel]

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There are ranger and Sentai teams that can fight on even keel with Voltron. It's just that the most popular and well known Megazord happens to also be one of the weakest

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To be fair, that's only true in the American series. In the original Super Sentai, most of the series occurred in semi-independent universes (except during crossover movies or Gokaiger), which makes it harder to compare Megazord with the others. But the Megazord was called "Daizyujin," and was the physical manifestation of a deity, and actually possessed its own awareness. That doesn't mean it's necessarily stronger than other combination mecha, but it is a god, so, you know, that's something to be considered.

But yeah, even by its own standards, the Megazord is its second-weakest combined state (after Beast Tank mode); it can still combine with the Dragonzord and Titanus to become even more powerful. By contrast, Voltron never actually did a combination beyond, you know, just Voltron - it was always its own strongest form.

[chainer1216]

I'm no expert on One Piece, so if you guys think Ace would win I'm not going to argue. I will say that Natsu is no slouch in hand to hand either though. Especially if the fight starts with his opponent giving him fire to eat and power up on.

Its not that Ace is strictly better hand to hand, its that he is semi-incorporeal. Think of him like a balloon, anything that would cause him to "pop" will just pass through him causing no harm.

[Traab]

Its not that Ace is strictly better hand to hand, its that he is semi-incorporeal. Think of him like a balloon, anything that would cause him to "pop" will just pass through him causing no harm.

Hmm, I wonder, if he is basically a human fire elemental, could he actually be devoured completely by natsu?

[chainer1216]

Hmm, I wonder, if he is basically a human fire elemental, could he actually be devoured completely by natsu?

Hard to say but i doubt it, Logia(elemental) Devil Fruits start out as only being incorporeal with active thought and later learn to do it instinctively. If Natsu tries to eat him he'd just go solid.

[Traab]

Hard to say but i doubt it, Logia(elemental) Devil Fruits start out as only being incorporeal with active thought and later learn to do it instinctively. If Natsu tries to eat him he'd just go solid.

Now I have this mental image of him shrinking bite by bite as every time he goes incorporeal to avoid a hit, natsu takes another chunk of fire. Eventually he is chopper sized and cursing a blue streak.

[Red Fel]

Hard to say but i doubt it, Logia(elemental) Devil Fruits start out as only being incorporeal with active thought and later learn to do it instinctively. If Natsu tries to eat him he'd just go solid.

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Still, very much this. If Natsu tries physical attacks, Ace can become fire and they'll pass right through him. If Natsu tries fire attacks, same. If Natsu tries to eat Ace, Ace can become physical - and thus not edible fire - and punch the nutjob gnawing on him. Punch him really very hard.

Ace can render himself immune to both the physical and magical elements of Natsu's arsenal. Natsu is only immune to Ace's fire-based weaponry. While Natsu is incredibly durable, easily on par with some of OP's stronger characters, he isn't immortal. Ace is pretty powerful with physical attacks, and is capable of using Haki if memory serves. Moreover, when one side is completely immune to the other's attacks, it's not a question of who will win, but how long it will take.

That said, in all likelihood, victory goes to Natsu, simply because - as series protagonist - he's been shown doing more incredibly over-the-top stuff. Ace is powerful, but he's not a member of the Straw Hats; he's a background character, so his screen time - and by extension his opportunity to perform amazing feats - is limited. Which means less data to use, which is what the DB crew ostensibly goes by.

[Forum Explorer]

Hard to say but i doubt it, Logia(elemental) Devil Fruits start out as only being incorporeal with active thought and later learn to do it instinctively. If Natsu tries to eat him he'd just go solid.

I'm pretty sure Natsu's eaten some pretty messed up things. I think going solid would result in Ace losing whatever Natsu's gotten a hold of.

[SKarious]

So, according to the Natsu summary on their channel, he already died at childhood. (And was resurrected as a demon). Isn't that an auto-disqualification?
Can't be in a Death Battle if you're dead alread, right?

[Kato]

So, according to the Natsu summary on their channel, he already died at childhood. (And was resurrected as a demon). Isn't that an auto-disqualification?
Can't be in a Death Battle if you're dead alread, right?

Of course you can, you... life-ist? They can't qualify all undead after all... they had Scorpion, Wolverine, loads of characters who died already


Also, that's a lot of manga spoilers in Natsu's intro. I sure hope their viewers are up to date on the manga.

[chainer1216]

I'm pretty sure Natsu's eaten some pretty messed up things. I think going solid would result in Ace losing whatever Natsu's gotten a hold of.

yeah, but Ace is Luffy's brother, and luffy has been known to use his choppers in battle, i'm pretty sure he's used to it.

Also, that's a lot of manga spoilers in Natsu's intro. I sure hope their viewers are up to date on the manga.

there sure are, i had stopped reading the manga just before all that was revealed, but it had been hinted at and foreshadowed enough that i had already been assuming it.

[Traab]

yeah, but Ace is Luffy's brother, and luffy has been known to use his choppers in battle, i'm pretty sure he's used to it.




there sure are, i had stopped reading the manga just before all that was revealed, but it had been hinted at and foreshadowed enough that i had already been assuming it.

I would imagine the general outlook on the spoilers is, those who are fans of natsu likely already know it, and those who have no clue about him wont care because they dont read the manga/watch the anime. Lets face it, technically speaking all the death battles have "spoilers" but most of the characters are fairly long established so its not a big deal telling us, for example, about wolverines past. Because by now pretty much anyone who gives a damn already knows it.

[Delicious Taffy]

Was Power Ranger set stop the Voltron Force were under the guise of thinking it might have were to been stronger Zords than Lions, except comets are stronger with pig monster versus as when however it weren't there all as much in the end. Good battle, though.

[McNum]

Spoiler: Ace vs Natsu

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Guy who eats fire beats guy made of fire. By punching him with lightning. Eh, okay then.

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And now we're ice themed. Sub-Zero vs. ice guy from Killer Instinct, I think? ...guy who controls ice vs. ice monster. Didn't we just have that fight in fire form?

[Traab]

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Guy who eats fire beats guy made of fire. By punching him with lightning. Eh, okay then.

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And now we're ice themed. Sub-Zero vs. ice guy from Killer Instinct, I think? ...guy who controls ice vs. ice monster. Didn't we just have that fight in fire form?

I wont hold this fight against them, it wasnt as lopsided as I was afraid they would make it, and the ending DOES make sense. As for the next battle,

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Nah, I dont think subzero controls all ice, just the ice he makes. I admit I havent really played since mk3 so things might have changed. Im thinking that unless he CAN control all ice, sub zero is in trouble as he has a fleshy body, and glacius doesnt.

[Mato]

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My initial thought is Glacius wins. He is a telepathic alien capable of adapting to any environment and he crash landed on Earth and became stranded as Ultratech further stole his stuff. Including his DNA which was injected into a human to create Cinder.

Subzero is actually a code name used by Bi-Han and his younger brother Kuai Liang, both are exceptionally powerful ninjas in the original story line but Bi-Han's real power is the later transformation into wraith Noob and Kuai's history was retconned into him becoming Tundra instead of being the medallion powered grandmaster of the Lin Kuei. Beating a creature immune to ice, ability to turn into a liquid, and set it's self on fire, is only something I'd consider if they used their original incarnations. In the new timeline, Glacius wins. Flawless victory.

[Kitten Champion]

Wait, Killer Instinct has a story now? Is this something that came with the XBone game?