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    Default Re: Making social skills class skills for everyone?

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    Skills are pretty much irrelevant in 4E, so unless that's your goal you possibly shouldn't copy that system...
    That's the same system 5e uses with its proficiency bonus. It seems to work to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurald Galain View Post
    Skills are pretty much irrelevant in 4E, so unless that's your goal you possibly shouldn't copy that system...
    I haven't played 4e since it first came out, so perhaps you could elaborate somewhat?
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    OP: If you're the GM and want people to be more socially adept, how'zabout just giving all PCs (or all creatures with at least 1 class level) ranks of social skills dependent upon their class level? Yes, actual ranks. This way people can't stack social skill synergies even higher, and it seemingly gives you what you want.
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    Default Re: Making social skills class skills for everyone?

    Quote Originally Posted by Endarire View Post
    OP: If you're the GM and want people to be more socially adept, how'zabout just giving all PCs (or all creatures with at least 1 class level) ranks of social skills dependent upon their class level? Yes, actual ranks. This way people can't stack social skill synergies even higher, and it seemingly gives you what you want.
    I think there is a misunderstanding of what my attention was. I don't want all PCs to be more socially adept (having a skill as a class skill doesn't make you any better at it unless you put points into it), I just don't think that being a fighter or wizard or whatnot should have that much more difficulty learning to be social than any other class. Learning to pick locks or perform acrobatics, yeah, that's something that some classes might inherently have restricted access to, but unless a character class somehow inherently isolates a character from society, I don't think that these skills should be penalized for those inclined to learn them.
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