OOTS #1021 - The Discussion Thread

[Anarion]

I love V and Blackwing's banter. Also Scruffy patting the Dino. So cute.

[Monstar3014]

New comic is up.

Mr. Giant,

Can this phrase from V be fixed?

"I will accept, in compromise, that we both have flaws upon which we are must continue to improve."

I don't think the "are" is supposed to be there.

[Ron Miel]

I'm guessing the "I don't know what's weirder" line has been on it's way for a while, and was the main reason another cat was introduced! Great setup, as always.

No, Vel & Whiskers were invented by a reader, and included as a kickstarter bonus.

[Sermil]

Wow, look at V getting all high-level-wizardly. "Walking is for people who don't have magic." I don't think I remember hem using flying-as-a-normal-mode-of-transportation except when channeling the IFCC's souls.

Subtle, but the heroes are getting more powerful.

[Keltest]

Wow, look at V getting all high-level-wizardly. "Walking is for people who don't have magic." I don't think I remember hem using flying-as-a-normal-mode-of-transportation except when channeling the IFCC's souls.

Subtle, but the heroes are getting more powerful.

V has regularly been flying since at least the last book, perhaps longer.

[Unkillable_Cat]

One "out of left field" question - is it possible that the vampire's attack upon Whiskers could somehow count as an attack against Veldrina, and therefore have an impact upon the Godsmoot?

[Aegis J Hyena]

V's final line is priceless. Blackwing STILL gets no love. ;)

There's so much character growth, I think the Mechane is leaking some out... heh.

[Goosefarble]

This was definitely one of the funniest strips! I loved both the final gag and the joke about Bugsby's Cat-Retrieving Hand

[PoeticDwarf]

I believe V's alignment is CN or TN. And we've already seen that vampire-Creed of Stone members are fair game. Therefore, any vampire at the gate who tries to deny V access is going to eat Evocations and die.

TN, yeah, it is pretty much just some vampires out there. I even think the life of Belkar can be saved by V

[Shining Wrath]

One "out of left field" question - is it possible that the vampire's attack upon Whiskers could somehow count as an attack against Veldrina, and therefore have an impact upon the Godsmoot?

I don't think so, for much the same reason that attacks against Gontor & friends didn't count. Either you have an official role at the moot, or you don't. Pet tigers don't have an official role.

ALTHOUGH THEY SHOULD.

[Lorkas]

Yuh oh--looks like some possible structural damage to the Mechane.

[8BitNinja]

Wow, that's a long apology/forgiving

Even I don't apologize for that long

[ChillerInstinct]

I'm looking forward to Bugsby's Cat-Retrieving Hand making a dramatic entrance in a climactic battle in the future. Fighting's going poorly, then all of a sudden, RANDOM PUMA STRIKE!

So presumably this is where V runs into Belkar, who tells hir about Durkon killing Gontor, giving hir just cause to blast the Goliath and waltz in to Roy and Veldrina (the best part is, if the HPoH used ALL of the vampires INSIDE the building as a distraction there's no worry of V getting hit by the Vampirific Gaze).

...Also, is it wrong that I tend to do a lot like V did during the punchline and, when trying to convince my friends that they caused me no misfortune, I try to comfort them by telling them that it wouldn't even had made LOGICAL sense to leave them to their trouble? I suppose in this case, the alternative was Blackwing DYING compared to, well, whatever inconvenience I try to help them out with, but still.

[8BitNinja]

What if the vampires started running, and then just so happened to run into the Azure city fleet?

Lots of smite evil and turn undead, and look, evil undead

[drebb]

In 3.5 a vampire bite causes constitution drain. They don't have potions for that.

Seriously? Not even on Scoundrél's top shelf?

[Doug Lampert]

V's final line is priceless. Blackwing STILL gets no love. ;)

I was thinking it prior to reading V saying it. To obvious a low hanging fruit to miss. :)

Wow, that's a long apology/forgiving

Even I don't apologize for that long

V is a firm believer in never using a one syllable word when a polysyllabic construction is applicable and never using a short description when a long one is available.

It saves slots you might otherwise waste on a sleep spell.

[Anansiil]

Gotta love a logical character lol :P

There's a small typo in panel 5, the word Are isn't needed, or could be 'all' instead.

That was a touching moment lol :)


With a little more emotional growth, V might add "and I might, perhaps, even miss a familiar more than an inanimate magical object. "
One step away from true concern, oh our V is growing ;'P

[Lord Torath]

Love the strip! Can't really say more than already's been said.

Does anyone know what Blackwing's, "I'm a wizard, Harry" is referencing?

[8BitNinja]

V is a firm believer in never using a one syllable word when a polysyllabic construction is applicable and never using a short description when a long one is available.

It saves slots you might otherwise waste on a sleep spell.

If V gave a lecture, it would double as a sleep spell

[bengator]

Can someone post the last time V used Bugsby's Cat Retrieving Hand? I vaguely remember it, but figure someone has it ready to go. Thanks!

And ditto on loving this strip. Looking forward to V blasting away. I hope he saves Belkar if for no other reason than the comic gold of Belkar owing V one . . .

[Lord Torath]

Can someone post the last time V used Bugsby's Cat Retrieving Hand? I vaguely remember it, but figure someone has it ready to go. Thanks!

And ditto on loving this strip. Looking forward to V blasting away. I hope he saves Belkar if for no other reason than the comic gold of Belkar owing V one . . .

It was in the arena.

[8BitNinja]

It was in the arena.

Two words

Chekov's gun

[Jasdoif]

Does anyone know what Blackwing's, "I'm a wizard, Harry" is referencing?

Almost certainly a Harry Potter reference, especially after "Pottericus mimickus!" in the previous strip.

[KorvinStarmast]

The return to humor, particularly in a closing frame, is appreciated.

Note: Mr Scruffy and Bloodfeast provide evidence that they have significant HP pools. They seem to have formed a bond, as between soldiers. Good news.

[King of Nowhere]

There's a typo in panel 5, a word "are" too much; others already mentioned it, but just to increase the chance the giant will notice it. Those look bad in a book.

I have to say, as a person who strongly believes in logic, I also would have said what V said. But still, the way I mean it does not diminish what stated earlier. I value a good friend and would help him even at the cost of many resources. i would do that even without taking into account that a good, loial friend will offer you the kind of lifelong support that is eventually worth much more than those resources. Hey, see what I mean?

[Jaxzan Proditor]

Aww, I love seeing Blackwing and Vaarsuvius continue to bond. I also enjoy seeing Vaarsuvius' continued preparedness with that spell.

[Ruck]

Hi!

Couldn't help but point to V saying "... we both have flaws upon which we are must ..." instead of "... we both have flaws upon which we must ...",

Roger

Maybe that's just one of the flaws upon which V are must continue to improve.

I believe V's alignment is CN or TN. And we've already seen that vampire-Creed of Stone members are fair game. Therefore, any vampire at the gate who tries to deny V access is going to eat Evocations and die.

Perhaps, say, the one who looks like he's about to make life unpleasant for Belkar?

I'm fairly sure the Giant has declared V to be TN. I can't see any case where V acted in a way to see a clear difference between the two (not enough panels in cities, I guess). In threads asking how CN "should be played", I would strongly recommend playing like V (instead of Thog or Belkar, which is the "CN PC" stereotype).

Thog and Belkar are both CE, no?

V has regularly been flying since at least the last book, perhaps longer.

It's a particularly good way to get somewhere when you're on an airship and the alternative is a really long climb down a rope ladder.

I never get tired of "Bugsby's _____ Hand" jokes. Although now I find myself wishing in #934 that V had called it "Bugsby's Dictator-Shoving Hand" or some such.

[Doug Lampert]

Thog and Belkar are both CE, no?

If you pay any attention at all to their actions they are CE, but then the same is true of a great many PCs whose players claim they are CN. I assume that the comment about the CN character stereotype was precisely because this isn't actual CN play.

I've heard and read any number of people try to defend blatant murder by a PC as "neutral" because the character got something out of it rather than doing it being purely because the character was LoLEvil. This also applies to people like assassins who do it for the money.

[Gwynfrid]

Wow, look at V getting all high-level-wizardly. "Walking is for people who don't have magic." I don't think I remember hem using flying-as-a-normal-mode-of-transportation except when channeling the IFCC's souls.

Subtle, but the heroes are getting more powerful.

At V's level, Overland Flight isn't a really high-level spell anymore (it's level 5) and it lasts all day. It's a reasonable investment to cast it every morning: In the event of a fight, it saves a precious round. Xykon does the same thing, by the way, even if he's shown walking most of the time.

[EricS53]

Does anyone know what Blackwing's, "I'm a wizard, Harry" is referencing?

In the first Harry Potter book/movie a half giant named Hargrad breaks down a door walks in, goes to Harry and says "you're a wizard, Harry". (leaving things out, this is what matters)