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    A: I don't think they have a jonin with them. They were originally just escorting that scientist into the city, and I don't remember seeing someone else with them throughout the journey. B: How in the world could Boruto "unlock Kurama" when Kurama is still inside of Naruto?? That makes literally zero sense.
    a the jonin in question is probably orochi brat mitsuki( suigetsu says he is undercover)
    b there is two kuramas yin half and yang half and since one half is sealed in naruto while other half goes to i dont know where. there is good chance somewhere down the line boruto gonna visit uncle kurama for chat and naruto also drop by to explain the thing.
    similarities between dad and son
    they both have whisker marks
    they are both pranksters
    both of them has shadow clone jutsu as first jutsus
    they both have infamous swing reveal of their lovers( naruto with hinata, boruto with sarada)
    both have smart guy as advisor
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    a the jonin in question is probably orochi brat mitsuki( suigetsu says he is undercover)
    b there is two kuramas yin half and yang half and since one half is sealed in naruto while other half goes to i dont know where. there is good chance somewhere down the line boruto gonna visit uncle kurama for chat and naruto also drop by to explain the thing.
    similarities between dad and son
    they both have whisker marks
    they are both pranksters
    both of them has shadow clone jutsu as first jutsus
    they both have infamous swing reveal of their lovers( naruto with hinata, boruto with sarada)
    both have smart guy as advisor
    did i need more
    You need a lot more, considering you obviously didn't read the end of the original naruto comic?
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    Naruto merged his half of Kurama with the other half after he defeated Sasuke, giving Naruto ALL of the nine-tails Chakra, both Yin and Yang.

    If you need a refresher: http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Kurama Go down to the Kaguya Ootosuki Strikes section, in the very last paragraph it details how Sasuke had absorbed both halves of Kurama, and then after Naruto managed to beat him anyways, that the original Sage of the Six Paths encouraged Kurama to rejoin with Naruto to look after him(This was done after the 8-tails rejoined Killer B).


    So yeah, your entire thesis is wrong just based on that. Naruto has all of Kurama's chakra, therefore Boruto can't be a hidden jinkchuuriki. The whisker marks is likely just a hereditary thing now, I imagine it will show up in all of Naruto's descendants.
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    You need a lot more, considering you obviously didn't read the end of the original naruto comic?
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    Naruto merged his half of Kurama with the other half after he defeated Sasuke, giving Naruto ALL of the nine-tails Chakra, both Yin and Yang.

    If you need a refresher: http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Kurama Go down to the Kaguya Ootosuki Strikes section, in the very last paragraph it details how Sasuke had absorbed both halves of Kurama, and then after Naruto managed to beat him anyways, that the original Sage of the Six Paths encouraged Kurama to rejoin with Naruto to look after him(This was done after the 8-tails rejoined Killer B).


    So yeah, your entire thesis is wrong just based on that. Naruto has all of Kurama's chakra, therefore Boruto can't be a hidden jinkchuuriki. The whisker marks is likely just a hereditary thing now, I imagine it will show up in all of Naruto's descendants.
    okay i am waiting for your answer about mitsuki part of my post fo other part thanks
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    okay i am waiting for your answer about mitsuki part of my post fo other part thanks
    I see no reason to respond to anything else. If Naruto has both halves of Kurama, it's therefore imposisble for Boruto to get them, it's pretty hard/dangerous for a jinchuuriki using the fox as the Tailed beast to be made with anything besides a baby. And, I really doubt that Suigetsu's kid is secretly a jonin.
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    I see no reason to respond to anything else. If Naruto has both halves of Kurama, it's therefore imposisble for Boruto to get them, it's nearly impossible for a jinchuuriki using the fox as the Tailed beast to be made with anything besides a baby. And, I really doubt that Suigetsu's kid is secretly a jonin.
    not suigetsu its orochimaru's kid but what ever until we get solid confrimation in manga my theory stays. mitsuki is atleast anbu class ninja on deep cover. ( and besides sasuke and kabuto who has snakes as theme by the way same earth collered snakes) his mission probably is keep an eye on boruto and grab additional experiment material.

    plus suigetsu still working for orochimaru i think and visits lightning villige on job from him where he hits mitsuki who basicly bosses him to submission.
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    not suigetsu its orochimaru's kid but what ever until we get solid confrimation in manga my theory stays. mitsuki is atleast anbu class ninja on deep cover. ( and besides sasuke and kabuto who has snakes as theme by the way same earth collered snakes) his mission probably is keep an eye on boruto and grab additional experiment material.

    plus suigetsu still working for orochimaru i think and visits lightning villige on job from him where he hits mitsuki who basicly bosses him to submission.

    Sorry, was in a rush, had to put daughter on bus. Wanted to put forth some more thoughts on the idea of Boruto being a future jinchuuriki for Kurama.

    Mito(1st known Jinchuuriki of Kurama) was an older person, but was full Uzumaki, and was purportedly a seal-master on par with, or even above Minato(who was hailed as a genius in the sealing arts). Kushina was a child when she was made a Jinchuuriki for Kurama, and was also a full Uzumaki(Uzumaki's have stronger life-forces, thus are well suited to become Jinchuuriki's). Naruto was only half Uzumaki, so it's questionable as to whether or not he would have survived being made a Jinchuuriki for Kurama if he was older. Boruto is only a quarter Uzumaki, and so far there have been no significant seal-masters revealed, so it's extremely doubtful he could be made a jinchuuriki.

    Now, I won't say it's totally impossible. I could possibly see some future shenanigans where before Naruto is killed(as was hinted at in the very first chapter, when we are shown Boruto fighting some unknown enemy), and that weird mark on Boruto's hand being revealed as a way to safely absorb and integrate Tailed Beasts into a human body regardless of whether or not they are Uzumaki or babies. But that's both unlikely, and very far in the future(Boruto looked to be at least 17 or so in that starting scene, maybe older. He's only what..13 now?).

    Anyways, most of your theory is, honestly, wild speculation, or just easily explained.

    Shadow Clone: Of course it'll be Boruto's first known jutsu. It was his dad's signature jutsu, and the one that allowed him to become so vastly powerful. Even being only a quarter Uzumaki, I imagine Boruto has chakra reserves equal to a jonin's already, probably more, so it's not dangerous for him to use it and train with it. Even then, his max appears to be 5? Or 4, I can't remember. Which, might I add, further reinforces the idea that Boruto can't possibly be a hidden Jinchuuriki(besides the obvious fact that Naruto has all of Kurama now). A Jinchuuriki would have the chakra reserves to make dozens/hundreds of Shadow Clones with no issues. And given how desperate the situation was against that fat guy that ate people to gain their powers/appearances, I don't think Boruto would have held back the ability to make more Shadow Clones once his Rasengan proved to be not enough.

    Pranksters: It's in the Uzumaki blood. Pretty sure in various flashbacks, stories told to Naruto about Kushina, it's revealed that Kushina was quite the prankster herself when she was a child. And again, when your dad is a well known prankster himself, it's only natural the son would follow in the father's footsteps.

    Lovers: When was it revealed that Sarada was Boruto's love interest? I mean, they do care for each other, but from what I've seen, it's solely the feelings one shares for a teammate that they spend a lot of time with. They haven't kissed or shown any overt actions of affection that would indicate that. Clearly wild speculation there

    Advisor: Who is Boruto's "Smart guy advisor"? The scientist? I don't see it. Boruto really dislikes the scientist, and even with the latest chapter showing some of that mellowing out a little, it's more of a "Well, others think highly of him, and he's trying to help people, so maybe he's not all that bad". Only time will show if he ends up being a serious advisor to Boruto, though given the age difference(Science guy appears to be at least 35, maybe older). Shikamaru on the other hand was virtually foreshadows as being Naruto's future go-to smart guy almost right from the beginning. They were class-mates from the get-go, Shikamaru was constantly touted as the genius of his generation, and as the series went on was constantly consulted for tactics and advice on various things.

    Whisker Marks: As I said, I think that's just a genetic mutation passed onto Boruto from Naruto. It's likely that housing Kurama for so long, that it changed Naruto's DNA to a slight degree, and that birth defect/mark was passed on. Definitely not from Boruto being a Jinchuuriki, as I clearly proved that Naruto currently has all of Kurama's Chakra.

    I will admit, I was mistaken on whatshisname being Suigetu's kid. That might possibly lead to him being a Jonin already, assuming that Orochimaru actually took the time out of his continuous experimentation to train him to a high enough degree. Given Orochimaru doesn't appear to have designs on possessing his body, I honestly doubt that, the only reason he trained Sasuke was so he could take his body. Lacking that incentive, I'm more of the opinion that he barely paid any attention to his kid, possibly educated him on the basics, and trained him solidly enough to be a high-level genin/low level chuunin. Again, only time will tell.
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    Sorry, was in a rush, had to put daughter on bus. Wanted to put forth some more thoughts on the idea of Boruto being a future jinchuuriki for Kurama.
    did you watch the series atleast major part of it
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    Shadow Clone: Of course it'll be Boruto's first known jutsu. It was his dad's signature jutsu, and the one that allowed him to become so vastly powerful. Even being only a quarter Uzumaki, I imagine Boruto has chakra reserves equal to a jonin's already, probably more, so it's not dangerous for him to use it and train with it. Even then, his max appears to be 5? Or 4, I can't remember. Which, might I add, further reinforces the idea that Boruto can't possibly be a hidden Jinchuuriki(besides the obvious fact that Naruto has all of Kurama now). A Jinchuuriki would have the chakra reserves to make dozens/hundreds of Shadow Clones with no issues. And given how desperate the situation was against that fat guy that ate people to gain their powers/appearances, I don't think Boruto would have held back the ability to make more Shadow Clones once his Rasengan proved to be not enough.
    you know until naruto learned sage technique he actualy wastes bunch of his chakra for simple techniques and the only jutsu he can pull is his sexy jutsu and its derivatives yet no one caught him impersonating sasuke for nearly all day.( okay target was easy to impersonate since he is to angsty to have proper friendship any d*ck move you made kinda suits sasukes character )
    Pranksters: It's in the Uzumaki blood. Pretty sure in various flashbacks, stories told to Naruto about Kushina, it's revealed that Kushina was quite the prankster herself when she was a child. And again, when your dad is a well known prankster himself, it's only natural the son would follow in the father's footsteps.
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    Lovers: When was it revealed that Sarada was Boruto's love interest? I mean, they do care for each other, but from what I've seen, it's solely the feelings one shares for a teammate that they spend a lot of time with. They haven't kissed or shown any overt actions of affection that would indicate that. Clearly wild speculation there
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    Advisor: Who is Boruto's "Smart guy advisor"? The scientist? I don't see it. Boruto really dislikes the scientist, and even with the latest chapter showing some of that mellowing out a little, it's more of a "Well, others think highly of him, and he's trying to help people, so maybe he's not all that bad". Only time will show if he ends up being a serious advisor to Boruto, though given the age difference(Science guy appears to be at least 35, maybe older). Shikamaru on the other hand was virtually foreshadows as being Naruto's future go-to smart guy almost right from the beginning. They were class-mates from the get-go, Shikamaru was constantly touted as the genius of his generation, and as the series went on was constantly consulted for tactics and advice on various things.
    naruto has shikamaru as smart guy advisor. boruto has shikadai as his smart lancer/ advaisor ( hell shikamaru basicly asks his son to help boruto when ever he needs(large part of the series sikadai and inojin stick around boruto helping him on homeworks, or groom him to become hokage))
    Whisker Marks: As I said, I think that's just a genetic mutation passed onto Boruto from Naruto. It's likely that housing Kurama for so long, that it changed Naruto's DNA to a slight degree, and that birth defect/mark was passed on. Definitely not from Boruto being a Jinchuuriki, as I clearly proved that Naruto currently has all of Kurama's Chakra.
    maybe genetic but it does not explain why naruto play same gambit as his father.
    I will admit, I was mistaken on whatshisname being Suigetu's kid. That might possibly lead to him being a Jonin already, assuming that Orochimaru actually took the time out of his continuous experimentation to train him to a high enough degree. Given Orochimaru doesn't appear to have designs on possessing his body, I honestly doubt that, the only reason he trained Sasuke was so he could take his body. Lacking that incentive, I'm more of the opinion that he barely paid any attention to his kid, possibly educated him on the basics, and trained him solidly enough to be a high-level genin/low level chuunin. Again, only time will tell.
    Orochimaru probably trains them as perfect soldiers and probably teached him basics about ninja world until he gets the memo about mitsuki's free will which he decides to not scrap him and start again and few times he sends snakes to get reports from him and send him orders( aka his kill class rep sumire kanagi so orochimaru can grab custom made bijui tech for him self until boruto casts therapy no jutsu and defuses her. which orochimaru says its okay)
    so team konohamaru has jonin in their ranks and i can bet a ramen blow that naruto knows boruto is atleast jonin level already so they can handle the mission and for the record all of them second generartion sannin so a+ rank mission might be accidental cake walk for them ( hello they stop freaking coop while school trip for christ sake)
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    I'm wondering the same for you. Everything I said regarding that part is entirely factual. Mito Uzumaki, wife of the Shodai Hokage, Hasharima Senju, was the first(known to us anyways) jinchuuriki of Kurama. She and her husband wrested Kurama away from Madara's control during the their final battle at the Valley of the End. Madara summoned Kurama and enslaved him with his Sharingan, but Mito ended up sealing Kurama away into herself. Kushina was brought to the Leaf village either just before, or just after the destruction of her village, the Whirlpool Village. She was a child, though I'm not sure if her age was given, but given the fact that she enrolled into the academy as a first year student, I'm going to guess about 8 years old or so.

    you know until naruto learned sage technique he actualy wastes bunch of his chakra for simple techniques and the only jutsu he can pull is his sexy jutsu and its derivatives yet no one caught him impersonating sasuke for nearly all day.( okay target was easy to impersonate since he is to angsty to have proper friendship any d*ck move you made kinda suits sasukes character )
    What in the world does ANY of that have to do with Boruto making Shadow clones, and it being the first Jutsu he learned? None of that has any bearing whatsoever on that topic, lol. I'm honestly confused as to what you are trying to get at with any of that. If you're trying to use it to say that Boruto's chakra reserves are even larger, I again point you to the fact that he has never made more then 4-5, and also give the simple fact that Naruto's reserves were only as massive as they were because of the Foxes chakra slowly leaking into his system and enlarging his chakra coils over time and increasing his over-all reserves. Boruto has none of that, and he's only 1/4 Uzumaki, which gives moderately higher chakra reserves than a normal shinobi, but nowhere near on the same level as Naruto was at his age.


    wait until end of series. I am gonna post again and say ı said so.
    Go for it? Right now all you have is baseless speculation. Which is fine, really, but don't try to spout it off as fact for your wild theories as to why Boruto is going to be a jinchuuriki for Kurama. It has literally zero bearing on the situation.


    naruto has shikamaru as smart guy advisor. boruto has shikadai as his smart lancer/ advaisor ( hell shikamaru basicly asks his son to help boruto when ever he needs(large part of the series sikadai and inojin stick around boruto helping him on homeworks, or groom him to become hokage))
    Is this in the movie that came before the comic? Because I haven't seen the movie, so I honestly have no idea what you're talking about here. Having said that, the fact that he has only shown up in the Chuunin exam, and only for basically a cameo, kind of tells me it's unlikely he's going to play a large part in the series. I could be wrong, but again, it's baseless speculation on your part, not fact that you seem to be trying to pass it off as.

    maybe genetic but it does not explain why naruto play same gambit as his father.
    Again, what in the world are you talking about here? What gambit are you talking about, and where did this line of conversation even come from here? You certainly never mentioned any "Gambit" in your initial response to me, and I fail to see how any of that has to do with the topic we were talking about.

    Orochimaru probably trains them as perfect soldiers and probably teached him basics about ninja world until he gets the memo about mitsuki's free will which he decides to not scrap him and start again and few times he sends snakes to get reports from him and send him orders( aka his kill class rep sumire kanagi so orochimaru can grab custom made bijui tech for him self until boruto casts therapy no jutsu and defuses her. which orochimaru says its okay)
    so team konohamaru has jonin in their ranks and i can bet a ramen blow that naruto knows boruto is atleast jonin level already so they can handle the mission and for the record all of them second generartion sannin so a+ rank mission might be accidental cake walk for them ( hello they stop freaking coop while school trip for christ sake)
    Sooo, more stuff that hasn't happened, and you're just pulling crap out of thin air. Alrighty then. While I'm not sure how easily it is for a leopard to change their spots, Orochimaru has seemingly turned over a new leaf, I fail to see why he would anger Naruto and have his son attack the scientists and steal tech, he obviously knows that Naruto would come kill him in an instant for that kind of betrayal.

    As far as their individual power levels....Ehh. I'm not convinced by what has been shown so far in the manga. Boruto relied on ninja tech to basically cheat his way through the exam, which indicates his lack of faith in his own skills, meaning he's unlikely to be on a high enough level to be considered a jonin. Chuunin? Sure, maybe. Especially after perfecting his invisible Rasengan. Sarada with her Sharingan is also likely Chuunin, but again nothing has indicated any jonin level skills. The only one on their team that may possibly be at such a level is Orochimaru's son, which is totally up in the air right now until we get further information. So far nothing he's shown gives off that impression, but Orochimaru is a tricky one, and has likely instilled that much into his son as well, so unlike Boruto & Sarada, I can believe he is possibly hiding strength until the time is right. I definitely don't think he's evil though.

    Over-all, half your post is entirely confusing to read, the other half is wild speculation that has almost no basis in the reality that the comic has shown thus far. You question me as to whether or not I've seen the series, but given your lack of knowledge and wild jumps of "logic", I think it's more likely that you haven't.
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    starwulf lets not derail the treat and I watched the major portion of the series( i just stoped kagura era)as for mitsuki stealing tech for him i think no he asked him to kill sumire so they burry her corpse then he can pull his magic and learn intricacies about how to create beings similar to nue and may be( here is the theory part) develop next generation of cursed seals with chakra beasts to boaster recipients power instead of him giving power to them and mutatating them( end of theory). And mitsuki not gonna steal something for him more like hey pops there is something you wanna experiment here. do you need genetic sample or whole thing?
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    Much epicness is had by both minato and kushina. Naruto ran into the stumbling block of not being the bright eyed optimist that could talk pein around and instead has to fight him over their motivations or whatever. proceeds to school him while showing that yeah, he HAS fought pein before. Finale ends with some serious kiaju badness taking shape and naruto establishing why he is a freaking monster and lord of the skies. It was almost enough to make me forget that he is still heavily sealed in strength which in hindsight makes me want to poop myself in terror at the implications. He is absurdly strong as he is. Able to match most of akatsuki in an open fight, and yet this isnt even close to his final form/powerup. And even scarier, he is very aware of how small of a fish he actually is in the greater multiverse. He has the power to reshape nations, maybe not casually, but its there, and he is an insect compared to the type of stuff out there.
    Finally got a chance to read it! Absolutely amazing stuff of epicness as usual from Third Fang. Love the ending for the chapter. Literal Lord of the Skies, looking down at all the people beneath him as though they were ants. And yeah, I've been slowly wondering just how incredibly broken Naruto really is in this story when it comes to power. He wields this much now, with Demon mode and Demon Sage mode both blocked(does he have access to actual sage mode itself? Or was that sealed as well? I honestly can't remember at this point). I can't wait to see what exactly happens when his full power is unsealed, and also what exactly it's going to be needed to be unsealed for. That might be the scariest question of all.
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    Finally got a chance to read it! Absolutely amazing stuff of epicness as usual from Third Fang. Love the ending for the chapter. Literal Lord of the Skies, looking down at all the people beneath him as though they were ants. And yeah, I've been slowly wondering just how incredibly broken Naruto really is in this story when it comes to power. He wields this much now, with Demon mode and Demon Sage mode both blocked(does he have access to actual sage mode itself? Or was that sealed as well? I honestly can't remember at this point). I can't wait to see what exactly happens when his full power is unsealed, and also what exactly it's going to be needed to be unsealed for. That might be the scariest question of all.
    I think ghost said explicitly that he wouldnt be unsealed for anything less than the actual madera and up level stuff. As a side note, this could have interesting ramifications across the elemental nations. They all get to see akatsuki, they all get to see what they are up to, they all get to see how absurdly broken they are. But they also get to see how absurdly broken konoha is. So even though everyone but iwa was theoretically allied before the timeskip, this whole event should do a great job of showing them why they HAVE to unite, and why they SHOULD pick narutos side of the battle. I get the feeling this is going to end messy and probably with at best a minor tactical victory or loss with tobi and his gedo statue strutting its stuff so that even if nagato konan and itachi all openly switch sides, it shows he is still the real danger. Basically, neither side will really "win" this battle. Iwa might get leveled or even taken over, but akatsuki will have lost kisame to death, deidara is pretty wrecked, and the two powerhouses of pein and itachi defecting along with konan leaving them greatly weakened by the "victory" With a weakened tobi and deidara, zetsu, hidan, kakuzu, and sasori being all thats left to carry out the plan. Pyrrhic victory anyone? Well, maybe not entirely, they will likely have gotten Hans demon after all. But still, thats not a lot to show for the price they are paying.
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    well I said boruto and sarada are official couple since chapter 19 shows perfect evidence sarada pulling hinata that means my hunch was correct so i said so folks.
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    well I said boruto and sarada are official couple since chapter 19 shows perfect evidence sarada pulling hinata that means my hunch was correct so i said so folks.
    Meh, nothing like Hinata, she wasn't even able to express her feelings for Naruto properly until right before he went 8-tails against Pain. She fainted several times just being in close proximity to him when she was Boruto and Sarada's age, whereas Sarada is on a team with Boruto and functions just fine. She may/may not be developing feelings for him(I admit, after reading this latest chapter and her response to Class Prez, it does seem like she might) but she's got some competition in the Class Prez, and maybe one or two other girls(I finally got around to watching most of the anime, so I'm caught up on what all happened while he was in the academy). Anyways, they definitely aren't a "couple" yet, nowhere near it. Personally, after watching most of the anime, I'm rooting for the Class Prez, even knowing who she really was.

    My more pressing question is whether or not that is an actual gatling gun, or if it will fire off ninjutsu in rapid fire(like, considerably faster then those puppets were able to dispense). Also very surprised he's willing to attack Konoha ninja. If even one survives and gets back to Naruto(which they obviously will, or the whole manga would be over, lol), he has to know he'll be outed as working against them. Naruto will obliterate him, and half the mist with him by himself, and we all know Sasuke and Sakura will be by his side. Those three alone could wreck an entire nation by themselves. Factor Kakashi and a few others and well...yeah, the Mist is going to be a smoking crater.
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    Incidently regarding Class Prez she's apparently an early arc villain in the Bort anime (some kind of evil thing made her evil) and that's weird. The anime seems really disconnected from the manga, but then the anime takes place before even the movies so that's not a surprise.

    Also yeah this chapter was...okay? It introduces robots and also chainguns. Sweet. Otherwise it's just kinda interesting, which is okay.


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    Incidently regarding Class Prez she's apparently an early arc villain in the Bort anime (some kind of evil thing made her evil) and that's weird. The anime seems really disconnected from the manga, but then the anime takes place before even the movies so that's not a surprise.

    Also yeah this chapter was...okay? It introduces robots and also chainguns. Sweet. Otherwise it's just kinda interesting, which is okay.
    Well sumire was a tykebomb until boruto hit her with hastetenig the nights end( exalted charm). Then she pulled 180 and end up as hinata style romantic lead but sarada was the first girl to pull hinata in the story. And if i know my manga lore well we have first girl wins trope in our hands with rest of the class as shippers on deck. On sumire situation i bet she hook up with mitsuki of all thing as they both tykebombs with more skill then their pears.
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    Incidently regarding Class Prez she's apparently an early arc villain in the Bort anime (some kind of evil thing made her evil) and that's weird. The anime seems really disconnected from the manga, but then the anime takes place before even the movies so that's not a surprise.

    Also yeah this chapter was...okay? It introduces robots and also chainguns. Sweet. Otherwise it's just kinda interesting, which is okay.
    its more like she is the daughter of a leftover Danzo/ROOT guy and ever since the village like, got rid of those two things, her father swore revenge on the village and put this stupid tattoo on her that allows her to make this summoning and traveling through dimension stuff happen. and basically she gets redeemed because Boruto points out she basically abusing the beast she summons the same way her father abused her and now she summons the beast in chibi form because she doesn't drain chakra from people anymore.

    its this whole thing where Mitsuki was like dropping hints he was going to try and kill her throughout the entire arc, who is himself a guy made to be a weapon by Orochimaru, but like Boruto is like "no, your father is an idiot, you got abused, and there is no point to this stupid revenge thing thats not even your desire, just cut it out and you can be happy." and he is completely right. its much better than how Naruto would done it, because he used actual logic to point out the whole problem with Sumire's actions.
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    ....So, I'm seriously hoping that Sarada's attraction to Boruto is just a crush she gets over, because honestly those two cannot be allowed to breed: Between them, they have like, 90% of what's needed to ressurect Kaguya+some extras and it wouldn't exactly be hard to getthe remaining ten percent.

    I'm not saying that their potential offspring would be Kaguya reincarnated or bring her back a second time, but absolute power and corruption and all that jazz--the child would be genetically disposed towards reaching God-Tier and that only worked with one of the hypothetical child's grandfathers becuase the other grandpa literally beat the crazy out of him.
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    ....So, I'm seriously hoping that Sarada's attraction to Boruto is just a crush she gets over, because honestly those two cannot be allowed to breed: Between them, they have like, 90% of what's needed to ressurect Kaguya+some extras and it wouldn't exactly be hard to getthe remaining ten percent.

    I'm not saying that their potential offspring would be Kaguya reincarnated or bring her back a second time, but absolute power and corruption and all that jazz--the child would be genetically disposed towards reaching God-Tier and that only worked with one of the hypothetical child's grandfathers becuase the other grandpa literally beat the crazy out of him.
    Yeah, I agree no godlike-child please. Naruto is already OP enough. hopefully Boruto is like "I don't want to be Hokage, I didn't like my father the Hokage, WHY WOULD I WANT TO DATE THE FUTURE HOKAGE!? I'M TRYING TO GET AWAY FROM THAT!"

    Personally I'd want Mitsuki to get Boruto in the end. I mean, he keeps saying how Boruto is the reason he chose to stay in the village and he keeps talking to Boruto during sunsets and on rooftops and at night while speaking softly, and they work so well together, Mitsuki clearly is the better choice for Boruto.
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    its more like she is the daughter of a leftover Danzo/ROOT guy and ever since the village like, got rid of those two things, her father swore revenge on the village and put this stupid tattoo on her that allows her to make this summoning and traveling through dimension stuff happen. and basically she gets redeemed because Boruto points out she basically abusing the beast she summons the same way her father abused her and now she summons the beast in chibi form because she doesn't drain chakra from people anymore.

    its this whole thing where Mitsuki was like dropping hints he was going to try and kill her throughout the entire arc, who is himself a guy made to be a weapon by Orochimaru, but like Boruto is like "no, your father is an idiot, you got abused, and there is no point to this stupid revenge thing thats not even your desire, just cut it out and you can be happy." and he is completely right. its much better than how Naruto would done it, because he used actual logic to point out the whole problem with Sumire's actions.
    This sounds ****ing terrible and yet also really good. I'm glad Bort the series has managed to capture both the best and worst of Naruto.


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    So... I got another volume of Naruto DVDs for Christmas, so I really ought to make an effort to catch up watching again this year.

    (It's really weird - volume 25, about where I left off - has floated around the 25 mark new, but all previous and subsequent volumes are around 15. The frack?)

    I have thus started in the best possible way...

    By watching Rock Lee's Ninja Pals which I got (the first half of, second half now bought from Austrailia, the only place that has it, again...) Christmas.

    And it is, if anything, even funnier in English (which, for Bleakbane the filthy peasant, is with the Proper Voices).

    Well, mostly, but I can only salute the lasses voicing Naruto and Sakura for doing such damn good job of sound-alike.

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    Oh speaking of Naruto, Bort had an update.
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    Aoi shot at them with a chaingun. They break it, Konohamaru gets shot in the shoulder by a hidden shoulder gun, the nameless glasses ninja who I think we're supposed to know died to let our heroes escape. Aoi has Darth Maul's lightsaber, and Bort is gonna Obi Wan him. Everyone continues to have garbage opinions about technology that feel like they should be way better received than they are. Like, the writing thinks it's way better than it is, and it's good writing, but it thinking it's that good is making it worse.

    Anyway yeah ninja lightsaber fights.


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    well one more episode to end of the shikadi's character development. and as start of the arc shows we are nearly at the chunin exams arc which means we reach the movies in next two arcs
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    So...

    Why does Rock Lee's Ninja Oals have a better (story for the) finale than the actual show?!



    Still, it has very much put me back in mind for the actual show again, so time to start working through (and acquiring!) those DVDs to get back toward speed...



    (And, coming back to Naruto fanfic after I moved over to pony predominatly, I realise FimFiction has spoiled me, since the signal to noise ratio is SOOO much higher there, and there's so much more spread around the whole cast. I ended up starting to re-read some old favourites in desparation! The apparent near-total lack of Ninja-Pals inspired stories also greatly surprised me.)

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    So...

    Why does Rock Lee's Ninja Oals have a better (story for the) finale than the actual show?!



    Still, it has very much put me back in mind for the actual show again, so time to start working through (and acquiring!) those DVDs to get back toward speed...



    (And, coming back to Naruto fanfic after I moved over to pony predominatly, I realise FimFiction has spoiled me, since the signal to noise ratio is SOOO much higher there, and there's so much more spread around the whole cast. I ended up starting to re-read some old favourites in desparation! The apparent near-total lack of Ninja-Pals inspired stories also greatly surprised me.)
    Because Rock Lee's Springtime of Youth is a silly comedy show that doesn't have to care about plot, so it can instead focus on the things that are what actually made Naruto good. The characters interacting with each other.


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    Quote Originally Posted by LaZodiac View Post
    Because Rock Lee's Springtime of Youth is a silly comedy show that doesn't have to care about plot, so it can instead focus on the things that are what actually made Naruto good. The characters interacting with each other.
    This is so very true.

    (It's also why I like the filler arcs, mostly. It's just the them all [richard]ing around.)

    Damn, though. Ninja Pals may not have made me laugh as hard as some other stuff, but there are few things that have me so consistently giggling through an entire episode from start to finish like it does.



    So, in reading the old stories (some humourous spins on the hoary old "time-travel to fix everything") one, it gave me an amusing (albeit woll-never be written because Bleakbane) idea... Invert the old trope; instead of (usually) Naruto going back in time, everyone BUT Naruto goes back in time. (And I mean, like, everyone; the entire Leaf, Sand, all the ninja involved in the forth ninja war etc - except the bad guys.) Cue a silly comedy, where an increasing bewildered Naruto wakes up on the morning of his genin graduation to everyone being not just nice, but ridiculously nice. He staggers into the academy, laden with random stuff given to him by all the villagers he meets, gets mobbed by the entire class (even all the ones outside the Konoha twelve), and Sasuke is like "seat's right here, buddy!" and the then Third calls Naruto in to a meeting with him, Kakashi an Jirayia and they explain all about the 4th Hokage...

    The running joke being Naruto's complete bafflement that everyone all seems to pally with each other, strangers he's never met keep addressing him like an old friend and no-one actually ever lets im do anything, since they're too busy protecting him...



    Yeah, that's nearly as bad as my theorised antidote to vampire fics "everyone (important) becomes a Lich and Hilarity Ensues."



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    So - after TWO YEARS - so long I actually had to go look up my last posts on the subject to remember where I even WAS - I have started on the main series proper again.

    So, it's back down the hilarious behind-everyone-else Bleakbane Catches Up With Naruto rabbit hole!

    Three episodes, starting with Attack of the Gedo Statue.

    In which Naruto continues to play directly in Madara's plan...

    I'm pretty sure Tenten took out, like, half of Kuzuku single-handedly with that fan. And her desparate pawig at Ino to get it back was adorable. Still Best Ninja. Bugger all the detrimental everyone says about her, she's still Best.

    And... the statue's attack... Yeah, that's not good.

    Okay. So... 50% casualties to both sides on one day. That's...

    The number of times in history when one side suffers 50% casualties is rare, and usually signifies a catastrophic defeat. I mean, wow. That's...

    Huh.

    Assuming we take that at face value and not as "Kishi/the writers don't understand how battles works" - which is a distinct possiblity - maybe they DO need Naruto after all...



    Next episode, Naruto continues to be stupid, by needlessly burning nine-tails chakra for no readily apparent reason. I sort of get that they want to get there fast but... That CANNOT be the most efficient way of doing that, since he's not moving much faster than normal from what i can tell... Anyone who hasn't had a two-0year gap want to justify a reason why he's staying in super-saiyin mode for mere transit?

    He and Kurama have another barny, in which we flash back to another retcon moment in there is a unity symbol sparring thing that has never been brought up before and will almost certainly never be again, in order to further say Saskue and Naruto have been at odds for years, even though it ludivrously uncessary.

    And yes, Niney, Naruto IS stupid, but so are you. Bleating on about all the hatred caused by the war would work if a little over LITERALLY 99.95% of the enemy weren't all EXACTLY THE SAME PERSON, who is an S-ranked evil criminal! Seriously, the white Zetsus aren't even frigging Star Wars Clone Troopers! There really isn't the same cycle of hatred when it's just one completely off-his-rocker cloned nutter involved...

    Also, if I were you, Vulpix, I'd be rather concerned when Naruto threatens to duff up your hatred, because he actually MIGHT DO IT. And succeed...



    Next episode, the medical ninja are under attack. a) you actually had me there, guys, I didn't see that twist with Neji coming, b) Real Neji is clearly still channelling Ninja Pals (thankfully) and c) Ahahahahahahaha! You tried to assassinate SAKURA! Ahahahahahahaha! You idiot!



    By my calculations, as I am in the middle of DVD volume 22 and have to volume 31 (released Feburary) to catch up to, I have just over as many episodes to catch up on to that point as there are LEFT in the series, assuming the standard 13 episodes per DVD release (which equates to seven plus some spare DVDs left). Ye gods.

    It's REALLY weird. Those of you with very long memories may remember I was kvetching about the price of the DVDs had gone silly? Well, almost all the DVDs are 20 on release and go down to about 15... Except for, for some WEIRD reason, volume 24, which was 25 on amazon and has stayed at that since release. (I have bought that one from a seller (used) at HALF that price.) That is SO freaking weird...

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    Well yeah, thats the dvd where [SPOILER]naruto and hinata hook up and things get a little xxx rated. [/SPOILER So it makes sense for it to cost more.
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    Well yeah, thats the dvd where [SPOILER]naruto and hinata hook up and things get a little xxx rated. [/SPOILER So it makes sense for it to cost more.
    See, now I'm just gonna be disappointed...



    Next three epsidoes! And - it's filler! Yay! (Without any sarcasm!)

    Team Eight are awesome - and so silly. (And seriously, it's nice to have Hinata in a not-Naruto context - mostly! Don't get me wrong, Hinata's great and her Naruto-crush is by turns hilarious and awesome, but it's nice to remember there is a little more to her than just that.)



    Pahahahahahahaha! Deidara, you so silly! Why did they recruit you again, you're so dumb!



    And then Konohamoru totally kills a bunch of fat guys after they get beaten up by the Shonobi Leaf Wives. (And I'm 90% sure half of them have ninja training, or at least Chounji's and Ino's mums do.)

    Really, as they say, this explains SO MUCH...!


    Normally I'd stop at three, but I am pretty sure that elf angle paladin that's stalking me (seriously, I'm starting to empathise with Saskue, it's CREEPY) did something to me again because I suddenly feel crap and that's really bad when you're a lich, so very briefly:

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    Naruto uses Talk no Jutsu!

    It's super-effective!

    Tsnade uses Talk no Justu! It's Super-Effective!

    Naruto uses Extremespeed!

    Former Enemy Raikage is knocked out!



    Also, okay, Naruto had fair points, Raikage had fair points, but he's an ass, and okay, good job Naruto is coming and now I'm becomng incoherent so I'd better stop before I stop parking on cohesive sandwiches.

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    Wait holy **** you're THAT far behind.

    Enjoy the next five million years of nothing but pointless awful war.


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    Wait holy **** you're THAT far behind.

    Enjoy the next five million years of nothing but pointless awful war.
    Yeah, I've seen the archives of Naruto Shippuden. the filler is strong, rivals some pokemon seasons in density. I honestly have just skipped to the new series which is better than the original, but I've lost track of my place after the new Team 7 was formed? I dunno I'll have to catch up. though maybe I should see that movie where Naruto and Hinata hook up, just so that I can see Hinata having her win there.
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