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    Quote Originally Posted by Reboot View Post
    That version of the blurb doesn't really work, since "Unless it's meant to be inserted in the middle of older art." doesn't relate to anything else - if you changed it to "And everything from now on will be unless it's meant to be inserted in the middle of older art", it would make more sense.
    Hm. That's how it should have been in the first place, guess I accidentally removed that part while I was shifting the description around...anyway, fixed.
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    Shouldn't the font that the strip now used by the comic - Wildwords Lower per this Giant post (where he slightly misnames it as Wildwords Lowercase [sic]) - be part of the Index? (Possibly as an entry, possibly as an additional note to "On Changing Font Style".)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reboot View Post
    Shouldn't the font that the strip now used by the comic - Wildwords Lower per this Giant post (where he slightly misnames it as Wildwords Lowercase [sic]) - be part of the Index? (Possibly as an entry, possibly as an additional note to "On Changing Font Style".)
    At the time, it didn't pass a vote for inclusion...but I'm certainly open to discussing its inclusion again; it's been a bit over four years now. What's everyone else think about it?
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    At the time, it didn't pass a vote for inclusion...but I'm certainly open to discussing its inclusion again; it's been a bit over four years now. What's everyone else think about it?
    Sounds like it should be present.
    An explanation of why MitD being any larger than Huge is implausible.

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    I see no reason to change my vote.

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    I see no reason to change my vote.
    ...which was for inclusion.
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    On the font, and on the "is it interesting enough" criterion generally: "Interesting" has always been viewed as a very, very low bar here. This is because "interesting" is very much in the eye of the famous monster covered by some company's intellectual property rights. In other words: These details matter to a portion of the audience, we should include them.
    (Digging up multiple-years-old posts to provide context to current discussions is kinda what I do )
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    I'd say that it feels interesting enough.

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    ...which was for inclusion.
    (Digging up multiple-years-old posts to provide context to current discussions is kinda what I do )
    I didn't want to quote myself but yes, I did check it out first

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    Include it.
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    Yea, I think it's worth including.

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    I don't care for it but others might and it is about the comic itself.

    Include.
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    I'd go for Include too. Lady vampire told me to say so.
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    I'd go for Include too. Lady vampire told me to say so.
    I vote to not include. It would be honorable to make it easier for future readers of the Index to learn more about OOTS fonts, but if the vampires want us to include it, then that’s an excellent reason not to do so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emanick View Post
    I vote to not include. It would be honorable to make it easier for future readers of the Index to learn more about OOTS fonts, but if the vampires want us to include it, then that’s an excellent reason not to do so.
    That's absurd, sir. Not that I'm saying that I wouldn't vote in such way if my mistress hadn't told me to, but even if that was the case, beings who live for centuries are indeed in a position to have a good understanding about the value of recording information. (Just keeping the joke on. Your vote is your vote)
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    No again.

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    But really, the important lesson here is this: Rather than making assumptions that don't fit with the text and then complaining about the text being wrong, why not just choose different assumptions that DO fit with the text?
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    I said include, right?
    An explanation of why MitD being any larger than Huge is implausible.

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    Include eight, nine, ten. Which is more than three more characters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squire Doodad View Post
    I said include, right?
    You indicated your approval, yes. There's no official vote at this point...and barring some shift in the general direction, there won't be one; it's looking like the entry will simply be added into the Index on the 25th (barring five more quotes coming up in the interim).
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    I say include, not as its own entry but an addendum on fonts as suggested earlier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emanick View Post
    I vote to not include. It would be honorable to make it easier for future readers of the Index to learn more about OOTS fonts, but if the vampires want us to include it, then that’s an excellent reason not to do so.
    That is a preposterous accusation. Even after the vampires were destroyed I'm still voting Yes.

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    I say include, not as its own entry but an addendum on fonts as suggested earlier.
    Hmm. Does that mean the quote about originally using Comic Sans should be included as well? Adding onto the entry for the change of fonts doesn't make a whole lot of sense without describing the change itself.

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    I have thousands myself, but I chose Comic Sans because all of the other "comic book" style fonts that I had were caps-only (because American comic books are usually caps-only). I prefer writing with sentence casing, so I picked Comic Sans. I did not know that anyone had an issue with it, however, until OOTS had been running for some time. For the "Julio Scoundrél" story in SSaDT, I experimented with a sentence-case font from Blambot Foundry that I didn't have access to when OOTS began, and I really liked it (though it really needed the organic speech balloons I used there to make it feel right). At this point, even though I have more attractive font options available, I'm probably going to stick with Comic Sans to the end now. It'll just be confusing to switch in the middle.

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    Hmm. Does that mean the quote about originally using Comic Sans should be included as well? Adding onto the entry for the change of fonts doesn't make a whole lot of sense without describing the change itself.
    I would support it.

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    I would support it.
    Samesies for me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jasdoif View Post
    Hmm. Does that mean the quote about originally using Comic Sans should be included as well? Adding onto the entry for the change of fonts doesn't make a whole lot of sense without describing the change itself.
    It seems logical that we would include both.
    An explanation of why MitD being any larger than Huge is implausible.

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    It seems logical that we would include both.
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    At the time, it didn't pass a vote for inclusion...but I'm certainly open to discussing its inclusion again; it's been a bit over four years now. What's everyone else think about it?
    Makes me feel a little old that we voted on that four years ago! I still remain in favor of inclusion. I’d also be okay with the original comic sans quote. Is the idea that one would be a see also to the other or would they both get separate entries?


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    Makes me feel a little old that we voted on that four years ago! I still remain in favor of inclusion. I’d also be okay with the original comic sans quote. Is the idea that one would be a see also to the other or would they both get separate entries?
    I think the proposed direction was having all the font-y quotes in a single entry. Maybe something like....

    On Changing Font Style
    The failure of the Giant's old computer means the style couldn't stay the same, hence the change from "Comic Sans" to "Wildwords Lowercase".
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    That direction hasn't been firmly established at this point, though.
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    Looks good to me.

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    I'm in favor of that.
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    That proposal is acceptable. I support it.
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