The Index of the Giant's Comments V―On a Saner Forum, We Wouldn't Need this Index

[Fyraltari]

I disagree a large part of humour is the element of surprise. Many jokes aren’t funny when explained simply because you can’t be surprised by a joke you know is there.

[Jasdoif]

if a joke stops being funny because people understand it it wasnt funny. usually what people are doing is just making it a meme. people laugh because they are 'in' on it and have that dopamine feeling of recognizing something, making that mental connection and then feeling special to be 'in' on it

every funny joke can be explained , all humor can be. its just most people who explore that (see: Big Bang Theory and Their Horrible Characterization of Sheldon) go out of their way to make anyone trying to understand humor a moron who doesnt get it

I disagree a large part of humour is the element of surprise. Many jokes aren’t funny when explained simply because you can’t be surprised by a joke you know is there.

Well...indirectly, anyway. I think humor is largely rooted in the breaking of expected patterns, which requires knowledge of those patterns to work. Element of surprise usually accompanies it the first time, true, but non-trivial comedy retains humor value even if you're aware of it coming.

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And we're on a new page already!

While this isn't formal, we've got a few pages left before the next thread, so in the interests of post wrangling....

This will be approval voting: vote for (and/or propose) as many titles as you like, even if there's only one you like; whichever title has the most people voting for it will be the title of the next thread. In the case of a tie, I will choose one of the tied options.
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I'll be tracking viable titles until I start on the next thread in...a few pages.

Incidentally, if anyone is intentionally changing their vote, please make a new post containing all the titles you're voting for; trying to track one person's vote across multiple posts almost guarantees I'm going to mess up somewhere....

Proposed Title	Votes	Voters
The Index of the Giant's Comments VI - That's What HE Said	12	Ron Miel, D.One, HorizonWalker, snowblizz, Bundin, dmc91356, Kish, Joerg, Emanick, Lissou, Doug Lampert, Charybdis136
The Index of the Giant's Comments VI - Making Dogma from Zapped Bananas	10	137ben, D.One, Squire Doodad, b_jonas, Rollin, super dark33, Emanick, Schroeswald, Mad Humanist, Sir_Norbert
The Index of the Giant's Comments VI - Now Up to 50% On Topic	10	Gwynfrid, Zherog, DataNinja, Fyraltari, Caerulea, Algeh, Rollin, Lissou, Throknor, Doug Lampert
The Index of the Giant's Comments VI - Rich in Comments	9	Gift Jeraff, NobleCuriosity, Caerulea, snowblizz, dmc91356, Algeh, Joerg, Sir_Norbert, mjp1050
The Index of the Giant's Comments VI - Bimonthly Banana Bread at Best	3	Resileaf, Gwynfrid, Schroeswald
The Index of the Giant's Comments VI - The Undiscovered Comment	3	rbetieh, Algeh, Doug Lampert
The Index of the Giant's Comments VI - Making Dogma from a Few Zapped Pines	2	Reboot, b_jonas
The Index of the Giant's Comments VI - The Annotated Edition	1	Fyraltari
The Index of the Giant's Comments VI - The Beginning of the End	1	Quebbster

[pearl jam]

but non-trivial comedy retains humor value even if you're aware of it coming.

+1

If a joke is actually funny (in the estimation of the listener, since this is subjective) there's a good chance they'll find it funny on repeated hearings, too.

[NobleCuriosity]

I’d like to change my title vote from just “Rich in Comments” to ALSO supporting “ The Index of the Giant's Comments VI - Making Dogma from Zapped Bananas” and “ The Index of the Giant's Comments VI - Bimonthly Banana Bread At Best.”

I still love the double pun in “Rich in comments” the best, but those two other titles have really grown on me (and I’m already starting to groan at “That’s what HE said!”).

[nabcif]

"Rich in Comments" is clever, but the joke was already used in the title of Thread IV ("A Rich Source of Quotassium").

Also, I would like to change my vote from simply "Now Up to 50% On Topic" to a vote for "Now Up to 50% On Topic" and a vote for "Making Dogma From Zapped Bananas."

What HE said! Which is not a vote for that title: my votes are:

• The Index of the Giant's Comments VI - Making Dogma from Zapped Bananas
• The Index of the Giant's Comments VI - Now Up to 50% On Topic

(Thank you, Jasdoif, for linking to individual posts so that I could easily make that joke.)

[D.One]

Close to 50 pages. How's our vote? If I'm counting correctly, we have a tie beetween The Index of the Giant's Comments VI - Making Dogma from Zapped Bananas and The Index of the Giant's Comments VI - That's What HE Said.

[Fyraltari]

Ah, screw it, add me to ‘making dogmas from zapped bananas’... as long as it’s not ‘that’s what he said’.

[D.One]

Ah, screw it, add me to ‘making dogmas from zapped bananas’... as long as it’s not ‘that’s what he said’.

I sense so much hatred in your heart... hatred leads to suffering... let it go, my friend...

[Reboot]

Okay, adding a couple of votes to my suggestion. Now:

• The Index of the Giant's Comments VI - Making Dogma from a Few Zapped Pines
• The Index of the Giant's Comments VI - Making Dogma from Zapped Bananas
• The Index of the Giant's Comments VI - Now Up to 50% On Topic

[Fyraltari]

I sense so much hatred in your heart... hatred leads to suffering... let it go, my friend...

Hatred? No. Stern disapproval.

[Sir_Norbert]

I'm with you. Any of the other suggestions are better than paying tribute to a juvenile, misogynist meme.

[HorizonWalker]

I'm with you. Any of the other suggestions are better than paying tribute to a juvenile, misogynist meme.

Juvenile I'll grant you, but I fail to see misogyny in it. Yeah, the joke is "that's what she said," and associates women with sexuality, but quite frankly I don't see how this particular association does it in a harmful way. Some women have sex. And some of those say things in the process.

[Jasdoif]

Okay, so we're at....

Proposed Title	Votes	Voters
The Index of the Giant's Comments VI - Making Dogma from Zapped Bananas	14	137ben, D.One, Squire Doodad, b_jonas, Rollin, super dark33, Emanick, Schroeswald, Mad Humanist, Sir_Norbert, NobleCuriosity, nabcif, Fyraltari, Reboot
The Index of the Giant's Comments VI - That's What HE Said	12	Ron Miel, D.One, HorizonWalker, snowblizz, Bundin, dmc91356, Kish, Joerg, Emanick, Lissou, Doug Lampert, Charybdis136
The Index of the Giant's Comments VI - Now Up to 50% On Topic	11	Gwynfrid, Zherog, DataNinja, Caerulea, Algeh, Rollin, Lissou, Throknor, Doug Lampert, nabcif, Reboot
The Index of the Giant's Comments VI - Rich in Comments	9	Gift Jeraff, Caerulea, snowblizz, dmc91356, Algeh, Joerg, Sir_Norbert, mjp1050, NobleCuriosity
The Index of the Giant's Comments VI - Bimonthly Banana Bread at Best	4	Resileaf, Gwynfrid, Schroeswald, NobleCuriosity
The Index of the Giant's Comments VI - The Undiscovered Comment	3	rbetieh, Algeh, Doug Lampert
The Index of the Giant's Comments VI - Making Dogma from a Few Zapped Pines	2	b_jonas, Reboot
The Index of the Giant's Comments VI - The Beginning of the End	1	Quebbster

[Mad Humanist]

Juvenile I'll grant you, but I fail to see misogyny in it. Yeah, the joke is "that's what she said," and associates women with sexuality, but quite frankly I don't see how this particular association does it in a harmful way. Some women have sex. And some of those say things in the process.

I am not going to vote for the "That's what he said" title. But it is a quote from the comic so I feel any quibbles over the backstory of the meme don't have much merit. If anybody has any issues with the joke why not take it up with Rich directly?

Also it was Belkar saying it.

[D.One]

About the "That's what HE said", thing, I must say that, being a non-native-english speaker, I was quite unfamiliar with the joke, even thought I got the innuendo when Belkar used it. I just thought it could go for both male or female, and that was less a joke about a gender, and more a way to mock on someone who said a phrase that, under a sexual conotation, would be unfavorable to the speaker.

More than that, the reason I liked it for a title was because, on a religious situation, the capitalized HE is used to refer to God, and, as far as OotS is concerned, Word of Rich is Word of God.

[snowblizz]

About the "That's what HE said", thing, I must say that, being a non-native-english speaker, I was quite unfamiliar with the joke, even thought I got the innuendo when Belkar used it. I just thought it could go for both male or female, and that was less a joke about a gender, and more a way to mock on someone who said a phrase that, under a sexual conotation, would be unfavorable to the speaker.

Jokes are what we make of them. At it's fundamentals, it's gender neutral, and in the useage I normally see actually pointed towards men. As in the situation where a guy complains about something being small and friends inject "yeah that's what she said" implying the complainer should possibly worry more about personal inadequcies than some minor detail. That said a very vocal group (of males, naturally) can and will turn it around into some very questionable territory. I've heard it that way too. In other words the joke should be fairly neutrally useable, but the times you really going to hear it loud is likely the more questionable use.

If you understand a double entendre it's not the fault of the one who used it, it's yours for understanding it. I like to think the joke primarily highlights how easy it is to take things out of context, and how "wrong" it goes when we do.

Besides, sometimes being juvenile is the only defence against the madness that are supposed adults. {scrubbed}

[Aidan]

I'll vote for Making Dogma from Zapped Bananas if I may.

[Lissou]

Also not a non=native speaker, but I've been familiar with the joke for many years (despite my first ever episode of The Office being sometime last month), and I concur with it not being misogynistic. It's just an innuendo, and in some contexts I'll say "she", in some I'll say "he" because it makes more sense. Using it as a title, to me, works on so many levels: it's a quote from the comic itself; the thread IS about what Rich has said; and the capitals, as pointed out, have the extra role of showing that Word of Giant is Word of God for the comic. The fact that it also refers to a common joke is just icing on the cake.

[Lord Torath]

Looks like I'm in the minority, but I really like the "Few Zapped Pines" title. It's long (hopefully not long enough to lose a handful of characters when a "Re: " is placed in front of it), but I really like the implication that we forumites have arguments over the most minute details in the comic. Pokes a bit of fun at ourselves.

My second choice (have we considered Ranked Choice voting here?) would be the "Zapped Bananas" title.

[Jasdoif]

I'll vote for Making Dogma from Zapped Bananas if I may.

You are clearly able to post, so you certainly may!

(have we considered Ranked Choice voting here?)

As I mentioned earlier....

This will be approval voting: vote for (and/or propose) as many titles as you like, even if there's only one you like; whichever title has the most people voting for it will be the title of the next thread. In the case of a tie, I will choose one of the tied options.

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Anyway, looks like we're currently at....

Proposed Title	Votes	Voters
The Index of the Giant's Comments VI - Making Dogma from Zapped Bananas	16	137ben, D.One, Squire Doodad, b_jonas, Rollin, super dark33, Emanick, Schroeswald, Mad Humanist, Sir_Norbert, NobleCuriosity, nabcif, Fyraltari, Reboot, Aidan, Lord Torath
The Index of the Giant's Comments VI - That's What HE Said	12	Ron Miel, D.One, HorizonWalker, snowblizz, Bundin, dmc91356, Kish, Joerg, Emanick, Lissou, Doug Lampert, Charybdis136
The Index of the Giant's Comments VI - Now Up to 50% On Topic	11	Gwynfrid, Zherog, DataNinja, Caerulea, Algeh, Rollin, Lissou, Throknor, Doug Lampert, nabcif, Reboot
The Index of the Giant's Comments VI - Rich in Comments	9	Gift Jeraff, Caerulea, snowblizz, dmc91356, Algeh, Joerg, Sir_Norbert, mjp1050, NobleCuriosity
The Index of the Giant's Comments VI - Bimonthly Banana Bread at Best	4	Resileaf, Gwynfrid, Schroeswald, NobleCuriosity
The Index of the Giant's Comments VI - Making Dogma from a Few Zapped Pines	3	b_jonas, Reboot, Lord Torath
The Index of the Giant's Comments VI - The Undiscovered Comment	3	rbetieh, Algeh, Doug Lampert
The Index of the Giant's Comments VI - The Beginning of the End	1	Quebbster

[Sylian]

My votes:
The Index of the Giant's Comments VI - Making Dogma from Zapped Bananas
The Index of the Giant's Comments VI - Now Up to 50% On Topic

[Gwynfrid]

Also not a non=native speaker, but I've been familiar with the joke for many years (despite my first ever episode of The Office being sometime last month), and I concur with it not being misogynistic. It's just an innuendo, and in some contexts I'll say "she", in some I'll say "he" because it makes more sense. Using it as a title, to me, works on so many levels: it's a quote from the comic itself; the thread IS about what Rich has said; and the capitals, as pointed out, have the extra role of showing that Word of Giant is Word of God for the comic. The fact that it also refers to a common joke is just icing on the cake.

This is a well argued post, and I’d like to recognize it by adding one vote for “that’s what HE said”. This isn’t a replacement, but an addition to my earlier vote for “now up to 50% on topic”.

[Fyraltari]

My apologies jasdoif, I wasn't clear, I wish to vote for "making dogma from zapped bananas" in addittion to my votes for "the annotated edition" and "up to 50% on topic".

[Mightymosy]

This is a well argued post, and I’d like to recognize it by adding one vote for “that’s what HE said”. This isn’t a replacement, but an addition to my earlier vote for “now up to 50% on topic”.

I agree
So I vote for that one as well. It really fits well I think.

[Jasdoif]

My apologies jasdoif, I wasn't clear, I wish to vote for "making dogma from zapped bananas" in addittion to my votes for "the annotated edition" and "up to 50% on topic".

So noted.

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Looks like we're currently at....

Proposed Title	Votes	Voters
The Index of the Giant's Comments VI - Making Dogma from Zapped Bananas	17	137ben, D.One, Squire Doodad, b_jonas, Rollin, super dark33, Emanick, Schroeswald, Mad Humanist, Sir_Norbert, NobleCuriosity, nabcif, Reboot, Aidan, Lord Torath, Sylian, Fyraltari
The Index of the Giant's Comments VI - That's What HE Said	14	Ron Miel, D.One, HorizonWalker, snowblizz, Bundin, dmc91356, Kish, Joerg, Emanick, Lissou, Doug Lampert, Charybdis136, Gwynfrid, Mightymosy
The Index of the Giant's Comments VI - Now Up to 50% On Topic	13	Zherog, DataNinja, Caerulea, Algeh, Rollin, Lissou, Throknor, Doug Lampert, nabcif, Reboot, Sylian, Gwynfrid, Fyraltari
The Index of the Giant's Comments VI - Rich in Comments	9	Gift Jeraff, Caerulea, snowblizz, dmc91356, Algeh, Joerg, Sir_Norbert, mjp1050, NobleCuriosity
The Index of the Giant's Comments VI - Bimonthly Banana Bread at Best	3	Resileaf, Schroeswald, NobleCuriosity
The Index of the Giant's Comments VI - Making Dogma from a Few Zapped Pines	3	b_jonas, Reboot, Lord Torath
The Index of the Giant's Comments VI - The Undiscovered Comment	3	rbetieh, Algeh, Doug Lampert
The Index of the Giant's Comments VI - The Annotated Edition	1	Fyraltari
The Index of the Giant's Comments VI - The Beginning of the End	1	Quebbster

[denthor]

Given this group (or any really) I vote for now 50% on topic.

Percentage seems a little high but I love a challenge and under dog.

My ring in the secret compartment of my ring I fill an underdog energy pill. Quote wrong but close from 40 plus years ago.

[JustinKase]

What - no Babylon 5 related titles?

The Index of the Giant's Comments VI - The three edged sword

But, I suppose...

The Index of the Giant's Comments VI - The Avalanche has already started, it is too late for the pebbles to vote.



;)

[InsamNonsoon]

If I may, I’d like to add a vote to Up To 50% On Topic

[Jasdoif]

...Okay, I think three days was enough waiting to see if both of the last two posts on this page would be Making-Dogma-from-Zapped-Bananas-voters removing their votes for "Making Dogma from Zapped Bananas" and voting for "Now Up to 50% On Topic"; the only combination that would change what title won....

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Proposed Title	Votes	Voters
The Index of the Giant's Comments VI - Making Dogma from Zapped Bananas	17	137ben, D.One, Squire Doodad, b_jonas, Rollin, super dark33, Emanick, Schroeswald, Mad Humanist, Sir_Norbert, NobleCuriosity, nabcif, Reboot, Aidan, Lord Torath, Sylian, Fyraltari
The Index of the Giant's Comments VI - Now Up to 50% On Topic	15	Zherog, DataNinja, Caerulea, Algeh, Rollin, Lissou, Throknor, Doug Lampert, nabcif, Reboot, Sylian, Gwynfrid, Fyraltari, denthor, InsamNonsoon
The Index of the Giant's Comments VI - That's What HE Said	14	Ron Miel, D.One, HorizonWalker, snowblizz, Bundin, dmc91356, Kish, Joerg, Emanick, Lissou, Doug Lampert, Charybdis136, Gwynfrid, Mightymosy
The Index of the Giant's Comments VI - Rich in Comments	9	Gift Jeraff, Caerulea, snowblizz, dmc91356, Algeh, Joerg, Sir_Norbert, mjp1050, NobleCuriosity
The Index of the Giant's Comments VI - Bimonthly Banana Bread at Best	3	Resileaf, Schroeswald, NobleCuriosity
The Index of the Giant's Comments VI - Making Dogma from a Few Zapped Pines	3	b_jonas, Reboot, Lord Torath
The Index of the Giant's Comments VI - The Undiscovered Comment	3	rbetieh, Algeh, Doug Lampert
The Index of the Giant's Comments VI - The Annotated Edition	1	Fyraltari
The Index of the Giant's Comments VI - The Beginning of the End	1	Quebbster
The Index of the Giant's Comments VI - The Three Edged Sword	1	JustinKase

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