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    Default Re: The Index of the Giant's Comments V―On a Saner Forum, We Wouldn't Need this Index

    Quote Originally Posted by Rodin View Post
    I didn't realize the "V's Children are adopted" quote was up for removal. I firmly oppose that one being removed.

    A) It's non-obvious that's why he did it...or at least, I didn't know it until Word of Giant came down and found it interesting at the time.

    B) It's not something that can be answered in-comic or by referring to a particular page.

    C) It's about the writing process, which firmly places it in "relevant" territory.

    D) Did I mention it's really interesting?

    E) The original proposal was not to remove, but to modify the index entry to make it clear that V's kids are stated to be adopted in-comic, and the quote is clarifying the writing process. I haven't seen anyone specifically say they want it removed (although paging through 4 pages of posts makes it easy to miss something...my respect for our illustrious banana grows).
    I completely missed this as well - I had interpreted the original post to mean it should be kept in as a Writing Process quote. I definitely do not support removing it - while we know in comic the kids are adopted, The Giant clarifying that it was to leave the potential that V and Inkyrius are the same sex open is noteworthy information, IMO.

    (I still need to catch up on the rest of the thread.)
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    Default Re: The Index of the Giant's Comments V―On a Saner Forum, We Wouldn't Need this Index

    Quote Originally Posted by DaggerPen View Post
    I completely missed this as well - I had interpreted the original post to mean it should be kept in as a Writing Process quote. I definitely do not support removing it - while we know in comic the kids are adopted, The Giant clarifying that it was to leave the potential that V and Inkyrius are the same sex open is noteworthy information, IMO.
    So noted. It's probably safe from removal at this point.


    Anyway, since I managed to post at the bottom of a page again....In any case anyone didn't see the last page, there's official-y stuff going on:

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    UPDATE COMING, CALLING FOR PMs TO REQUIRE VOTES

    Anyone thinking the entry marked "Accepting PMs to require vote" should not be included in the Index should send me a private message, saying the entry should require a vote. (The default is to include, an item not voted on will be included in the Index.) If I get PMs from two or more people about the particular entry, it will be voted on to decide inclusion; the vote will be the next stage, and I'll announce it when the vote is ready.

    A couple of the quotes below reached strong consensus already. A vote is considered unnecessary in these cases, so they will be included.

    Proposed Items for Index 5.1
    The OotS Strips in Gygax Magazine Will Be in a Collection Someday #1020 01/22/2016 No vote required, will be included.
    Blackwing's Explosion in #1020 is a Scroll Activation Mishap
    Furthermore, the writing on the scroll reads "STRIP #970 P5 ESTABLISHES THAT MAGIC ITEMS EXPLODE WHEN ACTIVATED IMPROPERLY".
    #1020 01/22/2016 Accepting PMs to require vote. PM threshold met, vote required.
    On the Ephemerality of Memories from the Afterlife
    Roy can remember anything that happened in the clouds, and the rest is "fuzzy" but not completely forgotten.
    #1022 02/08/2016 No vote required, will be included.

    PMs will be accepted until March 11th, 9PM EDT already. I'll try to update the table if/when entries get sufficient PMs.

    To send me a PM, click my username (The vaguely-pronounceable(?)-looking word above the spellcasting-and-invocation-using banana with purple hair) and select "Private Message". Or I guess you could click here. Anyway, include the title of the entry you're nominating in the message. Mentioning something about "Index Nomination" in the subject line would be helpful.

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    Further discussion of entries is encouraged at this point. In particular, recommendations for different titles and descriptions for the quote entries are things I'd be happy to consider.
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    Default Re: The Index of the Giant's Comments V―On a Saner Forum, We Wouldn't Need this Index

    I don't THINK my phone is acting up...is that second quote by someone other than Rich?

    And if so, is this the first time a non-Rich quote is being added to the Index?

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    Default Re: The Index of the Giant's Comments V―On a Saner Forum, We Wouldn't Need this Index

    Well that was fast. Usually is....ANYWAY.

    Item up for voting:





    • Please bold your yes/no votes, it'll make it easier for me to notice when I go through and count everything.
    • Please avoid discussing the quote itself, outside of giving an explanation for your vote in the same post as your vote. This'll make it easier to catch up after the vote, if a new quote comes along while we're still voting.
    • Per Rule F4, inclusion by vote requires a quote to have two more votes in favor than votes against.


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    Quote Originally Posted by littlebum2002 View Post
    I don't THINK my phone is acting up...is that second quote by someone other than Rich?
    It is indeed a post made by someone other than the Giant.

    Quote Originally Posted by littlebum2002 View Post
    And if so, is this the first time a non-Rich quote is being added to the Index?
    It's not the first time a supporting reference that wasn't a quote by the Giant has been proposed, no:

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    The Giant Applauding 5E D&D's Acknowledgement of Diversity
    Specifically, how the core rules take into account gender, gender identity, and sexuality; as referred to the article here.
    #958 07/24/2014

    But whether it's actually being added is an entirely different question, due to the vote being called on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jasdoif View Post
    Well that was fast. Usually is....ANYWAY.

    Item up for voting:

    I vote for inclusion
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    I vote include!

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    Default Re: The Index of the Giant's Comments V―On a Saner Forum, We Wouldn't Need this Index

    In the spirit of making my vote different, apparently.... no.
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    I vote no, for reasons discussed earlier.
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    Yes for inclusion.
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    Default Re: The Index of the Giant's Comments V―On a Saner Forum, We Wouldn't Need this Index

    No

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    But really, the important lesson here is this: Rather than making assumptions that don't fit with the text and then complaining about the text being wrong, why not just choose different assumptions that DO fit with the text?
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    my vote is Yes

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    No.

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    It is unneeded. No.


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    I vote no to inclusion.
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    Sticking to my earlier position: Yes.

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    I am voting No

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    I vote Yes.
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    I vote yes, because it's a pair of non-obvious comments from the Giant that answer a question that people repeatedly asked about the comic.

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    I vote YES

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    Yes.......

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    Yes, include it.
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    I'll vote No.
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    Yes, emphatically.
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    Yes, include.

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    Always in favour of more inclusiveness :P
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