The Index of the Giant's Comments V―On a Saner Forum, We Wouldn't Need this Index

[Throknor]

yes. Is a vote

[137beth]

I vote YES

Ooh, if there's a tie, can Banjo break the tie?

[Peelee]

Ooh, if there's a tie, can Banjo break the tie?

I propose a new vote that this joke be taken out and shot.

[DataNinja]

I propose a new vote that this joke be taken out and shot.

I second that.

[Jasdoif]

New page, new reminder there's a vote going on:

Item up for voting:

• Blackwing's Explosion in #1020 is a Scroll Activation Mishap

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• Please bold your yes/no votes, it'll make it easier for me to notice when I go through and count everything.
• Please avoid discussing the quote itself, outside of giving an explanation for your vote in the same post as your vote. This'll make it easier to catch up after the vote, if a new quote comes along while we're still voting.
• Per Rule F4, inclusion by vote requires a quote to have two more votes in favor than votes against.

Voting will be open until March 13th, 8PM EDT EST? Eastern Time.

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Ooh, if there's a tie, can Banjo break the tie?

Tie not. Banjo or Banjo not, there is no tie.

(Per Rule F4, a quote with two or more votes in favor than votes against is included, otherwise the quote is excluded; there are no vote scenarios that result in a tie)

[Keltest]

I second that.

I second your seconding. Don't really care what happens to the quote, but this joke needs to be put out of its misery.

[NCoffin]

I vote No to including the quote.

[dps]

Yes to include the scroll activation mishap quote.

[Emanick]

Always in favour of more inclusiveness :P
YES

NO! Join me and vote against inclusiveness! Inclusiveness is bad!

[Jasdoif]

OK.

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• Blackwing's Explosion in #1020 is a Scroll Activation Mishap passed; 19 for, 10 against. It will be included.

All three entries are now in the Index.

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Now then, on the subject of deletions....The tentative list is below. I don't really want to start a vote on the weekend, and it turns out I misunderstood people about the V's Children entry (so that one's not on the list); so if anyone has anything to add at this point, now's the time. Ideally we'll get a vote on removals started some time tomorrow.

Entries Suggested for Removal
Protection from Law is Illegal in Many Places	#969	12/01/2014
Durkon Throws Diamond Dust Durkon threw diamond dust into the air in 844.	#844	03/09/2012
Orrin Draketooth's Daughter She's not Haley.	#816	11/21/2011
Haley's Boots of Speed Yes, she did get them dyed to match her brown/tan garb.	#793	05/29/2011
Elan's Rapiers He has two. His original, and one from Julio Scoundrel.	#723	05/13/2010

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There hasn't been much movement on the subject of codifying removal procedures, so I have to assume it's not a great concern. So as it stands, it'll be run the same way I did the last removal: Each quote will be voted on, with the same two-more-votes-in-favor threshold to keep it as they took to be included in the first place.

[Ron Miel]

Should we include his comments on the fake Kickstarter scam?

http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showt...?481414-Fakery!

[Porthos]

Should we include his comments on the fake Kickstarter scam?

http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showt...?481414-Fakery!

Absolutely not, IMO. At most, it is a PSA to the greater Internet community out there, and just isn't part of the focus of this Index.

And it might tread into Forbidden Topics, like Rich's Business Dealings. Best just to stay far far away from it, IMO.

[factotum]

Definitely not--it's not related to the strip or the plotlines within, and only has a tangential relationship to OotS as a whole. It's specifically the sort of thing we're not supposed to be putting in the index, therefore.

[Markozeta]

No to recent tweets.

[Jasdoif]

Definitely not--it's not related to the strip or the plotlines within, and only has a tangential relationship to OotS as a whole. It's specifically the sort of thing we're not supposed to be putting in the index, therefore.

Exactly. The closest aspect in the entire thing is the lack of any marketing companies being involved with the Kickstarter, which has nothing to do with the comic itself. As such, it fails to qualify under Rule B and thus isn't Index-worthy.

[Ron Miel]

I think it has a place in the Supporting the strip section. At least one person has given them money, presumably thinking they were helping support the strip. The Giant's tweets warn that they have no connection with him, and you won't support the strip by giving them money.

[Peelee]

I think it has a place in the Supporting the strip section. At least one person has given them money, presumably thinking they were helping support the strip. The Giant's tweets warn that they have no connection with him, and you won't support the strip by giving them money.

While I support the idea of people not getting scammed, the Giant could have made a large news post of the main page, a stickied thread, or any number of other highly visible warnings about it. He did not. If you believe we should shoulder some responsibility to notify people of the potential for scam, you could always start a new thread for it, or sig it, but trying to shoehorn it into a thread where it doesn't belong is not the right approach, IMO.

Also, as far as my understanding, nobody has given money under the assumption that they were supporting the strip; the bait is that they will help get more exposure for the target's own kickstarter. It requires a rather large mental leap to assume that in any way would support the strip, even under the assumption that the scamming company is legit.

[Jasdoif]

Not to break up the conversation on the applicability of Rule B, but I've got official-esque stuff to get started.

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CALLING FOR CONFIRMATION VOTE ON MULTIPLE QUOTES

The inclusion of the posts below have been challenged. This vote will determine whether they remain in the Index or not.

The quotes are as follows:

• A: Protection from Law is Illegal in Many Places
• B: Durkon Throws Diamond Dust (Durkon threw diamond dust into the air in 844.)
• C: Orrin Draketooth's Daughter (She's not Haley.)
• D: Haley's Boots of Speed (Yes, she did get them dyed to match her brown/tan garb.)
• E: Elan's Rapiers (He has two. His original, and one from Julio Scoundrel.)

Since we've had confusion on this before, the vote will be for which ones to keep, rather than yes or no. Simply vote "keep" for the quotes you support keeping; you don't have to mention ones you want removed (though you can vote "remove" on them if you prefer). If you want to make my job difficult really don't care about particular quotes, you can vote "no opinion" on those.

You can vote individually ("Keep A, Keep C") or in a group ("Keep B, D, E"). "Keep all" is also a valid vote, as is "Remove all". ("No opinion on all" would be the same as not voting.)

• Please bold your vote, it'll make it easier for me to notice when I go through and count everything.
• The usual suggestion to avoid discussing quotes during the vote does not apply in this case.
• Per Rule F4, inclusion by vote requires a quote to have two more votes to keep than votes to remove.

Voting will be open until March 16th, 9PM EDT.

[Jaxzan Proditor]

Keep A, B, E.

[Grey_Wolf_c]

Remove All

Grey Wolf

[DataNinja]

Keep A; Remove, B, C, D, E.

[Peelee]

Remove All

[Ron Miel]

Remove All

[Porthos]

Keep AllThis Space Intentionally Left Blank

[Gray Mage]

Remove all. Clean up some of the clutter.

[Lissou]

Remove all

[ZMiles]

remove all

[Emanick]

Keep A, remove the others.

[SaintRidley]

Keep all of them.

[Quild]

Remove All.