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**Ivellius** · 2016-03-15, 02:28 PM (ISO 8601)

League of Legends LXVI: Hosted by Jhin_In_Tonic and Starring Aurelion LOL

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**Djinn_in_Tonic** · 2016-03-15, 02:33 PM (ISO 8601)

I like this title!

**Ivellius** · 2016-03-15, 02:59 PM (ISO 8601)

Originally Posted by Djinn_in_Tonic

I like this title!

You know, it would have been more appropriate if I'd made you make the thread.

**Forum Explorer** · 2016-03-15, 03:19 PM (ISO 8601)

Regarding the skill differences, I think there's a difference between mistakes and stupid choices. Anyone can make a mistake, or a bad call, but there's that special kind of stupidity you can get in Bronze where someone keeps going in again and again. It didn't work the last 3 times you tried, why do you think you'll survive the dive this time? sort of stupidity.

**Siosilvar** · 2016-03-15, 04:19 PM (ISO 8601)

Originally Posted by Forum Explorer

Regarding the skill differences, I think there's a difference between mistakes and stupid choices. Anyone can make a mistake, or a bad call, but there's that special kind of stupidity you can get in Bronze where someone keeps going in again and again. It didn't work the last 3 times you tried, why do you think you'll survive the dive this time? sort of stupidity.

As a former Platinum player, that's not even remotely unique to Bronze. I do that all the damn time, and so do my opponents.

**Dallas-Dakota** · 2016-03-15, 04:23 PM (ISO 8601)

Agreed. high gold/low plat player here and I do a lot of stupid stuff.

**Djinn_in_Tonic** · 2016-03-15, 04:35 PM (ISO 8601)

Originally Posted by Siosilvar

As a former Platinum player, that's not even remotely unique to Bronze. I do that all the damn time, and so do my opponents.

Yep. The platinum player may dive with more mechanical skill and may have more of an effect due to better knowledge of timing / positioning / enemy vulnerabilities / etc, but they'll be just as dead at the end, and often equally disinclined to learn.

I'd say many Bronze players are actually MORE cautious, because they're not used to carry games on their own, and thus may be more hesitant to go full hero mode into a team.

I know a lot of my deaths against Plat+ opponents come from overestimating my own ability compared to the opposition: I assume I can carry hard like I can in many silver-gold games, and realize I should have accounted for opponents who are equal or better players than I.

**Dienekes** · 2016-03-15, 04:38 PM (ISO 8601)

Originally Posted by Forum Explorer

Regarding the skill differences, I think there's a difference between mistakes and stupid choices. Anyone can make a mistake, or a bad call, but there's that special kind of stupidity you can get in Bronze where someone keeps going in again and again. It didn't work the last 3 times you tried, why do you think you'll survive the dive this time? sort of stupidity.

I've never played ranked but regularly play with a group that ranges silver to platinum. I can say everyone I play with does it. But the play player maybe a little less.

I'm trying to work on not jumping in stupidly. That and mini-map awareness are my current problems.

**Ashen Lilies** · 2016-03-15, 04:55 PM (ISO 8601)

Originally Posted by Siosilvar

As a former Platinum player, that's not even remotely unique to Bronze. I do that all the damn time, and so do my opponents.

I've run into a string of Gold/Plat level Lucian players that win lane really hard, but end up throwing the game because they constantly dash in 1v4 and expect to outplay and kill everyone. Basically the whole Vaynespotting meme, except with a more in meta champion.

**Forum Explorer** · 2016-03-15, 04:58 PM (ISO 8601)

Originally Posted by Siosilvar

As a former Platinum player, that's not even remotely unique to Bronze. I do that all the damn time, and so do my opponents.

Don't kill my dreams Sio

**9mm** · 2016-03-15, 07:06 PM (ISO 8601)

Originally Posted by Forum Explorer

Don't kill my dreams Sio

Remember the further up the ladder you climb, the deeper into elo hell you go.

**Olinser** · 2016-03-15, 07:28 PM (ISO 8601)

Should we start a list of Clubs and who is owner of each in the OP going forward?

**Lethologica** · 2016-03-15, 07:34 PM (ISO 8601)

Originally Posted by 9mm

Remember the further up the ladder you climb, the deeper into elo hell you go.

As immortalized here, long ago, when the world was newly formed.

**TechnOkami** · 2016-03-15, 08:44 PM (ISO 8601)

Originally Posted by Djinn_in_Tonic

I like this title!

You're welcome.

**Artanis** · 2016-03-15, 10:56 PM (ISO 8601)

Yay! I helped name a thread!

**Siosilvar** · 2016-03-15, 11:14 PM (ISO 8601)

Originally Posted by Forum Explorer

Don't kill my dreams Sio

I am the crusher of dreams! With my right fist I destroy Elo hell, and with my left hand I sweep away Elo heaven! All that remains are two words, Zen-like in their simplicity that contains the universe:

git gud

**YossarianLives** · 2016-03-15, 11:28 PM (ISO 8601)

Originally Posted by Siosilvar

git gud

Truer words have seldom been spoken by the tongues of humankind.

**TechnOkami** · 2016-03-16, 12:00 AM (ISO 8601)

B-but Sio-sensei! I don't understand why I'm getting dunked and called a scrub all of the time! Why do they keep screaming about Salt and Rage? I don't understand!

q-q

**Djinn_in_Tonic** · 2016-03-16, 12:05 AM (ISO 8601)

So I suspect this patch may have also upped the difficulty of earning an S.

What makes me say this? A 23:17 minute surrender by the enemy team in the face of us knocking at their Nexus towers while I was 9/0/10 Sejuani on a team with only 26 kills (a 73% participation rate).

What did it give me? A measly A. What gives, Mastery System?

**EternalMelon** · 2016-03-16, 12:35 AM (ISO 8601)

Originally Posted by Djinn_in_Tonic

So I suspect this patch may have also upped the difficulty of earning an S.

What makes me say this? A 23:17 minute surrender by the enemy team in the face of us knocking at their Nexus towers while I was 9/0/10 Sejuani on a team with only 26 kills (a 73% participation rate).

What did it give me? A measly A. What gives, Mastery System?

~~CS better~~ Get gud.

Both games I've played today had an S rank, one of them on support.

No B+'s yet though, fingers crossed.

**Dallas-Dakota** · 2016-03-16, 12:53 AM (ISO 8601)

Originally Posted by EternalMelon

~~CS better~~ Get gud.

Both games I've played today had an S rank, one of them on support.

No B+'s yet though, fingers crossed.

Maybe Riot now only gives S ranks to support (mains) to encourage supporting more.

**TechnOkami** · 2016-03-16, 01:49 AM (ISO 8601)

Is Hextech Annie going to be one of those skins that are only acquirable through the new Hextech Crafting System, or will it actually be purchasable?

**Forum Explorer** · 2016-03-16, 02:02 AM (ISO 8601)

I saw a 3 S's in one game. No I didn't get any of them.

On the other hand I've had 3 disconnects in my last 5 games, one of them me. Each time it takes about 5-8 minutes for a reconnect and by then an almost insurmountable lead has been gained by the enemy team.

Now LoL has always had the occasional dc here and there. So am I just getting really unlucky, or are you guys also noticing a bunch of dc's in your games as well?

**Duck999** · 2016-03-16, 05:47 AM (ISO 8601)

Am I correct in saying that mastery levels on champions (at least (maybe 4 and) 5) gets you hex tech crafting stuff?

If so, I am very mad because last weak I got my mastery on at least three champions.

ON DCs:
Last week (Maybe 2 weeks ago?) I got at least one dc per ranked game (that was always on my team). They tended to come back, but only after 10-ish minutes. I haven't been getting as many recently.

**Vogie** · 2016-03-16, 08:21 AM (ISO 8601)

I now realize I'm not on "the list". Vogie NA

Still in my promos 'cause I'm dragging my feet. Not as bad as my top laner last ranked game who didn't buy boots.

Originally Posted by TechnOkami

Is Hextech Annie going to be one of those skins that are only acquirable through the new Hextech Crafting System, or will it actually be purchasable?

They've said she's only craftable. Technically, since you can purchase the crafting keys and crates, she **can** be purchased, but that's not the intention. I think if you actually price everything out in RP she's the most expensive skin.

**Ivellius** · 2016-03-16, 08:35 AM (ISO 8601)

Originally Posted by Duck999

Am I correct in saying that mastery levels on champions (at least (maybe 4 and) 5) gets you hex tech crafting stuff?

If so, I am very mad because last weak I got my mastery on at least three champions.

Not connected at all in that way. You get a chest for a champion if you (or someone in your premade group) gets any kind of S rank in a game, but your overall champion mastery score doesn't have anything to do with it. The assumption is having more games on a champion would improve your chances of a high ranking, though.

Originally Posted by Vogie

I now realize I'm not on "the list". Vogie NA

Still in my promos 'cause I'm dragging my feet. Not as bad as my top laner last ranked game who didn't buy boots.

Added.

If it makes you feel better, I usually put off Ranked until the very end of the season.

**Madcrafter** · 2016-03-16, 09:18 AM (ISO 8601)

Originally Posted by Ivellius

If it makes you feel better, I usually put off Ranked until the very end of the season.

The best strategy. "Oh what, the season ends in four days? Time to see if we can get to <insert desired rank here>!" Then play like twenty-odd games before Tuesday.

Thanks to the new queue, this time around I've actually gotten a head start. Still haven't played ranked in a few weeks, but really ahead of the game this time around by being placed in February.

**thracian** · 2016-03-16, 09:59 AM (ISO 8601)

I literally played my 10 placements the last possible day in the last two seasons. I gave myself an extra two days in S3 because I was pretty sure I wouldn't place Gold and wanted to be able to play enough games to get the skin.

**Djinn_in_Tonic** · 2016-03-16, 11:08 AM (ISO 8601)

Originally Posted by EternalMelon

~~CS better~~

I'd agree, were I not 300 gold above my team's next highest, 1.2K above the guy after that, and 2.2K above anyone on the enemy team.

Get gud.

A more reasonable request.

**YossarianLives** · 2016-03-16, 11:44 AM (ISO 8601)

I don't think it has much to do with CS - I went 12/0 as Nasus with 247 CS last game and only got an A.

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