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    Default Elves meditating in heavy armor

    Since Elves Meditate and no not need to sleep, does an elf wearing medium or heavy armor avoid becoming fatigued the next day if they meditate in it, since they are not actually sleeping?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yogibear41 View Post
    Since Elves Meditate and no not need to sleep, does an elf wearing medium or heavy armor avoid becoming fatigued the next day if they meditate in it, since they are not actually sleeping?
    Yep. Tehy don't sleep, ergo they don't sleep in heavy armor, ergo they don't get fatigued.
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    Default Re: Elves meditating in heavy armor

    I'd argue that the weight will still get them fatigued for not resting without the armor, even if they don't "sleep".

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    Default Re: Elves meditating in heavy armor

    I guess there might be different answers depending on if you go by RAW, or RAI.

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    Default Re: Elves meditating in heavy armor

    But what even is RAI? Personally, I'd assume that:
    1) The "trance instead of sleep" ability is presented as a benefit.
    2) If you can't be any more prepared for trouble than a sleeping person, it's not much of a benefit.

    Therefore, RAI is that you can trance in armor.

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    Default Re: Elves meditating in heavy armor

    Quote Originally Posted by icefractal View Post
    But what even is RAI? Personally, I'd assume that:
    1) The "trance instead of sleep" ability is presented as a benefit.
    2) If you can't be any more prepared for trouble than a sleeping person, it's not much of a benefit.

    Therefore, RAI is that you can trance in armor.
    Unless the benefit was that they only require half the time other races do, and the fact that they trance rather than sleep is just fluff.

    Personally, I would think that the RAI is that prolonged rest while wearing heavier armour causes fatigue, regardless of what specific form that rest takes.

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    Default Re: Elves meditating in heavy armor

    I'd just let them rest. They're elves. Let them have a useful ability. Then again, gletting them have a useful ability is probably against the RAI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yogibear41 View Post
    Since Elves Meditate and no not need to sleep, does an elf wearing medium or heavy armor avoid becoming fatigued the next day if they meditate in it, since they are not actually sleeping?
    Can anybody say where I can find rules on "elves meditation"? I only can find rules for sleep imuninty. Sure I know the they meditate for half the time rule, but where does it come from? I can't find it atm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gruftzwerg View Post
    Can anybody say where I can find rules on "elves meditation"? I only can find rules for sleep imuninty. Sure I know the they meditate for half the time rule, but where does it come from? I can't find it atm.
    It's flavour text for elves in the players handbook.
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    Default Re: Elves meditating in heavy armor

    It's also mentioned in the Nightmare spell:

    Creatures who don’t sleep (such as elves, but not half-elves) or dream are immune to this spell.
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    But really, the important lesson here is this: Rather than making assumptions that don't fit with the text and then complaining about the text being wrong, why not just choose different assumptions that DO fit with the text?
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