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2016-04-29, 01:27 AM (ISO 8601)
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Wheel of Time TV series to actually happen
Just announced today - Wheel of Time is going to go ahead as a TV series. Legal battles revolving around the plot have been resolved.
http://io9.gizmodo.com/the-wheel-of-...all-1773693457
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2016-04-29, 01:37 AM (ISO 8601)
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Huh. I've always thought it would take something with the run time of a TV serial to do Wheel of Time justice in a video format, but there's just so much detail in all the lengthy interwoven plot lines that it would be very easy to miss important things. I'm hopeful it will be done well, especially with the enormous resources a series this well known should attract, but whichever studio it is really has their work cut out for them.
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2016-04-29, 02:03 AM (ISO 8601)
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I'm happy with this. Though the twin possibilities of it being on a network unavailable to me and/or simply being of low quality remain, at the very least no one's trying to cram it into a movie format and in this specific case I'd prefer seeing the attempt even if it doesn't live up to my expectations - it would actually be interesting to critique it one way or another.
I'll be especially curious to see casting news.
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2016-04-29, 02:09 AM (ISO 8601)
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There's certainly a risk it could go either way, eh?
I'm most interested to see who will be running the show and what elements they decide to change. After all, this is a different world to the one Jordan lived in. There are a lot of things that probably should get changed.Lydia Seaspray by Oneris!
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2016-04-29, 02:29 AM (ISO 8601)
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2016-04-29, 02:45 AM (ISO 8601)
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2016-04-29, 02:58 AM (ISO 8601)
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2016-04-29, 03:35 AM (ISO 8601)
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2016-04-29, 03:56 AM (ISO 8601)
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2016-04-29, 03:58 AM (ISO 8601)
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Honestly the series is not lacking in either. It doesn't dwell on them in the same way ASOAIF does, it tries to keep the focus on what's going on rather than the horrors of what's happening... but there should be plenty enough of both to satisfy the general audience.
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2016-04-29, 03:58 AM (ISO 8601)
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2016-04-29, 04:36 AM (ISO 8601)
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Real nudity is usually both horrifying and understated. Fictional nudity is entertaining.
Though, that said, you could probably do WoT within the general constraints of prime-time network television without altering much of its content in any discernible fashion, which would be a plus distribution-wise.
Not saying that's the route they should take, not really sure if trying to paint the series as being purely for adult audiences would serve much purpose though.
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2016-04-29, 06:12 AM (ISO 8601)
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2016-04-29, 06:40 AM (ISO 8601)
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What do people think the chances are of some of the story's proper nouns being changed for an audio-visual medium? It's painful enough to read them, but I suspect many would sound flat-out ludicrous/anvillicious if said aloud. On the other hand, perhaps that goes beyond what's acceptable for an 'adaptation'?
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2016-04-29, 06:48 AM (ISO 8601)
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2016-04-29, 06:58 AM (ISO 8601)
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Off the top of my head:
Darkfriend (maybe it's just me, but that has to be the dumbest name ever)
Tar Valon
Caemlyn
Morgase
Gawyn
Galad
Artur Paendrag
Lanfear (I found it cheesy. Maybe the amount of French spoken among the wider anglophone market is small enough for this not to matter)
Perrin (given the similarity to Merry & Pippin)
Uno (no amount of intimidating eyepatches can make up for the fact that he's a brightly-coloured card game)Last edited by Ninja_Prawn; 2016-04-29 at 07:54 AM.
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2016-04-29, 07:07 AM (ISO 8601)
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You're probably reading too much into it Ninja_Prawn. Do you feel other names in other languages are silly too? Do you think that it sounds ridiculous whenever someone mentions the city of Paris? Or Beijing? Tar Valon or Caemlyn are simply names for cities in another language. Darkfriend might sound a little strange, but I suspect viewers will be accustomed to it eventually just like it's not strange whenever somene mentions White Walkers from Game of Thrones anymore.
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2016-04-29, 07:19 AM (ISO 8601)
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No. Well, I mean, it grates on me slightly when people use English pronunciations instead of the native ones, but that's a different issue.
Avalon? Camelot? It's a little on-the-nose, don't you think? And 'White Walker' may be clumsy, but it's made up for by 'Other', which is a great name, and the general quality of naming elsewhere in Martin's setting besides.Lydia Seaspray by Oneris!
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2016-04-29, 09:30 AM (ISO 8601)
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Eh none of them really sound odd, Darkfriend is a very sensible shortening of "Friend of the Dark"
Everything Tar Valon and Artur Pendrag are..close enough to the real life thing to be "Oh..I get what this is."
Lanfear is technically a word from the Old Tounge so it should sound strange.
Perrin..meh it sounds okay
Uno gets a pass, because in the show there are moments that will be ABSOLUTELY great to hear in full Dialogue
SpoilerThere is a little arc where Uno and Nyneave are working together..and she forbids him from Swearing.
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2016-04-29, 09:31 AM (ISO 8601)
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Uno is a proper male name in Scandinavia, nameday 14th August in Sweden. The 10,000+ men named so might not appreciate being referred to as a card game.
Also, you do understand that the similarity of some things to existing legends is the entire point of it? At least half of those you lsit are used solely becasue they are similar to the arthruian legends. Importnat for that whole, we are just another cycle of wheel's turning. Our Legends and Myths are maybe inspired by the real Arthur, Galad an Gawyn....
Also what pronounciation should one use? Isn't it awfully pretentious to stick in a "Pari" with a mangled French accent in the middle of your other language. We've been raiding Paris since the 9th century, we call it Pari*S* if we want to. And that's beside the ones which might be near impossible for another language to pronounce (making sounds your own language lacks is rather hard).
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2016-04-29, 09:43 AM (ISO 8601)
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It also helps that Artur..is infact actually King friggin Arthur Pendragon, just with a different name in the third age.
Spoilers for Book 2
SpoilerWhen the heroes are first summoned, they go through several of the names that some of them have and some are current era names
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2016-04-29, 10:00 AM (ISO 8601)
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That's part of the point. Tar Valon, in the Third Age, left memories that became legend. Legend fades to myth as Ages come and pass, and by the time the "real world" comes around (the First Age, out of seven in the cycle) the myths are well and truly faded and generally believed to be nearly pure fiction.
Same idea with many of the other names and references. In Wheel of Time, those names aren't distorted references to old myths, they are the true historical origin of those myths and it's the mythical versions of the names that are distorted references.Like 4X (aka Civilization-like) gaming? Know programming? Interested in game development? Take a look.
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2016-04-29, 10:46 AM (ISO 8601)
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I don't have a problem with any of the names.
Also, if anyone wants more background on the morons that owned the rights up until now, there's a decent summary here.
Book 6? Try Book 1! Rand went full-on nephalem in the Gap. That would make a great "wham" scene to set up the High Fantasy to come.
I'd also love supreme Body Horror moments in Shadar Logoth when Mashadar munches some shadowspawn.
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2016-04-29, 10:53 AM (ISO 8601)
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2016-04-29, 11:13 AM (ISO 8601)
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2016-04-29, 06:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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2016-04-29, 06:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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My only concern is that if they wanted to do the whole thing, they'd need to cryogenically freeze the cast between seasons, and that's not even getting into the Aes Sedai ageless look. Also hope for a lot of seasons. But it's WOT and I love it and I'll watch it even if it's done with community theatre production values! I really want it to be good, but I'll enjoy it and keep watching even if it isn't. Hell, I played that terrible first person shooter back in the day (and loved doing it!)
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2016-04-29, 06:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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2016-04-29, 06:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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Honestly as much as I doubt it'll happen, I hope it ends up a CG/animated series, rather than live action.
Also, the cast aging up as seasons go on would be a good thing IMO, provided the wrote the adaptation to account for it. All of the book events taking place over the span of 3 years (with 2 years of that happening in the first few books) always felt wrong to me. Then again, events rushing to a head faster than anyone could have anticipated is kind of the point. I dunno, I'm torn.
On the bright side, unlike with Game of Thrones, none of the main cast is actually children, and age differentials simply aren't as profound once you get out of the child/early teen age range.If my text is blue, I'm being sarcastic.But you already knew that, right?
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2016-04-29, 06:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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I've always thought that the only way to properly do Wheel of Time justice is to do it animated. All the magic and the beastly monsters they will face will kill any tv-series budget in the first episode. Do it animated and you avoid all of that right away. I have dreamt of the guys behind Jin-Roh to get their hands on the rights to Wheel of Time for a long time, here's a taste of their style. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lrl...utu.be&t=2m22s