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    Default The seductress niche; What all fills it?

    Within pathfinder, what all fulfills the role of seductress in various groups (daemons, demons, aberrations, fey, ect.)?
    Succubus is the most obvious, which covers one for demons, but what about other things?


    In addition, what group of creatures doesn't have that niche filled but you think could or even should?



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    Fey: Satyr
    Outsider (Azata): Gancanagh
    Outsider (Daemon): Erodaemon
    Outsider (Demon): Succubus
    Outsider (Kyton): Ostiarius
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    Default Re: The seductress niche; What all fills it?

    Nymphs, satyrs, fauns... For the fey
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    +1 if the character doesn't rely on magic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guigarci View Post
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    Default Re: The seductress niche; What all fills it?

    The paladin. Immune to poisons and diseases, and based on Charisma, paladins are the whores of the gods.
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    Default Re: The seductress niche; What all fills it?

    What of daemons? devils? other fiends? celestial entities? creatures of the dark tapestry, or other aberrations? so on and so forth?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xuldarinar View Post
    What of daemons? devils? other fiends? celestial entities? creatures of the dark tapestry, or other aberrations? so on and so forth?
    Paladins are utterly bereft of one of the most critical emotions for survival: fear. I'd say that qualifies them as aberrations; wouldn't you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaxiDuRaritry View Post
    Paladins are utterly bereft of one of the most critical emotions for survival: fear. I'd say that qualifies them as aberrations; wouldn't you?
    No. Aberrations can know fear.

    And, oozes are immune to fear as well. Shouldn't paladins then be oozes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xuldarinar View Post
    No. Aberrations can know fear.

    And, oozes are immune to fear as well. Shouldn't paladins then be oozes?
    So... who wants to stat up Sir Squish, the Gelatinous Cube-valier?

    Also, I'd like to point out for daemons that there was an article written a long time ago by somebody theorizing that Erinyes and Succubi are both actually a type of daemon in disguise, and that their true form was a weird humanoid leech, but that they could seduce basically anyone.
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    Default Re: The seductress niche; What all fills it?

    Some Azata are described as seductive/flirtatious, e.g. Lillends and Gancanaghs.

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    +1 if the character doesn't rely on magic.

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    Paladins are utterly bereft of one of the most critical emotions for survival: fear. I'd say that qualifies them as aberrations; wouldn't you?
    Being immune to something and not feeling it are two different things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by inuyasha View Post
    So... who wants to stat up Sir Squish, the Gelatinous Cube-valier?

    Also, I'd like to point out for daemons that there was an article written a long time ago by somebody theorizing that Erinyes and Succubi are both actually a type of daemon in disguise, and that their true form was a weird humanoid leech, but that they could seduce basically anyone.
    I found the perfect picture for that (here, because it is too big)


    Well, that covers the three primary fiendish races.

    So, what about aberrations? I could see them, if they exist, being associated with Shub-nigurath. But.. doesn't mean they have to be.

    And.. what about the higher planes? Surely good must have caught on at some point that it sells.
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    Erodaemons

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    Default Re: The seductress niche; What all fills it?

    What fills the seductress niche? Dragons. Always dragons. There's a reason there are so many half-dragon everythings around.

    Because size does matter.

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    Default Re: The seductress niche; What all fills it?

    #issei_hyodou he is the reason i made demon hunter class

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    Default Re: The seductress niche; What all fills it?

    I just made a list of some, influenced by the comments here. Erinyes are not in the list in the original post because: "Yet despite their beauty, erinyes are not seducers—they lack the subtlety and patience required for such fine emotional manipulations, and instead vastly prefer to solve their problems with swift and excruciating violence."

    I did however put in some forms of dragon. Though, most half-dragons are by magical experiment, not by dragons and other creatures...

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    Default Re: The seductress niche; What all fills it?

    I wouldn't classify Nymphs as a seducer. They may be lusted after, but they don't seduce as part of their modus operandi. I mean, a succubus uses Sex as a weapon and a means to an end. Pleasure Devils in 3.5 work that way too. I don't see Nymphs being RPed that way from their monster manual entry. In fact when you look at one you might go blind!

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    Default Re: The seductress niche; What all fills it?

    Did any one try to think this
    Lets say party goes in to tavern for staying paladin goes in to his room and starts praying and suddenly hears sounds from next room goes to check whats going on and founds his warlock buddy banging one of the local priestess. So he uses detect evil and to his shock no evil ping on good old radar asks whats going on with aura of truth and to his shock priestess revels to be working as divine ( lets not name this part) on local church
    Think about the brain bleach on paladin poor sap just betrayed by his own order

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