Jojo's Bizarre Adventure; Part I: We're Lacking Poses!

[Yael]

He's the best JoJo. Sure, he's pretty low-powered, but nothing has overcome the awesome of when he

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Crashed a plane into the ultimate lifeform to push said demigod into a volcano.

Also: was Last Train Home.

Yea, right, he also;

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Taunted said demigod into talking instead of dodging volcanic rocks (or his lost arm), leading to its doom, while it wasn't planned at all. But for the sake of the lulz. Ah, I just love Joseph.

JOSEPH JOESTAR #1! Such cleverness.

Joseph Joestar = Best JoJo!

[LaZodiac]

Yea, right, he also;

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Taunted said demigod into talking instead of dodging volcanic rocks (or his lost arm), leading to its doom, while it wasn't planned at all. But for the sake of the lulz. Ah, I just love Joseph.

Joseph Joestar = Best JoJo!

Arguments over best PART will be waged for decades.

Arguments over best JOJO are "It's Joseph".

That's not to say the others aren't good (I love me some delinquint pompadorman who literally punches friendship into people by healing their emotional issues with his stand without realizing it) but Joseph is definitely a tier above everyone else.

[Gastronomie]

Kishibe Rohan might be eccentric, but don't worry. People who met Araki Hirohiko in real life claim he wasn't as eccentric as Rohan.

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Of course, this is because Araki Hirohiko used Heaven's Door to manipulate the memories of the interviewers and made them believe he's a normal person.

[LaZodiac]

Kishibe Rohan might be eccentric, but don't worry. People who met Araki Hirohiko in real life claim he wasn't as eccentric as Rohan.

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Of course, this is because Araki Hirohiko used Heaven's Door to manipulate the memories of the interviewers and made them believe he's a normal person.

You know speaking of eccentric there are two more chapters that are still upcoming that I cannot wait to see animated.

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Everyone's favorite chapter besides Let's All Go For Italian, "What is up with this one guy!" where we meet Earth Wind and Fire's...stand user? And of course, the truly best chapter in all of part 4, Rohan Kishibe meets BOY II MEN.

[Yael]

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I really want to see Reimi animated, she was sort of my favorite character from part IV.

But Kira tho, Useless Jotaro V1.0 Sheer Heart Attack is an arc I really want to see animated.

[gooddragon1]

Some important dio videos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Nct_vRTjlA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhuHIgLWUa0
And a practical alarm clock ringtone (as suggested by someone in the comments section):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSkeqYkd-ng

[LaZodiac]

Finally, it's Friday. Let's go hunting.

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This is an alright episode. Not the best and kind of sudden, but it's got some good moments and some actually pretty funny bits. "I don't really want to ask but...Josuke I've kinda been standing here waiting for you to heal me. Come on."

Next time on Jojo is Rohan's first solo episode. Hell yeah.

[Fri]

In this episode of Shin Megami Jojo: Persona is Unbreakable, the player characters tripped an event flag and got the next main quest from an NPC!

[Yael]

In this episode of Shin Megami Jojo: Persona is Unbreakable, the player characters tripped an event flag and got the next main quest from an NPC!

I love those references~ Still love Jojo more~ (It came out first tho...)

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A 10/10 best ghost waifu appears!

Kishibe Rohan uses Heaven's Door!

It wasn't very effective...

[LaZodiac]

In this episode of Shin Megami Jojo: Persona is Unbreakable, the player characters tripped an event flag and got the next main quest from an NPC!

Alternatively, "hey the plot actually started".

I kid.

[Fri]

I updated my stand generator a bit.

http://orteil.dashnet.org/randomgen/?gen=M9KWsKPc

[Yael]

Alternatively, "hey the plot actually started".

I kid.

Kiddin' or na, plot's starting!

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[Flickerdart]

I updated my stand generator a bit.

http://orteil.dashnet.org/randomgen/?gen=M9KWsKPc

It might need more work.

[Fri]

It might need more work.

about typical amount of sense with most canon stands

[Amaril]

Hey all! So I've been thinking about diving into the JoJo anime (seen the first three episodes, I think, am still undecided), and I wanted to ask some stuff. From what I know about the series, it seems to be very action-oriented--as in, most of the fun comes from the battles, from seeing all the cool powers the characters have, and from seeing those powers interact with each other in unexpected and creative ways. I can understand the appeal of series like that, but honestly, it's not for me; I need a bit more character and/or thematic focus. And from what very little I've seen, none of the characters have really grabbed me (Dio is great at being evil, but that's kind of all he's got so far). The other things I hear a lot about are the general over-the-top fabulousness and pervasive homoeroticism, which sound great in theory, but either I haven't really gotten to that yet, or it's just not doing it for me in practice.

As fans, can you tell me, is my perception so far accurate? Or do I need to get further in to reach what makes the series good? I hope it's the latter, since I do want to like the show (though that may have a lot to do with wanting context for the OC Stand I already went ahead and made up for myself ).

[LaZodiac]

The show does actually have some really good characterization and characters, it just takes awhile to build up. Part 1, aka Phantom Blood, is actually fairly weak. The best part of it is Dio and Baron Zeppeli. It really kind of starts as mostly a clone of Fist of the North Star but once it starts developing into it's own thing it gets WAY into it.

The most important part to realize for the future is that the high action fighting is usually the REWARD, most of the time. This series is full of puzzle fights where the brutal beat downs are what you get for solving the puzzle.

Truth be told the flamboyentness is limited to Part 2, Battle Tendancies, which is most of Season 1 (after Phantom Blood ends).

[Fri]

As mentioned, Part 1 is boring since it's pretty much fist of the north star clone, and the author haven't got his groove yet.

Part 2 is really good. Might be my favourite main character of a battle series ever.

Also, of course what you'd heard from cultural osmosis would be the the series' and character's stereotype and memes, since well, that's what cultural osmosis is, so I'm not blaming you.

Honestly, if you're thinking that way, just jump to part 2, you'd only miss a bit of the backstory of the saga, but it's not actually that important, and if you think you'd like to know the backstory of the whole thing you could watch part 1.

Part 3 is honestly pretty boring again, or to be more proper, way too long. It don't need 2 cour, and honestly could cut lots of filler fights. Except the last few episodes, which is really good. Also MC is really bland.

Part 4 is fun again, with amusing main character (though still less amusing than part 2) and it's basically a persona game. Seriously, they even have town map music, that you'd really expect to hear when you travel in town map.

Just listen to this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdahP278OSM

[Flickerdart]

Honestly, if you're thinking that way, just jump to part 2, you'd only miss a bit of the backstory of the saga, but it's not actually that important, and if you think you'd like to know the backstory of the whole thing you could watch part 1.

Let's see, Part 1 gives us:

• The Ripple/Hamon (which doesn't even matter that much in Season 2, and not at all in Season 3)
• Dio's origins (which I think are covered in flashbacks every once in a while)
• The origins of the Speedwagon Foundation (which plays a relatively minor role)
• You were expecting a fourth point, but it was actually me, Dio!

[LaZodiac]

Part 3 is honestly pretty boring again, or to be more proper, way too long. It don't need 2 cour, and honestly could cut lots of filler fights. Except the last few episodes, which is really good. Also MC is really bland.

Part 4 is fun again, with amusing main character (though still less amusing than part 2) and it's basically a persona game. Seriously, they even have town map music, that you'd really expect to hear when you travel in town map.

Just listen to this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdahP278OSM

I'd call that subjective. I think Jotaro is quite a cool character, and while I do agree some of the filler fights could of been cut, it helps develop the world and the cast a little. It's an adventure series, lets have some fun adventures on our way to punch a vampire in the soul.

**** that music is fantastic aaaaagh I can't wait for Part 5 though it's music is going to likely have a kind of italian japanese rock flair to it and I cannot wait aaaaaaaaaaah.

[Amaril]

Wait, so the Ripple isn't relevant in Battle Tendency? Then what do they use to fight the Pillar Men?

Nah, don't tell me. Thanks, guys, you've been helpful. Because I'm stubborn about starting stories at the beginning, I'll suffer through Phantom Blood for the sake of Battle Tendency, and at least check out the rest (the Persona comparison is definitely a good sign, but then, I've always found Persona 4 pretty meh compared to 3).

[LaZodiac]

Wait, so the Ripple isn't relevant in Battle Tendency? Then what do they use to fight the Pillar Men?

Nah, don't tell me. Thanks, guys, you've been helpful. Because I'm stubborn about starting stories at the beginning, I'll suffer through Phantom Blood for the sake of Battle Tendency, and at least check out the rest (the Persona comparison is definitely a good sign, but then, I've always found Persona 4 pretty meh compared to 3).

Season 1 is Phantom Blood and Battle Tendancies. Season 2 and 3 are both Stardust Crusaders. Season 4 is going to be all of Diamond is Unbreakable. Sorry, we've been using the manga part names instead of dividing it into seasons.

[Amaril]

Right, derp, I totally knew that

Oh, hey, to actually talk about something from the show that I've seen...

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Am I the only one who finds something weird about that whole sequence with Dio getting Erina to break up with JoJo? Like, the way it's written, it's clearly supposed to suggest rape, but they pull back on it. Were they not allowed to do it for real for rating reasons, even off-panel? Or am I actually just reading too much into it?

[Fri]

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Well at that time period, I guess a forced kiss is already quite a honor steal. Also, in lots of asian movie I watch as a kid (well, bollywood) from the 80s, they always use kiss as metaphor for sex. Really, like if a villain is supposedly a raping evil bastard, they'd have a scene where they'd forcibly kiss the main character's sister (and implied more, but it's always only shown they're forcibly kissing), and the main character's sister would commit suicide, and the main character would do a roaring rampage of revenge. It actually honestly affected my view on sex as a young kid (basically I thought kissing is the act of sex).

[Amaril]

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Well at that time period, I guess a forced kiss is already quite a honor steal. Also, in lots of asian movie I watch as a kid (well, bollywood) from the 80s, they always use kiss as metaphor for sex. Really, like if a villain is supposedly a raping evil bastard, they'd have a scene where they'd forcibly kiss the main character's sister (and implied more, but it's always only shown they're forcibly kissing), and the main character's sister would commit suicide, and the main character would do a roaring rampage of revenge. It actually honestly affected my view on sex as a young kid (basically I thought kissing is the act of sex).

Ah, well, if that used to be a common device, I guess it was probably invoked on purpose for that reason. Nothing I've ever heard about the period makes me think it's accurate to real history, anyway.

[Flickerdart]

Season 1 is Phantom Blood and Battle Tendancies. Season 2 and 3 are both Stardust Crusaders. Season 4 is going to be all of Diamond is Unbreakable. Sorry, we've been using the manga part names instead of dividing it into seasons.

I was referring to Season 1 as Phantom Blood, Season 2 as Battle Tendency, as Season 3 as Stardust Crusaders.

Wait, so the Ripple isn't relevant in Battle Tendency? Then what do they use to fight the Pillar Men?

A bunch of nonsense.

[Yael]

Hey all! So I've been thinking about diving into the JoJo anime (seen the first three episodes, I think, am still undecided), and I wanted to ask some stuff. From what I know about the series, it seems to be very action-oriented--as in, most of the fun comes from the battles, from seeing all the cool powers the characters have, and from seeing those powers interact with each other in unexpected and creative ways. I can understand the appeal of series like that, but honestly, it's not for me; I need a bit more character and/or thematic focus. And from what very little I've seen, none of the characters have really grabbed me (Dio is great at being evil, but that's kind of all he's got so far). The other things I hear a lot about are the general over-the-top fabulousness and pervasive homoeroticism, which sound great in theory, but either I haven't really gotten to that yet, or it's just not doing it for me in practice.

As fans, can you tell me, is my perception so far accurate? Or do I need to get further in to reach what makes the series good? I hope it's the latter, since I do want to like the show (though that may have a lot to do with wanting context for the OC Stand I already went ahead and made up for myself ).

The true aura of JoJo's is that you start liking every character, even those who have no direct relevance towards the plot. Any character will become likable from part to part. Part I isn't that necesary for watching parts 2 onwards (as a good shonen, flashbacks and excess of speech covers the holes), and it is the less action-packed one of the bunch, but it sure gives a feeling of completioness when at further parts you get to know what and why things are happening (even by part 4, 5, and 6).

Jojo's have amazing fights, and as already posted, most of them are tactical battles that are more affected by strategy and usage of bizarre abilities than raw DBZ powers and who's the strongest.

Also, posing. Lots of posing. Fabulous posing.

[*]You were expecting a fourth point, but it was actually me, Dio![/LIST]

Do you remember how many memes have you posted in your life?
I actually laughed more than I should at this, I was really not expecting it.

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Well at that time period, I guess a forced kiss is already quite a honor steal. Also, in lots of asian movie I watch as a kid (well, bollywood) from the 80s, they always use kiss as metaphor for sex. Really, like if a villain is supposedly a raping evil bastard, they'd have a scene where they'd forcibly kiss the main character's sister (and implied more, but it's always only shown they're forcibly kissing), and the main character's sister would commit suicide, and the main character would do a roaring rampage of revenge. It actually honestly affected my view on sex as a young kid (basically I thought kissing is the act of sex).

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This.
It doesn't need to be actual rape (or it needs to happen), the whole kiss thing was for stealing what Jonathan would have considered a kind of happiness, and somehow hurting Erina would directly affect Jonathan (as it happened). At any way, you're correct at the honor steal thingy, and that's probably why Araki drew a kiss and not a forced intrusion.

[VariSami]

On the topic of Fri's Stand Generator... I feel dirty (see spoiler for details). However, the last sentence either ruins the innuendo or makes it so much worse. Still undecided.

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Your Stand is called Lovers Rubber. Its power is that you are able to shoot kitty knight. It also is armored. The weakness is that it is dependent on your target's hearing.

[Fri]

I'd call that subjective. I think Jotaro is quite a cool character

I'd easily concede that jotaro is a badass, might be the badest JoJo so far, or at least have the best ora ora and objection!music from all jojo. But also bland.

Talking about that, look at what I made.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOc85PVfVBY

It should loop, though not perfectly, it need about half second or quarter second trim for that, but that's the best I could do with my limited tools at 2 AM.

Also I realized this is perfect for alarm tone, and in fact I'm using it now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUhVCoTsBaM

[LaZodiac]

Right, derp, I totally knew that

Oh, hey, to actually talk about something from the show that I've seen...

Spoiler: Spoilered despite being in episode one.

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Am I the only one who finds something weird about that whole sequence with Dio getting Erina to break up with JoJo? Like, the way it's written, it's clearly supposed to suggest rape, but they pull back on it. Were they not allowed to do it for real for rating reasons, even off-panel? Or am I actually just reading too much into it?

I'd easily concede that jotaro is a badass, might be the badest JoJo so far, or at least have the best ora ora and objection!music from all jojo. But also bland.

Talking about that, look at what I made.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOc85PVfVBY

It should loop, though not perfectly, it need about half second or quarter second trim for that, but that's the best I could do with my limited tools at 2 AM.

Also I realized this is perfect for alarm tone, and in fact I'm using it now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUhVCoTsBaM

I feel he's not THAT bland, he just is a really inwardly emotional guy. Remember, the Stand is a reflection of the soul. Star Platinum is always screaming.

Jotaro's just really calm on the outside because when all is said and done he's (in Stardust anyways) a teenager doing some pretty ****ed up **** and trying to keep things cool. Dude just wants to look at fish.

[Fri]

And talking about JoJo Objection!Music, whose is your favourite? For reference.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqtJqKgemw4 Jonathan's
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TOQgFRfdSw Joseph's
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFjE5A4UAJI Jotaro's
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRGrfurZaNQ Josuke's

I shown them to (small number) of friends, and most agree that Jotaro's really the best. My ranking are Jotaro-Josuke-Joseph, and Jonathan's position depends on my mood on how it's a more classic anime and different than the others'.

Dude just wants to look at fish.

Ha, this cracks me up. It also cracks me up that Jotaro's bling in DiU are dolphins.