Jojo's Bizarre Adventure; Part I: We're Lacking Poses!

[Dr_Dinosaur]

Re: the new op, they're clearly setting up for an End of The World style alternate version in a few episodes that I won't spoil for the anime-only people here. Suffice to say it'll blow you away.

[Flickerdart]

Re: the new op, they're clearly setting up for an End of The World style alternate version in a few episodes that I won't spoil for the anime-only people here. Suffice to say it'll blow you away.

How do we go from "teenagers investigate a murderer" to the end of the world?

[NecroDancer]

How do we go from "teenagers investigate a murderer" to the end of the world?

It's an adventure, some might call it a "bizarre" adventure

[The Troubadour]

Not only does the trend of drawing overly muscular men* disappears starting with Part 4 (you can already see it in how Jotaro looks now compared to how he did in Part 3), but when Araki redraws the earlier JoJos, he tends to draw them in a much slimmer build.

* There will be some women who are quite muscular, but not to "Fist of the North Star" levels. Plus, it feels natural, considering the story.

Even perStands [...]

It's the other way around. :-)

Also you know my opinion that Stardust Crusader is actually pretty boring and someone earlier got put off by it [...]

Obviously, this is very subjective, but I think the reason Part 3 might be considered boring is because it's much more of a standard shounen fighting series than any other Part, even 1 and 2 - it's basically a series of fights with bad guys who, for the most part, don't have any personal connection to the protagonists or the plot, all leading up to the confrontation with the "final boss".*

Personally, I give it a pass on that front for two reasons: the first is that I grew up on that kind of anime, so it hits me on the nostalgia level, and the second is that it's a product of its time.

* Which is a formula even the other Parts use - we can see it even now in Part 4 -, but they usually put their own spin on at least a few things.

[LaZodiac]

How do we go from "teenagers investigate a murderer" to the end of the world?

I don't know, ask the gang in Inaba-cho. I'm sure they'd love to talk about murders.

[Dr_Dinosaur]

How do we go from "teenagers investigate a murderer" to the end of the world?

Poor phrasing on my part. The last Stardust Crusaders opening was called End of the World, and had a similar ending to Stand Proud except that DIO stops time.

[LaZodiac]

New episode!

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THERE'S NO WAY! I HAVE TO DRIVE THROUGH! BUT...CRAZY DIAMOND! ORA *destroys motorcycle, flips over lady with her baby carriage* NOW! FIX! *motorcycle reforms and continues driving without losing a bit of speed*

OPENING SEQUENCE DROP.

I love this show so much. And of course we end with the line that was referred to earlier in the thread. "You're right...it wouldn't be fair if I beat up a crippled man. That's why I already healed you. Now...now it's fair!"

[Yael]

Ow, yeah. We're having some cat next episode! *hype from a cat lover*

[LaZodiac]

Ow, yeah. We're having some cat next episode! *hype from a cat lover*

...ooh. Oh boy. This is gonna be a thing.

But yeah jeez. "That Cat Loves Yoshikagi Kira" is a damn good episode, and I'm excited to see how it'll look on ye old TV screen.

[NecroDancer]

Speaking of cats I am currently fending off a 4 month old kitten who is determined to climb my bare leg. Button please stop, my flesh isn't an appropriate place to put your claws.

[LaZodiac]

Speaking of cats I am currently fending off a 4 month old kitten who is determined to climb my bare leg. Button please stop, my flesh isn't an appropriate place to put your claws.

The solution to this is simple. Just hollow out your chest and put in a baby carriage carrying cage thing.

[gooddragon1]

The solution to this is simple. Just hollow out your chest and put in a baby carriage carrying cage thing.

Or just pet kitty whenever you see kitty heading for your leg*. I said it before (on the cat pet thread) and I say it again: Only thing kitty is guilty of is wanting to be petted.

*Then kitty will develop a method of letting you know when petting is needed. This will allow kitty to be petted when needed and that's what's really important here.

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Why couldn't Za Hando just have been used against the picture room anyways against where the ghost was? Sure it's an alternate dimension, but he's still there. I'm curious to see what would have happened. And why couldn't he just have Za Hando'd him out of the frame once they had him trapped?

[LaZodiac]

Or just pet kitty whenever you see kitty heading for your leg*. I said it before (on the cat pet thread and I say it again: Only think kitty is guilty of is wanting to be petted.

*Then kitty will develop a method of letting you know when petting is needed. This will allow kitty to be petted when needed and that's what's really important here.

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Why couldn't Za Hando just have been used against the picture room anyways against where the ghost was? Sure it's an alternate dimension, but he's still there. I'm curious to see what would have happened. And why couldn't he just have Za Hando'd him out of the frame once they had him trapped?

My understanding is that The Hand is that it "erases space". But Atom Heart Father "creates space" through the photo. IT takes a picture of a place, and that room becomes "set" and nothing can change within it without his direct input on the photo. Though, as we saw if I recall, Okuyasu using The Hand on the PHOTO changed the photo. So it's less a matter of The Hand not working, and more that he aimed at the wrong thing. I might be thinking of later, or just conjecturing.

Also Pyjama Dad could just...go back into the photo once removed. Remember he's literally a Ghost that has a stand, not a human living in a photo.

Oh, also also, and this is important. If the question "why didn't Okuyasu use The Hand to do X" it's almost invariably because in character Okuyasu is either too unmotivated or too stupid to realize he can do it. A stand user sort of gets a "Feel" for how their stand works as they use it, but just because they know how to use it on an instinctual base level doesn't mean they're SMART.

[LaZodiac]

OH MAN JOJO.

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Hey everybody look it's Stray Cat, Kira's natural counter. The power to control air. Shame about BEING A CAT THOUGH. CAT'S LOVE YOSHIKAGE KIRA!

In a string of good episodes this one stands out for, once again, making the main villain our protagonist and making it WORK. Hayato finally finds out about his father, and we're shoved back into the reality of just how villainous Kira is.

Next time, on Jojo...I don't ACTUALLY remember ****. I know what happens next in the manga, but the chapter title is different from what I expected. Hmm...

[NecroDancer]

Next time is my favorite stand........



SUPERFLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[LaZodiac]

So, I was curious as to what episode would be next. Are they skipping any, why is the title different from the manga? Well, I got the answer now.

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They're doing "Let's Live On A Transmission Tower" "Enigma Boy" "My Dad Is Not My Dad" and "Cheap Trick" ALL AT ONCE! This is pretty clever, and will leave us a good amount of time left for AOBTD.

[Yael]

So, I was curious as to what episode would be next. Are they skipping any, why is the title different from the manga? Well, I got the answer now.

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They're doing "Let's Live On A Transmission Tower" "Enigma Boy" "My Dad Is Not My Dad" and "Cheap Trick" ALL AT ONCE! This is pretty clever, and will leave us a good amount of time left for AOBTD.

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Those events happen kinda close to each other (except for Enigma Boy and KQBTD)

[LaZodiac]

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Those events happen kinda close to each other (except for Enigma Boy and KQBTD)

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I actually looked it up to remember and timeline wise practically all four of those arcs I mentioned happen "at the same general time".

[Prime32]

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"Tower of Gray" from Part 3 was a super-powerful fly. "Superfly" is a gray tower.

[Anonymouswizard]

So I've finally reached Egypt, why does this part drag on so long? It's the first time I've been both highly entertained and bored, as it always seems to be along the line of 'Trainer DIO sent out Stand User, go Jotaro/whoever's fighting this week'.

If I wanted to feel like I was watching filler I'd start watching Bleach again.

On the other hand, I've worked out my two favourite characters for this Part, who are Joseph (again) and Avdol. The mixture of the glorious ham with being the two most experienced and in some ways competent people in the group makes them much more entertaining than Jotaro.

[shadow_archmagi]

I think almost everyone ends up liking Jotaro's comrades more than they like him.

[Yael]

I think almost everyone ends up liking Jotaro's comrades more than they like him.

Man, Polnareff is just like my reason to continue watching Stardust Crusaders.

[Anonymouswizard]

I think almost everyone ends up liking Jotaro's comrades more than they like him.

Well of course, Jotaro suffers from being the straight man, but unlike Roy he doesn't get many opportunities for sarcastic quips (and the rare times I've really liked Jotaro are when it feels like he's being sarcastic).

It also feels like the potential for Stands is underused. Maybe it gets better in later parts, but how about a Stand that looks like a robot, where each limb (inc. head and torso) can turn into a separate robot. The crazier Stands have generally been the better ones, and seem to be becoming more common (man the fight on the submarine was tense). This water stand seems cool, and all will be forgiven if there's eventually a stand that shoots bombs made out of ice cream but only while the user is riding a bicycle, or something even more outlandish.

[LaZodiac]

Well of course, Jotaro suffers from being the straight man, but unlike Roy he doesn't get many opportunities for sarcastic quips (and the rare times I've really liked Jotaro are when it feels like he's being sarcastic).

It also feels like the potential for Stands is underused. Maybe it gets better in later parts, but how about a Stand that looks like a robot, where each limb (inc. head and torso) can turn into a separate robot. The crazier Stands have generally been the better ones, and seem to be becoming more common (man the fight on the submarine was tense). This water stand seems cool, and all will be forgiven if there's eventually a stand that shoots bombs made out of ice cream but only while the user is riding a bicycle, or something even more outlandish.

I'm not gonna spoil things but I will say, Stardust Crusaders was 100% Araki feeling things out. It gets better. More stands come by and they're far more elaborate and weird.

Again, not gonna spoil anything, but what you've described could almost be a stand. God bless White Album.

[Yael]

I'm not gonna spoil things but I will say, Stardust Crusaders was 100% Araki feeling things out. It gets better. More stands come by and they're far more elaborate and weird.

Again, not gonna spoil anything, but what you've described could almost be a stand. God bless White Album.

Heh, White Album? Wait 'till the Disney References with Bohemian Rhapsody

[The Troubadour]

As straightforward a concept as it is, Silver Chariot is still one of my favourite Stands in the series. Of course, that's greatly helped by the fact that Polnareff only loses out to Joseph as my favourite Part 3 character.

[Fri]

Me and my friends always say that Polnareff is that guy who make a character built around critical damage and sneak attacks, only to find out that the whole campaign is about constructs and undeads.

[LaZodiac]

Me and my friends always say that Polnareff is that guy who make a character built around critical damage and sneak attacks, only to find out that the whole campaign is about constructs and undeads.

And in the end he makes it work, too. Doesn't matter if he only really had two real good hits in, those hits mattered.

Jean Pierre Polnareff, the greatest frenchmen to ever live.

[Gastronomie]

The story of Stardust Crusaders seems boring because before it, there was absolutely nothing Araki could use as a guideline. It's the very first manga that's about "actually semi-intellectual superpower fighting". Araki had to fiddle his fingers about in the darkness for some time before he got a good grasp of how to create them right.

You'll definitely realize that the abilities of the protagonists in Part 4 and 5 are much more tricky and versatile, as well as fun to watch. And if you liked Joseph, chances are you'll like Josuke too, because the two are very similar to each other.

[LaZodiac]

The story of Stardust Crusaders seems boring because before it, there was absolutely nothing Araki could use as a guideline. It's the very first manga that's about "actually semi-intellectual superpower fighting". Araki had to fiddle his fingers about in the darkness for some time before he got a good grasp of how to create them right.

You'll definitely realize that the abilities of the protagonists in Part 4 and 5 are much more tricky and versatile, as well as fun to watch. And if you liked Joseph, chances are you'll like Josuke too, because the two are very similar to each other.

This is also very true. Jojo is one of those series where the cliches you see in it are cliches because it exists in the first place.

How man series had a villain go "I, NAME HERE" as a way of talking about themselves before this series, and notedly how many had so AFTER we got "I, DIO!"