Why are so many groups against token evil team mates?

[goto124]

When was the last time people here played Bluff? Or any other card game where the whole point is to cheat and deceive other players, even those you're nominally allied with?

Again, it's part of the expectations of the game that betrayal will happen, much like how you would expect backstabbing in a game of Paranoia. DnD and many other games built on the assumption of cooperation and no-betrayal, not so much.

[CharonsHelper]

Frankly, the more I read, the more this screams SSS. (Special Snowflake Syndrome.)

[ImNotTrevor]

Again, it's part of the expectations of the game that betrayal will happen, much like how you would expect backstabbing in a game of Paranoia. DnD and many other games built on the assumption of cooperation and no-betrayal, not so much.

Like I said before, this may vary by group. But as in all games that can be played in a variety of ways, it is a really good idea to make sure everyone is on the same page.

Tbh, it sounds to me like OP is not on the same page as the rest of his group and rather than getting onto THAT page, is trying to find ways to convince them to hastily staple his page to theirs. (Not a good call, imo.) Or to cover his rear when things go south.

[Segev]

Frankly, the more I read, the more this screams SSS. (Special Snowflake Syndrome.)

Eh, it can manifest that way, but there really isn't all that much correlation.

[Cluedrew]

Here's the thing: I play regularly with people completely new to the hobby, and spontaneous backstabbing for minor gains is more common than any form of co-operation. And it tends to end in roaring laughter, not broken friendships.

Than you are probably in a group where you make it work. They do exist. I'm not saying they don't (I don't think anyone is). What I am saying is that groups where this will not work do exist and MonkeySage should make sure he isn't playing in one of those before rolling out this character.

I'm just a little worried that he isn't taking that possibility seriously. Rather he just seems to insist that there is no really reason it wouldn't work. There really are, but maybe the reason for the insistence is that none of those reasons apply to his group. In which case it should be fine. But if they do apply then this could end badly.

[Tiktakkat]

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[2D8HP]

Um, because their afraid of this?

Player: My PC hits Bob's PC over the back of the head with a chair!

DM: Why would Laszlo Erudite, professor of Near eastern languages do that?

Player: He stole my Vorpol sword!

DM: Those were your D&D PC's, this is Call of Cthullu!

Player: Don't you railroad me!

[Temperjoke]

Um, because their afraid of this?

Player: My PC hits Bob's PC over the back of the head with a chair!

DM: Why would Laszlo Erudite, professor of Near eastern languages do that?

Player: He stole my Vorpol sword!

DM: Those were your D&D PC's, this is Call of Cthullu!

Player: Don't you railroad me!

In fairness, inter-planar silliness is not out of place in Call of Cthullu.

[RickAllison]

Um, because their afraid of this?

Player: My PC hits Bob's PC over the back of the head with a chair!

DM: Why would Laszlo Erudite, professor of Near eastern languages do that?

Player: He stole my Vorpol sword!

DM: Those were your D&D PC's, this is Call of Cthullu!

Player: Don't you railroad me!

[sarcasm]
Obviously his PC was driven insane by an Old One, and the events of the D&D game are his perception within CoC!
[/sarcasm]

[Enixon]

Don't insult every playstyle that isn't yours.Don't insult people for being different.

Just playing devil's advocate here, but where was this while Monkeysage was the one being insulted for his playstyle?

[yawndareray]

Just from my own DM experience, it's often hard to reconcile an evil character's motivations/desires with that of the larger good-aligned party. It might just be that I've had some especially uncooperative players, though.

[The Insanity]

I play with my friends, so it was never a problem that couldn't be resolved to everyones satisfaction.

[ImNotTrevor]

{{Scrubbed}}

[Arbane]

Well, I think the original question has been answered quite thoroughly at this point.

[Tiktakkat]

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[LibraryOgre]

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