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    Quote Originally Posted by Chromascope3D View Post
    After 3 years we finally get a title drop. And even in context I still can't figure out what it means. :P
    We had a title drop back before the nevergreen got Silver'd, when Duane was reading the book of Ssael.

    As for its meaning, context leans me towards its nautical usage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NEO|Phyte View Post
    We had a title drop back before the nevergreen got Silver'd, when Duane was reading the book of Ssael.
    Yet I really can't blame any readers or prostitutes for not remembering that one. (I didn't.)

    Quote Originally Posted by NEO|Phyte View Post
    As for its meaning, context leans me towards its nautical usage.
    I'm leaning toward it being metaphorical, though. Didn't Duane or someone talk about sounding the Kert? If the Kert is believed to be what separates man from the gods, perhaps it refers to the Kert?

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    Quote Originally Posted by eschmenk View Post
    I'm leaning toward it being metaphorical, though. Didn't Duane or someone talk about sounding the Kert? If the Kert is believed to be what separates man from the gods, perhaps it refers to the Kert?
    I think this is surely the case; the 'great unsounded' directly parallels the 'undiscovered country'. The khert is what claims people after death. Death is the gods' crime, and Ssael intends to spite them. (Interesting that both Gefendur and Ssaelit use the term.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by eschmenk View Post
    Yet I really can't blame any readers or prostitutes for not remembering that one. (I didn't.)
    Especially since these hookers were brutally murdered the next day by a demon of suffering and insanity and their souls and memories dissolved in the khert. That was distracting for all of us.
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    New comic.

    In which we meet Lady Toma and Chea Toma.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NEO|Phyte View Post

    As for its meaning, context leans me towards its nautical usage.
    This is totally it. It refers to the deepest unknown depths of the khert where a soul may fall through the latticing of the world and find the Gods.

    I think Ashley was inspired by that term due to her love of Herman Melville.

    Also, what in the world is on Lady Toma's head?

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    The hairdos of Crescian aristocracy get really weird. But this... looks like one of those lizards Kasalynians keep like we keep cats. So, extra weird.

    Poor Chea. The Toma house looks awfully empty in those few panels.

    Also, the Queen is on really thin ice with some people. If the plot against her goes into the open, she might find herself with little popular support.
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    New comic

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    I wonder if this run-in with a plod-creating Black Tongue had anything to do with Duane's eventual fate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morty View Post
    I wonder if this run-in with a plod-creating Black Tongue had anything to do with Duane's eventual fate.
    I'm more convinced it had to do with Bodie, than BT. They aren't strong enough. But time will tell.
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    I didn't mean in the immediate sense. But here Duane fights a Black Tongue who created plods. A year later (according to Ashley's tumblr), another Black Tongue turns him into a unique (as far as we know), self-aware plod. That doesn't look like pure coincidence. Even if we still don't know who hired Winalils do to it.
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    Is it just me, or does the comic title get dropped more frequently nowadays? Usually in context of "sounding the unsounded".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morty View Post
    Is it just me, or does the comic title get dropped more frequently nowadays? Usually in context of "sounding the unsounded".
    It's getting less unsounded :P

    Not sure why, maybe people complain they don't know what it means.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morty View Post
    Is it just me, or does the comic title get dropped more frequently nowadays? Usually in context of "sounding the unsounded".
    Maybe?
    Isn't it some quote from one of the in-universe philosophies/religions regarding the Khert?
    Quite possible the creepy, soul-digesting, dreamscape space gets (more) important in the near future.

    I'm more concerned about Duane turning more... present-Duane-ish.
    Khert-dream stuff? Or something the Lady-bird worshipper is doing to accomplish whatever Lady-bird worshippers want to accomplish by casting weird „you in five years” spells?
    (I guess the former. Those tentacle-vines look rather kherty.)
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    Pretty sure it's a dream sequence turning ugly.

    As for as "the Great Unsounded" goes - it's what people call the khert. "Sound the Great Unsounded" is a quote from the Ssaelit scripture.
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    Okay, maybe this part didn't actually happen. But the rest was spot on!
    I take that seriously. I think Duane's dreams start off historically accurate and then diverge from what really happened. This and the previous one diverged even more until Duane completely escaped from it.

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    I wonder what Lady Tittybird will try to teach Duane this time around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morty View Post
    I wonder what Lady Tittybird will try to teach Duane this time around.
    Not that it's that good of an answer, but her specific promise to Duane was that together they would find meaning this time.

    I wonder if she has a plan or if she is just reacting to things. I don't think she has all that much power and I'm not sure how much knowledge she has. She apparently realizes that she can't pound information into Duane's thick skull, so it would make some sense that she would manipulate him to learn the things she would want him to know, but I'm not sure she is being all that manipulative. She seems to be a fairly passive guide, as far as I can tell.

    TLDR: I don't know if she has anything specific to try to teach him or not.

    Of course, she will continue to point out that Ssael and the other gods didn't really exist--not as gods, at least--but I don't think she expects Duane to accept that anytime soon. I wouldn't be surprised if we learn more about the black tongues, though.

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    I feel like she does have a specific goal in mind. She's stuck in the khert, but she was able to direct the Black Tongues, until recently (whether she can't or won't now is a good question). That said, she's probably not the only one with a plan in this finely unfolding mess.
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    New page. Lovely visuals. What exactly is it that Duane finds so ugly about the Crescian philosophy? Like specifically what Duane objects to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jallorn View Post
    New page. Lovely visuals. What exactly is it that Duane finds so ugly about the Crescian philosophy? Like specifically what Duane objects to.
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    Cannibalism.
    Wait, that's a thing they do?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jallorn View Post
    Wait, that's a thing they do?
    Yup. Crescian or Gefendur priests keep pairs of identical twins in special isolated covenants. For major celebrations, they take a pair, get them drugged, then slice one's throat and drink and eat magical drugged flesh and blood.
    As seen here:
    http://www.casualvillain.com/Unsound...7/ch07_33.html

    Also, keep in mind Alderode has heavy propaganda against Cresce. One had planned economy, other is cast based, gender roled society.
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    Duane mentioned philosophy, not religion. So he's probably talking about the Crescian ideal of the state providing for all, as long as they do their part. He ranted about it back in the Nevergeeen, and almost started a fight.

    So, Lady Tittybird is really a senet beast. Unless she's lying, but I don't think she is. The part that gets me curious is growing humans and lizardfolk "from the teeming seas". Khert doesn't reach the sea, and the Ssaelit consider it impure. I don't think this is a coincidence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morty View Post
    Duane mentioned philosophy, not religion. So he's probably talking about the Crescian ideal of the state providing for all, as long as they do their part. He ranted about it back in the Nevergeeen, and almost started a fight.
    You mean Jallorn? I thought he meant what Duane has against Gefendur. I mix those two a lot.

    Cresce believes in GREATER GOOD and equality, but you are somewhat limited in your personal choices. Queen wants to turn your flower garden into a barrack, tough luck. Cresce is more free about gender roles.
    Alderode is more individual, but you are limited by your caste and gender. Want to be a female wright. Go back to the kitchen.

    Quote Originally Posted by Morty View Post
    So, Lady Tittybird is really a senet beast. Unless she's lying, but I don't think she is. The part that gets me curious is growing humans and lizardfolk "from the teeming seas". Khert doesn't reach the sea, and the Ssaelit consider it impure. I don't think this is a coincidence.
    Could be, or it could just be coincidence and the seas she meant are just some biomass large as a sea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morty View Post
    Duane mentioned philosophy, not religion. So he's probably talking about the Crescian ideal of the state providing for all, as long as they do their part. He ranted about it back in the Nevergeeen, and almost started a fight.
    Yes, I think it was specifically that. Duane even blamed the philosophy for Hetr's ruthlessness, so he probably blames it for a lot of Crecian acts.

    Quote Originally Posted by Morty View Post
    So, Lady Tittybird is really a senet beast. Unless she's lying, but I don't think she is. The part that gets me curious is growing humans and lizardfolk "from the teeming seas". Khert doesn't reach the sea, and the Ssaelit consider it impure. I don't think this is a coincidence.
    I don't think she's lying either. It somewhat gives more credence to the idea that the twin gods really existed, although only somewhat since even she needs to rely on the stories rather than actual memories.

    Perhaps the humans and lizards and other finite beings (normal animals and plants) weren't supposed to have any access to the kert? Humans didn't have any access to pymary until the Tains somehow figured it out and humans don't think the lizards have any access to it, even though Delicieu obviously does.
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    Lady Ilganyag hitting on Duanne never gets old.

    And I think we have heard the bit about the Blacktongues being/ having been philanthopists before.
    But I have to wonder: did their Lady leave them because that changed or the other way around.
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    And I think we have heard the bit about the Blacktongues being/ having been philanthopists before.
    But I have to wonder: did their Lady leave them because that changed or the other way around.
    I doubt it's that simple, but otherwise that's a good question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eschmenk View Post
    I doubt it's that simple, but otherwise that's a good question.
    Well, the answer could always be "Yes".
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    Well, the answer could always be "Yes".
    ...or, "No."

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