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    Lady Ilganyag hitting on Duanne never gets old.

    And I think we have heard the bit about the Blacktongues being/ having been philanthopists before.
    But I have to wonder: did their Lady leave them because that changed or the other way around.
    I suspect, that:

    A) Lady isn't as philantropic as she makes herself to be
    1. Lizard said "The old god will take care of him". Now, lizard could be lying. But, there is always a bit of doubt about Winalis' affiliations.
    2. She is working on "freeing" Murkoph. Murkoph is a person who literally eats babies.

    B) Blacktongues are working towards becoming some kind of independent nation or organization, within one of the nations -OR- They realize Lady is somewhat deceiving them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -D- View Post
    I suspect, that:

    A) Lady isn't as philantropic as she makes herself to be
    2. She is working on "freeing" Murkoph. Murkoph is a person who literally eats babies.
    Unless I really misread things, said babyeater is what she is trying to free the true Murkoph from.
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    New comics.

    Well Quigley, if I didn't know better I would say your son is angry at you about something.
    Some acts a idealistic person might consider wrong or villainous maybe?

    And it seems the lady bird is still trying to flirt with/seduce Duanne. In the (one of the) most disturbing way available.
    Also, that scene change looked creepy.
    Giant hands out of nowhere, one of them holding a Duanne sized Quigley doll.
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    Well, I'm glad that both pages were provided. I definitely would have been wondering what the first page meant and none of my ideas would have been even close.

    Assuming what Lady Ilganyag said is true (a big assumption), we also now know that the Great Unsounded isn't the khert--it's beyond the khert--and it's apparently the equivalent of heaven. Also, Ssael did in fact kill the Gefendur gods, if Lady Ilganyag was telling the truth. But she admits to not having been there, so maybe she doesn't know, either.

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    Well Quigley, if I didn't know better I would say your son is angry at you about something.
    Some acts a idealistic person might consider wrong or villainous maybe?
    I wouldn't say "angry." I think he's resigned. His father isn't a hero, so he'll find someone else to look up to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eschmenk View Post
    I wouldn't say "angry." I think he's resigned. His father isn't a hero, so he'll find someone else to look up to.
    Disappointed maybe?
    Either way, he didn't like what his father did and won't let him live it down to soon.

    The main reason I used „angry” is that it looked as if deliberately played in such a way his father would notice- and turned it up a notch after he reacted.
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    You think you could beat a little girl in a fight, Quigley? I must have been underestimating you! Well she is dangerous for her size but still quite funny that he went with that reply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ibrinar View Post
    You think you could beat a little girl in a fight, Quigley? I must have been underestimating you! Well she is dangerous for her size but still quite funny that he went with that reply.
    Well, the shot he made at Duane (behind his back) on the previous page was pretty funny, too. I'm not sure which person in that conversation is the more mature one.

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    Well, Quigley is doomed.

    He basically said "Eh I can take her".
    That's one of the worst things you can say ever.
    Right up there with gems like "What is the worst thing that could happen?" or "What could possibly go wrong?"
    You just don't say stuff like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kantaki View Post
    Well, Quigley is doomed.

    He basically said "Eh I can take her".
    That's one of the worst things you can say ever.
    Right up there with gems like "What is the worst thing that could happen?" or "What could possibly go wrong?"
    You just don't say stuff like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Campbell View Post
    At least Sette isn't Skitter.
    Small mercy.
    That only means he will know what hit him when he dies screaming.
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    Jivi's a good kid, but "all Alds are evil bastards, except for this one I know and like" isn't his proudest moment.
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    Well, Sette might not be Skitter, but she definitely knows how to pose.
    Lounging on a hand certainly helps, but she did look intimidating.
    Almost like a real crime lord lady.
    Well, that was the last comic. Today she's back to little streetrat with big ambitions.
    I would make a joke about wearing too large shoes, but...
    well, she's barefoot.

    And stealing something is working for it.
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    My hands hurt just looking at this guy.

    Also, "now is not the hour for petty told-you-so... but I totally did tell her so".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morty View Post
    My hands hurt just looking at this guy.

    Also, "now is not the hour for petty told-you-so... but I totally did tell her so".
    Apparently, Ashley thinks he isn't that bad. He wants to put an end to Alderode/Crescian war by using silver weapon to stop fighting.

    In essence he wants to sacrifice a few soldiers, to prevent future deaths, at expense of the Alds.
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    Previous comic
    Duane is in a rhyming mood it seems.
    And Sette speaks true.

    New comic
    Those hands... Hands shouldn't look that way.

    And his face isn't much better.
    Nor his mind for that matter.
    „Boom”

    But seriously, why does take Bell the Event Horizon* reject to visit Toma’s wife?
    That doesn't exactly say „friendly visit”

    *„Where we are going you won't need hands”
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    Quote Originally Posted by -D- View Post
    Apparently, Ashley thinks he isn't that bad. He wants to put an end to Alderode/Crescian war by using silver weapon to stop fighting.

    In essence he wants to sacrifice a few soldiers, to prevent future deaths, at expense of the Alds.
    I know he has his reasons for what he's doing. But the "I won't say 'I told you so' but I did tell her so" double-speak was amusing regardless of his plans, or reasons behind them. General Bell knows how to play this game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morty View Post
    I know he has his reasons for what he's doing. But the "I won't say 'I told you so' but I did tell her so" double-speak was amusing regardless of his plans, or reasons behind them. General Bell knows how to play this game.
    Yeah, I understood what you meant, anyway. In addition to what you pointed out, there was also his holier-than-thou general criticism of the "leeches" in the press--who he was using for his own purposes, anyway. Politics apparently worked pretty much the same back then as it does now.

    I'm wondering about the term "press" though. Do they actually use regular printing presses? Why would they be called that if they don't? I could imagine machines with huge numbers of pymaric pens churning out papers, but I guess not.
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    Duane's father was a printer, and we see people with pretty modern-looking newspapers. So it seems the printing press does exist in Kassalyne. But scribes like Duane still operate, in Shartreshane at least, for personal documentation and correspondence.
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    "Exhausting, I'm sure."

    *snerk*

    So what does General Bell want with Karl? What do they have to do with each other?

    Quote Originally Posted by Morty View Post
    Duane's father was a printer, and we see people with pretty modern-looking newspapers. So it seems the printing press does exist in Kassalyne. But scribes like Duane still operate, in Shartreshane at least, for personal documentation and correspondence.
    Yes, I remember Quigley reading one just before they got to Ethelmik. I guess some things still need to be mundane. There are a lot of people who still have to do things pretty much manually.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eschmenk View Post
    "Exhausting, I'm sure."

    *snerk*

    So what does General Bell want with Karl? What do they have to do with each other?
    I am beginning​ to like Bell. He has snark.

    Karl was the guy that got rid of corpse Bell core leeched, no?
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    He was, yes. That means he's pretty deeply involved in Bell's conspiracy.

    On a side-note, Alderode is probably a nastier place to live than Cresce, on the whole, but at least the Aldish have a sense of style. Good gods.
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    Quote Originally Posted by -D- View Post
    Karl was the guy that got rid of corpse Bell core leeched, no?
    Well, actually, it was Karl who did the core leeching to get rid of the corpse for Bell, but otherwise, yes. I didn't recognize him. BTW, Jack is wearing the hair decoration he took from the clerk's body on his hat now. I think that was supposed to be the confirming clue that they were the same person.

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    The General's expression in the last panel isn't one that belongs to an entirely stable person.

    I'm curious what he means about Alderode being "precarious". Just what has happened in the six years after Duane left? More friction between the Aldish and the Gefendur, most likely. And the Weeping Plague is still going.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morty View Post
    I'm curious what he means about Alderode being "precarious". Just what has happened in the six years after Duane left? More friction between the Aldish and the Gefendur, most likely. And the Weeping Plague is still going.
    I think you meant the Ssaelists and Gefendur? Yes, I assume that's it. The Ssaelists could be so desperate for help that they turned to General Bell. Winalils could be acting as a go-between. Or maybe he just talked Bell into it himself? There could be other Black Tongues involved as well.

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    D'oh, yes. I meant Ssaelit, of course. If the Weeping Plague is still going, they're very likely desperate by now. But would General Bell deal with them? He comes across as religiously-motivated. Unless he's being deceived or persuaded into it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morty View Post
    D'oh, yes. I meant Ssaelit, of course. If the Weeping Plague is still going, they're very likely desperate by now. But would General Bell deal with them? He comes across as religiously-motivated. Unless he's being deceived or persuaded into it.
    I don't know if Bell is particularly religious. Yes, he's mouthing the state religion (out of habit? because he's very traditional?), but I don't know how fanatic he is about eliminating other religions. It seems that he's dealing with Black Tongues and he wants to use the Black Tongue weapon, but the Black Tongues aren't Gefendurs, either. He might simply view the Aldish state as the greater of the two evils, compared to Ssaelism. He might not care what the Ssaelists do, as long as they do it on their side of the boarder. Alternatively, he might intend to use them to help destroy the Aldish sate, then double-cross them once the Aldish state is weakened enough by the civil war. Who knows?

    I think the way Bell said, "Forgive me," after murdering the clerk demonstrates that Bell is willing to do something that he considers to be evil, while rationalizing that he's preventing a greater evil. That could be how he would view dealing with the Ssaelists.

    As Ashley said in her Tumblr:
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    There’s a war on regardless. The General mostly disagrees with how the Queen is handling it, and believes he can do better by taking more extreme actions. In a sense, his heart’s in the right place. He cares deeply for his country’s armed forces, wants to end this incessant internecine warfare with Alderode, but it’s hard to root for him because he had no problem razing Ethelmik, no problem throwing Toma under the bus, no problem using kidnapped innocents to feed the Silver.

    But at the same time, soldiers are already dying every day. Do you save future lives by sacrificing lives today? Someone has to make these decisions. He feels qualified to do it.
    He might view dealing with Ssaelists as no more evil than the other stuff he's done. Also, as you pointed out regarding what he said to the press, he's perfectly willing to be a hypocrite. OTOH, it could be that Winalils isn't telling Bell that the Aldish rebels are Ssaelists. You would think that Bell would double-check what's going on via spys, though.

    One interesting thing: Ashley said that Bell had "no problem using kidnapped innocents to feed the Silver," but in today's update he acts as if Keon just recently told him that it was powered by the dead. Bell might not be being completely honest to Karl, even. I guess that's not really a surprise.

    One final addition (hopefully): Something else Ashley said made me look back at today's page and see something I hadn't noticed: Keon's spellcasting is making blood spurt from his hands. He's really getting into his casting.
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    Poor Chea. Her father's dead, and her mother's drunk. And her mother's new lover is now cheerfully planning treason inside their home. She looks really lonely in that last panel.

    So, Yerta spoke to Bell. Is he making it up, or did he really hear something? I'm presuming the latter, since he seems confident enough in Karl not to tell him tall tales. So who did speak to him? I'm not ruling out its really being Yerta, but something tells me it's someone or something we've yet to see.
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    Bell described the voice as "sibilant." I could easily imagine a lizard having a sibilant voice. The voice talked up Deliciou. Hmm.

    This does indicate that Bell is really religious; it's apparently not just an act.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morty View Post
    Poor Chea. Her father's dead, and her mother's drunk. And her mother's new lover is now cheerfully planning treason inside their home. She looks really lonely in that last panel.
    Not just that, he admits he is manipulating her for the title, and plans to off her mother as soon as he can.
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    Not just that, he admits he is manipulating her for the title, and plans to off her mother as soon as he can.
    Yeah, you would almost think they weren't nice guys. And Chea's mother isn't so hot, either.

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